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[Beri]

Audi sold their shares to Qatar and engine is doubtful.

If 2026 runs without Audi Engine. The new Engine Rules would be a total disaster and removed 1 car manufacturer replaced by a Energy Drink company genuine car manufacturer.

 

Fixed it for you. Because if you consider the exclusive likes of Bugatti and Pagani, with their limited car output per year, to be a car manufacturer. You should also consider the same for a company that builds the RB17.

 

Your personal bias set aside, you should see these efforts not in tandem with the part of the company that kickstarted the racing team and the automotive effort. But I guess you know that already.

[JRodrigues]

Once again, I'll post this here.

 

Today:

 

Chairman of the Board of Sauber Motorsport AG Gernot Dollner said: “Led by Mattia, Audi's Formula 1 project is making great progress in many areas. The signing of the second driver is another milestone.

 

 

“We are currently witnessing a generational shift in Formula One, with young drivers immediately making an impact. By signing Gabriel Bortoleto, we have secured one of these top talents. His signing underscores Audi's long-term strategy and commitment to Formula 1.”

[kumo7]

Once again, I'll post this here.

 

Today:

 

I can now read it Rodrigues, thank you. 

I should like to see the car that AUDI is building and hear the PU running.

[pdac]

Once again, I'll post this here.
 
Today:

Chairman of the Board of Sauber Motorsport AG Gernot Dollner said: “Led by Mattia, Audi's Formula 1 project is making great progress in many areas. The signing of the second driver is another milestone.

“We are currently witnessing a generational shift in Formula One, with young drivers immediately making an impact. By signing Gabriel Bortoleto, we have secured one of these top talents. His signing underscores Audi's long-term strategy and commitment to Formula 1.”

 

 
The trouble is that it doesn't underscore their long-term strategy. It's just a signing.

[Wuzak]

Audi sold their shares to Qatar 

 

They did?

 

This is confirmed, or is it just a rumour?

 

How many shares did they sell? 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%?

 

Bearing in mind that Audi owns 100% of Sauber. And that Mercedes is only a part owner in the Mercedes F1 team.

[GreenMachine]

His rumour thread was shut down after two replies, maybe that says something ...

[Clatter]

They did?

This is confirmed, or is it just a rumour?

How many shares did they sell? 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%?

Bearing in mind that Audi owns 100% of Sauber. And that Mercedes is only a part owner in the Mercedes F1 team.

Have Audi taken full ownership? Thought that wasn't happening until 2026.

[Wuzak]

Have Audi taken full ownership? Thought that wasn't happening until 2026.

 

They brought that forward.

 

https://www.formula1...jl03sw5btt4LuSw

[sterlingfan2000]

https://it.motorspor.../10671913/?s=09

Seems like Patrol War is coming. A better fuel could be worth 50PS!

Some Fuel Manufacturers have not the budget of for example Aramco and there's fear around the Paddock. Motorsport says there might be 1 Engine Supplier Domination like Mercedes 2014

Edited by sterlingfan2000, 10 November 2024 - 14:18.

[Beri]

https://it.motorspor.../10671913/?s=09
Seems like Patrol War is coming. A better fuel could be worth 50PS!
Some Fuel Manufacturers have not the budget of for example Aramco and there's fear around the Paddock. Motorsport says there might be 1 Engine Supplier Domination like Mercedes 2014

Nonsense. All involved are among the biggest manufacturers. Shell, Aramco, BP, ExxonMobil, Petronas. Gimme a break with those unfounded rumors. That the generation Efuels, coming in in 2026, are going to make a difference was clear already. Nothing new there. And that it is likely 1 team will dominate, well that's obvious. 2009, 2014 and 2022 have shown this to be true, after a rules overhaul, that one team likely dominates. Nothing new either.

[sterlingfan2000]

So Renault out, let's see if Audi will go ahead with their engine.

My hopes are Audi pulls out too and F1 gets another slap for their whole Hybrid Engine Saga. Should have got rid of these expensive Engines back in 2015

[HistoryFan]

and a slap for letting no new teams in...

[Boing Ball]

So, is it still too early to start kicking off the "keep the MGU-H and wait until 2030 when meat is back on the menu" -discussion?

[GreenMachine]

So, is it still too early to start kicking off the "keep the MGU-H and wait until 2030 when meat is back on the menu" -discussion?

 

Never too soon for that.

[MRX94]

So, is it still too early to start kicking off the "keep the MGU-H and wait until 2030 when meat is back on the menu" -discussion?

That would likely require the consent from all engine manufacturers, and I'm pretty sure at least one of them believes they have a big advantage over the others with these new rules, so I can't see that happening. RBPT doesn't even have a MGU-H they can use, since the IP belongs to Honda.

Edited by MRX94, 13 November 2024 - 23:38.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

So, is it still too early to start kicking off the "keep the MGU-H and wait until 2030 when meat is back on the menu" -discussion?

I think loosing the MGU-H is the biggest mistake of 2026...

[sterlingfan2000]

I think loosing the MGU-H is the biggest mistake of 2026...

The biggest Mistake is the 50/50 Split. It influenced the Aero design

[kumo7]

I think 50:50 is ok, but I have this question why isn’t ICU applied to push the car at the higher speed, the regulation makes ICU for the start and E motor for the top speed. Sounds better for the start perhaps…

[Wuzak]

I think 50:50 is ok, but I have this question why isn’t ICU applied to push the car at the higher speed, the regulation makes ICU for the start and E motor for the top speed. Sounds better for the start perhaps…

 

The MGUK will mostly be used in acceleration.

 

Top speed will be achieved with lower MGUK power - if the speed is over 345km/h there is no MGUK power (except for override mode).

[kumo7]

The MGUK will mostly be used in acceleration.

Top speed will be achieved with lower MGUK power - if the speed is over 345km/h there is no MGUK power (except for override mode).

Yes, i’ve read the posts. Is ICU output limited bij the regulation also according to the speed of the car? such as 0-50 0% and so forth?

Edited by kumo7, 14 November 2024 - 22:49.

[Wuzak]

Yes, i’ve read the posts. Is ICU output limited bij the regulation also according to the speed of the car? such as 0-50 0% and so forth?

 

The ICU (combustion engine) is limited by fuel energy flow, which is related to rpm - maximum flow occurs at 10,500rpm and remains to 15,000rpm.

 

MGUK deplyment is related tp speed.

 

Maximum MGUK deployment is 350kW up to 290kph, and is reduced by 5kW per kph to 340kph, and then down to 0kW at 345kph (normal mode).

[sterlingfan2000]

https://theobjective...dillac-f1/?s=09

Audi will continue to develop its engines, and they are having a hard time. According to rumours, their 2026 engine is not on schedule, and they are having a hard time finding qualified personnel.

The Problem with Audi will be that no one wants to move to Germany