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#1 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 17:51

Read the article on how they were selling the chequered flag bits for charity and thought £200 was a bit steep (also why is it £199.99? seriously) considering i'd seen nifty clocks made out of engine gears for that kind of price previously.

 

There is some pricey weird but cool stuff out there but as I scrolled down through the stuff that's on sale I found this and it made me wonder if Rogro and co keep crashing to put their kids through college on carbon scrap  :p

 

I still have have 2 of Schumi's 5 title caps from back in the day but I've gifted the 6 and 7 title ones to friends and family over the years.

 

What's the best piece of memorabilia you've bought or seen and what's the worst?



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#2 Radoye

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 18:06

What's the best piece of memorabilia you've bought or seen and what's the worst?

I've seen bits of the 1982 Pironi Ferrari after his career ending crash in Hockenheim - owned by a family friend who worked as a flag marshal that day. Just that can easily be ranked as best AND worst at the same time.



#3 Afterburner

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 18:19

Best piece, purely for the sheer WTFery involved, is a Honda-branded cowbell obtained for free at one of the vendor stalls during the Honda Indy GP of Alabama–which, the next year, I had signed by all of the Honda prototype drivers in IMSA. I also have a bottle of Sato 101 signed by the man himself, courtesy of one of this forum's most awesome members. :D

 

Worst piece of memorabilia I've seen are probably the fake nosecones from Ayrton Senna's crashed Williams on the web. Owning the real thing would be a little morbid in and of itself, but that people are faking it?



#4 absinthedude

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 18:32

I have a Fernando Alonso/Renault flag from 2006. I think its the only piece of memorabilia that I have unless you count books, a couple of which are signed (Moss, Mansell, Eddie Jordan). 

 

As for teams selling bits of cars, I imagine the buyers like to feel they've got a little piece of F1 history on their desks. There's nothing wrong with that, and you do see fans scrambling to collect bits of crashed cars. Personally I do think it's very bad taste if a driver is seriously injured or killed. But it's still a piece of F1 history.



#5 king_crud

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:01

Back when Adelaide was the last race the mechanics would often sell bits to make a bit of spending money. In 1995 my mate bought the wooden plank of the bottom of a Ligier. I got given a wheel nut by a Jordan mechanic for free. I've bought memorabilia before and after but that wheel nut is my favourite item

#6 grandmastashi

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:01

I had the main element of a rear wing from an '01 Williams on my wall for a decade; I think it was from Montoya's car from the writing on the carbon fibre. Ending up selling it when I was short of cash a few years ago. It was great to have and say I own a piece of an F1 car, but that was kind of where its value ended. 

 

I worked in the F1 shop in Chester UK for a number of years back in my teens and we had loads of bits of cars and signed stuff for sale. I''m pretty sure I remember one of the other staff telling me how Tom Walkinshaw stumbled upon the place one day during his Arrows tenure and came in to browse around. During his visit he apparently pulled the owner to one side asked him how he'd come upon several of the pieces of car for sale, because they'd gone 'missing' from the Arrows factory... 

 

I've still got a fairly big collection of signed photos, 1/2 scale helmets and 1:43 Minichamps cars, but am getting to the point where I could probably stand to move them on so others can enjoy them now. 



#7 Henri Greuter

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:02

One of the most funny `fakes` I heard of and saw how it ended was when a friend of my bought a slightly damaged crankshaft of, supposedly the engine in the car in which Eddie Sachs was killed.

 

Thinking it over and over, eventually I concluded that such was almost next to impossible because the Ford engines were under tight control and de engine from the wreck bing returend to Ford. And how a damaged crank could have left from that enviroment?

 

The answer cam when we went to an engine shop with it where people worked who were familiar with the Ford Quadcam engine. But there were also people who were familiar with Offy engines and they identified the shaft as that of an Offy and in bad shape too.

 

 

 

Probably the most remarkable item within my collection is a fragment from the wreckage of the March 90CA crashed by Roberto Guerrero on May 14th 1990 at Indy.

The wreck was taken from wone wrecker onto another trailer  but a littl fragmetn dropped on the floor. When teh crowd disappeared it was still there and I took it as a reminder. No idea if it is a piece from the monocoque or, most likely, the bodywork.

