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F1 Rewind Wed 27 May: 1998 Belgian Grand Prix (18:00 UTC)


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#1 midgrid

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 18:11

F1 has seemingly dispensed with democracy for the Wednesday-night classic Grand Prix. This week's executive choice is the chaotic and soaking 1998 Belgian Grand Prix, famous for a huge pile-up at the start, a pit-lane attempted punch-up between Michael Schumacher and David Coulthard, and a maiden victory (a one-two finish, indeed!) for the Jordan team.

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#2 Spillage

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 18:17

One of the first races I can remember watching live. Mainly because of a three-wheeled Ferrari and a very colourful podium.



#3 Risil

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 18:21

Another race with a really long delay at the start! I'm sure they're doing this deliberately now.



#4 TomNokoe

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 18:25

Just how much of the 50 minute red flag will they treat us to? :D



#5 PayasYouRace

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 19:42

I never actually saw the last few laps of this at the time. I was out with my family so we set the VCR to record the race. Unfortunately, the tape ran out with about 3 laps to go.



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Posted 26 May 2020 - 22:11

I would so loved to have watched this race live can't imagine what it was like, unfortunately was too young at the time.

#7 ezequiel

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 22:42

I hope they don't cut the red flag interruption



#8 SenorSjon

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:29

I can't bear to watch this one. I'm still fuming about the DC-MS contact with DC already messing about most of the lap.



#9 statman

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:33

I still have to laugh at the Ferrari coming out of the spray resembling a Reliant Robin



#10 messy

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 15:45

I can't bear to watch this one. I'm still fuming about the DC-MS contact with DC already messing about most of the lap.


This race really put me off DC and set me away from supporting drivers because of nationality. I‘ve never really gone back to it since. I felt really aggrieved for Schumacher, genuinely. I thought DC messed around and tried to deliberately screw him up, not for the first or last time. He had a real Schumacher complex, didn’t he?

That’s why I liked Mika, he raced with respect. Conveniently forgetting his F3 clash at Macau with Schumi anyway.

How accurate that memory of the DC/Schumacher crash is, I’ll find out later on I guess.

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 16:04

Strangely I can't find the race's transmission channel on YouTube (they usually put it up there with anticipation)



#12 midgrid

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 16:45

Spotter's guide:

 

1998-Belgian-Grand-Prix-spotters-guide-1

1998-Belgian-Grand-Prix-spotters-guide-2

1998-Belgian-Grand-Prix-spotters-guide-3



#13 Otaku

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 16:52

It might rain



#14 statman

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 16:57

I did not know it was called Benetton-Playlife



#15 Risil

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 17:04

On the basis of that spotter's guide I predict good performances from Fisichella, Hill, Alesi, Diniz and Tuero. The others might struggle.



#16 Risil

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 17:05

The design of the front of the Tyrrell is really interesting!



#17 Otaku

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 17:32

Strangely I can't find the race's transmission channel on YouTube (they usually put it up there with anticipation)

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=g4JeSuejA4w



#18 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:01

Watched 1998 in full last month, but any excuse :D

#19 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:05

Only 3 races to go after this one!

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#20 Bleu

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:05

There hasn't been any changes in sectors since. 

1st sector ends at the end of Kemmel straight

2nd sector ends before the Stavelot corner

Speed trap on the exit of Raidillon



#21 Spillage

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:09

Looks really wet! Inters might be a bit of a gamble



#22 Spillage

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:12

That start crash was pure carnage. Imagine that happening now, with no spare cars.



#23 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:13

Looks worse every time I see it

Are they going to stream the full red flag?!

#24 fridge46

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:14

Rosset :mad:



#25 Spillage

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:14

Looks like Rosset wasn't paying much attention there.



#26 Bleu

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:15

Rosset crashing into the pile of already wrecked cars.



#27 midgrid

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:15

Johnny Herbert running! It must be serious.

#28 Spillage

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:17

Johnny Herbert running! It must be serious.

I was just going to say that surprised me - his Wikipedia says that his horrible foot injuries left him permanently unable to run.

 

Also I think it is surprising to see Martin & Murray speculating that Ferrari might not let Irvine take the spare car just in case Schumacher needs it later.



#29 Bleu

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:17

It is easier to list drivers who got through:

 

Häkkinen

M Schumacher

Villeneuve

Frentzen

Hill

R Schumacher

Alesi

Fisichella

Tuero

 

Verstappen got puncture/suspension damage but got his car back to the grid.



#30 midgrid

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:18

Verstappen and particularly Ralf Schumacher did a good job to keep going through that.

#31 ANF

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:19

What if Eddie Irvine would have got the spare car...

#32 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:20

Time jump!

#33 midgrid

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:20

Miracle of miracles! A time jump!

#34 Bleu

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:22

Bridgestone intermediate tyre is more treaded than Goodyear one.



#35 Spillage

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:24

Hakkinen's accident could have been really nasty, head-on like that. Was there contact with Schumacher?



#36 ANF

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:24

Oh, Irvine is still running.

#37 fridge46

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:25

where has DC gone?

 

EDIT: Ah, nevermind


Edited by fridge46, 27 May 2020 - 18:25.


#38 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:25

DC out of the race for the second time! or is he

#39 ANF

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:27

Häkkinen's car just wouldn't rotate.

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#40 ANF

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:28

DC out of the race for the second time! or is he


Third time's a charm.

#41 Boing 2

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:28

If Hills career had been run backwards his stock would have been much higher.



#42 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:29

That was a very quick safety car

#43 Boing 2

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:30

Murray and Martin really were quite feisty in talking over each other.



#44 midgrid

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:31

Häkkinen's tyre marks on Schumacher's sidepod.

#45 Boing 2

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:33

When Hill was on form he was damned good, never a great racer but bloody quick.



#46 PayasYouRace

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:34

Damon really nailed the second start.



#47 TomNokoe

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:35

1994 World Champion? If only, Murray!!

#48 PayasYouRace

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:35

Why are SSF1 doing their 1995 Belgian GP re-watch at the same time?



#49 midgrid

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:36

Villeneuve had a spin coming out of the final corner.

#50 Risil

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 18:37

Why are SSF1 doing their 1995 Belgian GP re-watch at the same time?


They should superimpose both sets of cars over the top like in Ghost mode on Mario Kart