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[Steffen]

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I have found a video on youtube that shows a bit more.
The video is 22 minutes long, obviously professional, released two years ago, with only 18(!) views so far. So I highly asume nobody here knows it.

https://youtu.be/DVaIv9Su51s

At 19:00 there is an interview with Prost, before the podium ceremony. At 20:00 Prost and Senna are brought to the ceremony.

The whole video is mute, but my assumption is, they let Senna join the ceremony as some kind of compensation for missing his first win so close.

[DCapps]

Forix also lists Bellof as disqualified, Arnoux 3rd instead.

 

Same on formula1.com

 

I guess that's official enough?

 

 

"Striking them from the competition", "disqualification"... it all leads to the same, those results don't show up in the record books. Of course, I reckon in private everyone is free to be selective about which of those decisions he accepts and which not.

 

 

That's how it is handled with Schumacher in 1997.

 

But not with the Tyrell drivers in 1984. Instead they don't show up in neither race results nor championship table. Forix lists them as "disqualified" in every race they finished.

 

You guys may not like it, but it is what it is.

That site, to be kind to the feeble-minded, is quite challenged when it comes to any history that has a factual basis.... The FIA has, at best, a rather dim grasp of its past and an even murkier view of its history.

[Jon Saltinstall]

Interesting discussion - does anyone know the outcome of the defamation case that Ickx brought against Balestre? I don’t recall seeing it reported and haven’t been able to find a ruling ….

[barrykm]

Yep, Jacky waived the flag about 25 laps to early

 

Can you imagine the outcome if this happened in 2022..it would be the end of the world as we know it 

[Emery0323]

Back to topic:

I have found a video on youtube that shows a bit more.
The video is 22 minutes long, obviously professional, released two years ago, with only 18(!) views so far. So I highly asume nobody here knows it.

https://youtu.be/DVaIv9Su51s

 

Great find, Steffen!  Looks like some raw TV footage, the lack of audio is puzzling.   Senna has such a disappointed demeanor and his 2nd-place cup looks toy-like compared to Prost's.  Also - It's startling to see a younger, leaner HSH Prince Albert with a full head of hair!  I almost didn't recognize him.

 

Can you imagine the outcome if this happened in 2022..it would be the end of the world as we know it 

Yes!  ...although the effect on the outcome of the 1984 WDC was not immediately apparent, as it was in 2021.

 

Edited by Emery0323, 06 September 2022 - 13:53.