But I also have a little white marble I took away from the creek within Turn 1 when that still was visible and accessible.

 

As for models, a 1:43  Brumm of the 1947 Don Lee Special  Mrecedes W154, signed by its driver Duke Nalon is most likely a rarity nowadays.


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#8 johnwilliamdavies

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:14

I've got an original bolt from a 1938 Auto Union "D" Type.



#9 Raikkinen

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:21

I have a spark plug that's used in Mika Hakkinens MP-4/13 in 1998. Certified by McLaren.

#10 Beri

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:22

I've collected every Williams Team cap since 1998.
The worst must be the 2020 ROKiT sponsored one.

#11 Zoe

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:26

The question which is which can be answered quite simple: If you have something and want to sell it, it is garbage. If someone else has something that you would like to have, it is an expensive memorabilia.

 

My memorabilia I have is a Cadillac, whose first owner was a musician of a well known rock band. Otherwise I have a CART cap and polo shirt and a stone kicked up at Laguna Seca long time ago by Signore Andretti :)



#12 phrank

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:44

I still have a Pacific GP umbrella



#13 balage06

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:46

I won a comic book for children at a World Series by Renault event.



#14 Luca Pacchiarini

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:47

I still have a Pacific GP umbrella


Does it work properly?

#15 phrank

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:54

Does it work properly?

Think it was the only thing they got right



#16 absinthedude

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 19:56

Does anyone else remember those ads in Autsport back in the 80s and 90s for tables made from F1 tyres? Someone was getting hold of used Goodyears, putting glass tops on them and selling them as coffee tables for £50. I imagine there are still a few around.



#17 Myrvold

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 20:01

I still have a Pacific GP umbrella

Oh! Love it!

 

I still regret that I didn't buy a BMS Scuderia Italia 1993 shirt I found years ago. Didn't buy it because it wasn't my size...



#18 absinthedude

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 20:11

I bet that Pacific umbrella has lasted longer than any other part of the team!



#19 rghojai

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 20:27

Signed tire from a Dale Earnhardt RCR Chevy. It was crazy cheap about 25 years ago, from his Chevrolet dealership in North Carolina.

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#20 Frood

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 20:44

I have, in my prized possession, a 2007 Super Aguri t-shirt and a 2004 BAR/Takuma Sato t-shirt too. Somewhere I have a signed picture of Ralph Firman. I don't know how I came to own it as I've never met him or particularly cared about him as a driver.

 

Various bits of Penske memorabilia; a Rick Mears t-shirt, a Jim Bamber "Penske steamroller" t-shirt, a framed print of Emerson Fittipaldi winning the '93 Indy 500 painted for Penske employees and somewhere a watch given to all team members for the '93 win. Also I have a G-Force 2000 Indy 500 winners hat from the Montoya victory.



#21 Afterburner

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 20:51

Does anyone else remember those ads in Autsport back in the 80s and 90s for tables made from F1 tyres? Someone was getting hold of used Goodyears, putting glass tops on them and selling them as coffee tables for £50. I imagine there are still a few around.

Ha, you've just reminded me of this. :lol:

#22 Frood

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 20:56

Ha, you've just reminded me of this. :lol:

That's almost getting into the realms of the USF1 toaster!



#23 Louis Mr. F1

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 21:34



Does anyone else remember those ads in Autsport back in the 80s and 90s for tables made from F1 tyres? Someone was getting hold of used Goodyears, putting glass tops on them and selling them as coffee tables for £50. I imagine there are still a few around.

 

Like this one?

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#24 Alan Lewis

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 21:38

I still have the t-shirt from the last Grand Prix at Brands in '86. And it almost still fits...

...for a given value of "almost".

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 22:22

A few highlights.

 

I have a pair of goggles with only one lens intact which has the label "Brookland Outer Track Lap Record Holding Googles, Circ 1928". No idea how genuine they are. They look the part. I got them from eBay.

 

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I have a tear-off strip I found on the Sepang F1 circuit after the inaugural race in 1999.

 

2007 Super Aguri team shirt I bought at Shanghai which I longer fit into.

 

​A broken clock made of a Jordan brake disc from the late 90s.

