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Indycar 1995 WatchParty Round 11: Molson Indy Toronto (Start 6pm BST Sunday)


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#1 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 00:01

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Welcome back to Indycar 1995 Land, the fantasy make-believe world at the crossroads of entertainment, memory, nostalgia and primary sources. This Sunday the CART folks head north for the second of the series’ three international, extra-United Statesian races for the tenth Indy Toronto at Exhibition Place. We briefly divert the river of time following round 10 of the series at Road America, when challenges from Newman-Haas and Penske evaporated following a third-lap collision between Michael Andretti and Al Unser, Jr, and the remainder of the competition dissolved to hand Jacques Villeneuve a third victory of the year. The F1-bound Canadian is on pole for this one, too, with his points rivals buried in row 3 and deeper. This being round 11 of 17, the metaphorical shadows are lengthening in the late afternoon of this Indycar championship and any alternative candidates for the 1995 PPG Cup had better put some results together sharpish. Or I dunno, the Team Green car could break down again like it did in Australia, Long Beach, Detroit and Portland and the points table could be thrown back into confusion. A lot could happen!
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The 1.8-mile Exhibition Place street circuit is still in use today (or it will be, eventually) and some fiddling with the last corner aside, it was more or less the same layout in 1995. The whole purpose and meaning of the circuit is Turn 3, the sort-of hairpin at the end of the long straight on Lake Shore Boulevard in which all overtaking and ambition succeeds or fails. Then there are some twiddly bits as the circuit makes its way back to the pits and a fast, sweeping, concrete-edged curve heading to the startline. Michael Andretti has won four of the last five races he’s entered here, with the 1993 race won by Penske and Paul Tracy while Michael Andretti was doing to F1 what he’s been doing to Indycar in 1995. But things could change! In which direction? We’ll find out! Qualifying results below.
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1. Jacques Villeneuve 58.046, Team Green R/F/G
2. Jimmy Vasser +0.095, Ganassi R/F/G
3. Teo Fabi +0.193, Forsythe R/F/G
4. Scott Pruett +0.218, Patrick L/F/F
5. Bobby Rahal +0.226, Rahal-Hogan L/M/G
6. Michael Andretti +0.243, Newman-Haas L/F/G
7. Robby Gordon +0.395, Walker R/F/G
8. Al Unser, Jr +0.401, Penske P/M/G
9. Andre Ribeiro +0.439, Tasman R/H/F
10. Paul Tracy +0.495, Newman-Haas L/F/G
11. Gil de Ferran +0.533, Hall R/M/G
12. Christian Fittipaldi +0.621, Walker R/F/G
 
Sullivan 13th, Gugelmin 14th, Boesel 16th and Vasser’s teammate Bryan Herta starting all the way back in P19. What happened to PacWest? Eric “The” Bachelart and Marco Greco are both here in their part time entries, and it’s Buddy Lazier’s turn to start last in Project Indy’s ‘94 Reynard. That all makes up a nice entry of 27 for the little Toronto course.
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We’ll start this at the usual time of 6pm BST on Sunday, 24 May. It’ll be odd not to have the Monaco Grand Prix or Indy 500 that day but I reckon this race will fit between those two in terms of on-track interest. Anyway, video below. See you then!

 



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#2 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 00:05

And here's the all-important spotter's guide:
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No Parker, and Buddy Lazier in the #64 Project Indy entry. Scott Pruett has a nice and possibly one-off Nike livery for this weekend, so keep an eye out for that.
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Posted 24 May 2020 - 03:50

Cool, Risil.

I will be in the road during this one so I will miss the party.

#4 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 08:45

Aw, too bad. Good luck on the road!

#5 rghojai

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 08:59

Yay. I hope we keep doing these on the weekends without racing.

#6 LucaP

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 09:36

Looking at quali times, I had no idea Teo Fabi was still so quick that late in his career. He was already past 40.

#7 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:24

Yay. I hope we keep doing these on the weekends without racing.


I would like to keep doing these until racing has developed a critical mass again. Once (if?) F1, Indy, IMSA and MotoGP are properly back in July I think we might have enough racing on any weekend.

If things get grim again this winter I guess we'll want to look at doing 1993 or 1997 or something.

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:47

Looking at quali times, I had no idea Teo Fabi was still so quick that late in his career. He was already past 40.


He reminds me of the other short bald guy who used to drive for Benetton, Roberto Moreno.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 15:39

If you wanted to see some highlights of the weekend's Indy Lights race with French Canadian commentators then boy are you in luck! Non-spoiler spoiler alert: Greg Moore wins, as he always did that year. Bonus points if you can spot 1991 F1 trier Pedro Chaves (he turned up, he drove the Coloni, he failed to pre-qualify).

 



#10 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 16:46

15 (well, 14) mins!



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:00

And we're off like a prom dress.



#12 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:00

Go!



#13 rghojai

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:00

Young Canadians!



#14 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:01

Lyn St James and Sam Posey! This is getting dangerously collegey.



#15 rghojai

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:01

Dammit. I want Uncle Bobby.



#16 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:02

And alone in the fourteenth row is Buddy Lazier.



#17 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:04

Paul Page on the last corner: "It's fast and it's very dangerous, even when it's in good condition." OK then!



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:04

Is Emmo having something of a summer vacation? 



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:04

Green, green, green!

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#20 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:05

Jacques and Mikey aren't messing around.



#21 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:05

Damn it Bryan.



#22 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:06

"This is where he had the big accident and the broken legs last year"



#23 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:06

I think Cracker Jack might be a new sponsor for the Target Ganassi car.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:08

Woo Hoo! CNE Stadium in the background. Insanely enough, I saw Evel Knievel do a jump there.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:09

Sam stop talking about Bryan Herta's broken legs



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:09

Woo Hoo! CNE Stadium in the background. Insanely enough, I saw Evel Knievel do a jump there.

 

What did he jump over?



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:09

Relieved that he doesn't have to run here?



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:10

Relieved that he doesn't have to run here?

 

He wasn't doing much running in 1994. Is something they didn't have to say.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:11

Trucks

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=TnDh5VNXQmY



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:11

Pruett under pressure... Or is it Teo Fabi?

Edited by ANF, 24 May 2020 - 17:12.


#31 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:11

I like how local yellows at Turn 3 prevent passing just as effectively as a full course yellow.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:13

Teo Fabi is holding them all up.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:14

"That's Zampedri working his way by ... Bachelart ... and the others." Sam Posey says what he sees!



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:16

Unser is going to jump Rahal.

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:16

He tried to get down inside him! Ooooh!!



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:17

Unser is going to jump Rahal.

 

If Unser qualified well he'd have won everything in the 1990s.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:18

Unser is going to jump Rahal.

 

Close!



#38 ANF

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:19

Oops, he did jump him!

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:20

Full IndyCar!!!!!



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:23

Mikey montage time! He did well to get that pitstop in and not lose any track position.



#41 rghojai

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:23

MikeTV



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:25

Oh dear. What's gone on there?


Edited by ArchieTech, 24 May 2020 - 17:25.


#43 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:25

Whaaaat



#44 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:25

That's literally the whole Z list out in one crash!



#45 rghojai

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:27

Okay, that was full IndyCar



#46 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:29

Jacques and Jimmy decided the extended caution period meant they had to pit after all. Oops.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:29

We need a replay of that from the Goodyear Blimp.

#48 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:30

Barry Green is furious about some detail of yellow flag procedure that I don't understand but appears to have ruined his driver's race.



#49 rghojai

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:31

Cleveland!



#50 Risil

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 17:32

Jean Girard Eric Bachelart lays down the truth!