 

A t-shirt from the 2003 London Champ Car Trophy at Brands Hatch.


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#26 Dolph

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 22:22

I collected rubber on track from the 2013 British GP. Also, gravel from Turn 1 at Le Mans in 2018 and the confetti strips blue and silver from 2018 Le Mans.

Edited by Dolph, 23 June 2020 - 22:23.


#27 midgrid

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 22:33

My prized possession is a Super Aguri cap signed by Sakon Yamamoto.

#28 danmills

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 22:55

My brother has a signed photo of Schumacher, Wendlinger and Frentzen from the early Mercedes years and a few 92 Benetton posters / photos signed by Schummi and Brundle.

We have lots of memorabilia over the years, but the best things are not objects but a tusk interactions meeting various drivers.

My personal fave was sitting in the Red Bull motor home and being allowed to help myself to the staff bits in Barcelona. As I went to take a can in the team fridge, Adrian Newey squeezed past making himself a coffee wishing me a good morning. I was like a child and just grinned.

#29 Dolph

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 22:59

I've collected every Williams Team cap since 1998.
The worst must be the 2020 ROKiT sponsored one.


Why worst. Its got its own story

#30 Dolph

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 23:03

I got 11 michael andretti signed visors. Dont know if authentic or not. From ebay

#31 Myrvold

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 00:45

Oh, just remembered.
I got some carbon-fiber winglets from Lorenzo Bertelli's Ford Fiesta WRC, from Sweden 2019.



#32 TecnoRacing

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 01:41

I have a homemade HHF cap from 1998 :lol:



#33 Nobody

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 01:51

I got a piece of carbon fibre body work from either Kubica's BMW or Vettel's RB from this https://www.youtube....h?v=ncRZ0a29kZU

 

Three marshalls collected the pieces and stood around them guarding but as the crowd around them grew, the pile gradually got smaller and smaller  :lol:

 

This moments before I 'retrieved' my souvenir...   ;)

 

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#34 AustinF1

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 02:12

I got a piece of carbon fibre body work from either Kubica's BMW or Vettel's RB from this https://www.youtube....h?v=ncRZ0a29kZU

 

Three marshalls collected the pieces and stood around them guarding but as the crowd around them grew, the pile gradually got smaller and smaller  :lol:

 

This moments before I 'retrieved' my souvenir...   ;)

 

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I have a few USGP tabards like the ones they're wearing. Not sure if they're worth much, but who knows, I guess...


Edited by AustinF1, 24 June 2020 - 02:12.


#35 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 04:40

Does anyone else remember those ads in Autsport back in the 80s and 90s for tables made from F1 tyres? Someone was getting hold of used Goodyears, putting glass tops on them and selling them as coffee tables for £50. I imagine there are still a few around.

 

They still do those on limited runs with wheel rims

 

https://f1store.form...e---pink/214142

 

But they ain't £50 anymore  :rotfl:



#36 Bleu

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 06:14

I bet that Pacific umbrella has lasted longer than any other part of the team!

 

Their website was online for ridiculously long time too.



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Posted 24 June 2020 - 08:14

I think I still have bits of Kubicas wrc fords splitter. Also a big set of "team postcards" as a thanks from the team helping get the car on to a trailer after he rolled and destroyed the car.

 

Also have his autograph on my rallypass and Neuville signed my painting in Sweden. As far as f1 goes I have signature from Bottas on my painting, need to have new one later next year I think.

 

Otherwise just "regular" fan stuff. Like Kimi, VB stuff.



#38 Myrvold

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:41

Also have his autograph on my rallypass and Neuville signed my painting in Sweden. As far as f1 goes I have signature from Bottas on my painting, need to have new one later next year I think.

Oh. Lost it one of the many times Ive moved in the years since.
But I managed to get the autographs of every driver and co driver. Plus some retired legends that attended the 2007 WRC Rally Norway.

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#39 BRG

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 12:18

I am not a collector by nature.  I do have a few Press and VIP passes for GPs and rallies that I have kept but otherwise nothing. 

 

I did have a sort of plastic Sam Browne belt affair that Press pass holders had to wear at one of the British GP in the 1970s.  I think it had Marlboro all over it. I kept it for some years but have decided that it was just a bit of old tat and binned it.

 

Shame, I probably could have sold it on e-Bay for good money!


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#40 Sterzo

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 12:37

I'm afraid when I saw the heading "Memorabilia or garbage?" I thought "memorabilia is garbage." I'd pay good money not to own a team hat. Just don't get it. I can sort of understand owning a car part; a bit like owning the car but cheaper, but I wouldn't myself.

 

Books, magazines, programmes, models, I do get... but I've never sought an autograph. That's just me. I have other foibles too.



#41 Fatgadget

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 12:57

One mans rubbish another mans jewels......



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Posted 24 June 2020 - 14:43

'Way back in 1988 I was standing exactly behind the barrier hit by Jochen Mass' Sauber-Mercedes when this happened ( I can still feel the thump ) -

 

 

A small piece of chassis honeycomb from mass' car, complete with black carbon fibre, landed at my feet and I still have it as a souvenir.



#43 potmotr

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 14:55

Back when Adelaide was the last race the mechanics would often sell bits to make a bit of spending money. In 1995 my mate bought the wooden plank of the bottom of a Ligier. I got given a wheel nut by a Jordan mechanic for free. I've bought memorabilia before and after but that wheel nut is my favourite item

 

I do remember that!

 

For years I had a Ligier t-shirt I bought off a mechanic after the race, looked very exotic with all that Gitanes branding!  



#44 Myrvold

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 15:14

I do remember that!

 

For years I had a Ligier t-shirt I bought off a mechanic after the race, looked very exotic with all that Gitanes branding!  

 

This explains the huge number of 90's and very early 00's official, worn, team clothing around. But very little after this period.

 

Learn something every day, eh! :)



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Posted 24 June 2020 - 15:35

I have a front wheel, a carbon pushrod and a suspension rocker from the Williams FW26 ('Walrus nose') from 2004. I also have both banks of V10 exhaust manifolds from McLaren for I think a Honda engine.



#46 absinthedude

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 15:53

 

Like this one?

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Yep, that's the people I was thinking of. Not bad value for money though I bet they got the tyres free. Curiously that address is still a tyre company.



#47 Fatgadget

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 16:00

I have a front wheel, a carbon pushrod and a suspension rocker from the Williams FW26 ('Walrus nose') from 2004. I also have both banks of V10 exhaust manifolds from McLaren for I think a Honda engine.

How did you smuggle that booty out of the circuit?



#48 king_crud

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 18:24

This explains the huge number of 90's and very early 00's official, worn, team clothing around. But very little after this period.

Learn something every day, eh! :)


I was at the back of the pits of Adelaide in 95 on the Saturday afternoon and a Jordan mechanic was hanging about with not much to do. This is outside of the paddock, in the general admission area. He worked on gearboxes and as the car was sorted by the last race and he's done all his rebuilds and installations nice and early he was happy to chat with me for an hour or so, an awe struck 18 yo. He then offered to get Barrichello to sign a Jordan t shirt I'd bought and had in a bag, of course i accepted. He was back ten mins later with the sig.

Different times

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 20:50

I had the armbands of Jim Clark and Colin Chapman from the 1960 Belgian GP.

 

A letter from Roland Ratzenberger's parents thanking me for including him in my book "Granite and Marble"



#50 potmotr

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 21:25

I was at the back of the pits of Adelaide in 95 on the Saturday afternoon and a Jordan mechanic was hanging about with not much to do. This is outside of the paddock, in the general admission area. He worked on gearboxes and as the car was sorted by the last race and he's done all his rebuilds and installations nice and early he was happy to chat with me for an hour or so, an awe struck 18 yo. He then offered to get Barrichello to sign a Jordan t shirt I'd bought and had in a bag, of course i accepted. He was back ten mins later with the sig.

Different times

 

Definitely was! 

 

That same race ('92 Australian Grand Prix) the Ferrari mechanics were over the wall selling the race spark plugs from Nicola Larani's car, barely half an hour after it had finished!

 

Minardi were selling the overalls for Fittipaldi too. 

 

Was great, and a good way to put a bit of cash in the crews' pockets.

 

I think I read somewhere that McLaren bans its team members from selling on racewear, and follows it very closely.