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#1 Anthony999

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 15:01

Marsh-Special-YRF-167-MMEC-Silverstone-2I am trying to track down some details of the Peter Gammon Special that he ran at Silverstone on the 27th June 1953, before he was involved with Lotus and drove a Lotus 6 and other cars.

In the attached photo he is number 44 on the far right of the photo.

Thank you.


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#2 Allan Lupton

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 09:03

There's a photo of the car at that MMEC Silverstone (and a report of the meeting) on p425 of Motor Sport of August '53.

DVLA has the car with that reg. no. (LBP150) as a 1250cc MG of September 1949 which would be an MG TC

I don't recognise 1497cc as an XPAG engine oversize, but so what?!



#3 fivestar

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 09:37

The 1998 T register yearbook has a four page article on this car.

unfortunately I do not know how to scan and post the article here.


Edited by fivestar, 08 July 2020 - 09:37.


#4 Jahn1234567890

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 11:43

Here are two screenshots of the car from the wonderful Revs Digital Library.

 

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#5 Anthony999

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 13:39

Thank you all for the information and photographs. I have managed to track down and copy the Motor Sport article which is interesting and reaffirms that I am looking for the correct car.

 

I haven't had any luck with the T register yearbook on like but have contacted the register to see if they are able to forward a copy and any information on the location of the car now.

 

The reason for my interest is that I am trying to locate the cars on the grid at Silverstone and particularly if they are Specials from the period. We are currently restoring car number 36 which is driven by Tony Marsh and it is helpful to look at other one-offs from the early 1950's. For those that are interested, I have a separate posting on this forum "Tony Marsh - Special".Marsh 

 

Thanks all.


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#6 fivestar

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 22:24

Please look at this link also

 

http://www.wsrp.cz/natgb1953.html#45



#7 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 05:01

In this earlier thread about Bob Spikins and his specials Charles Helps notes a couple of times that the MG engine in Peter Gammon’s MG special was also the engine fitted to Peter’s Lotus VI:

A bit OT but the ex-Peter Gammon UPE 9 is a Lotus Mk 6 and was always MG 1466 cc engined AFAIK. Carbs and exhaust on the same (driver's) side. Peter Gammon transferred the engine from his Gammon MG Special to the new Lotus for the 1954 season. The same engine went to Claude Rye's Lotus Mk 6 and is still in it so there are three cars with a claim to that engine! Lt Col R White used it in the 1955 season. Lovely pictures though. I will make sure the current owner sees them.



#8 Anthony999

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 15:06

Peter Gammon Special LBP 150

 

Thanks for the article

 

 

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#9 Anthony999

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 15:40

Does anyone know where Peter Gammon Special LBP 150 is now?



#10 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 16:35

Peter Gammon once claimed that the spirit of Mike Hawthorn was protecting him. Strangely this was a couple of years before Mike Lost his life.



#11 Doug Nye

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Posted 22 July 2020 - 18:54

Quite right Eric - he made that claim to me when I was researching 'Powered by Jaguar'. He attended a spiritualist church in Godalming, Surrey.  During a wide-ranging - and indeed for me quite riveting - conversation, he went on to explain that one of his spirit guides there was Joan of Arc... "Lovely woman, Joan...".

 

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#12 RogerFrench

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Posted 23 July 2020 - 13:42

Please forgive childish reminiscence, I was young when this car was in its prime, but thought it should be called a Delta.
Somehow Peter Gammon Delta resonated with my classical schooling......

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#13 CoulthardD

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:02

The Gammon MG was sold to my uncle, Jimmy Blumer, when Peter Gammon 'moved' to Lotus in 1955. The car is currently owned by Dave Saunders, an MG Car Club director. I managed to get Jimmy and Dave together with the car at Donington maybe 15 years ago. Would post a photo, but I've forgotten how hard that is...

 

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#14 Mothy

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Posted 07 February 2021 - 15:35

Here is LBP150 circa 1969 near Gloucester. The gentleman is my late father-in-law Nick Nicholls and his dog Kim. The car was owned by Brian Chapman. It was a fascinating car with the carbs projecting through  the bonnet with the sink plugs to bung in them when stopped to prevent ingress of rain. The gear lever knob was a piston and the steering wheel had skull and crossbones in the centre. There was large knob on the dashboard to adjust the rear dampers. Even though the original engine was taken by Peter Gammon, the replacement engine was lively enough. I only drove the car once and was fascinated with being able to observe all the road wheels in action. I was wanting to buy LBP for some years during the 1970s but Brian was unwilling to sell. In the meantime, a tree grew up though the floor as it was parked outside in a pub car park. One weekend during a few pints Brian sold the car to a stranger for £100. The same month. it was advertised in Motorsport as is, as a historic racing car for £1,100. I doubt that I could have afforded to rebuild it properly anyway.

 

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Posted 08 February 2021 - 22:47

What happened to the lovely grill from the first photo ?



#16 Mothy

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Posted 09 February 2021 - 09:47

Probably the result of a racing incident?

The car came like that (circa 1968) and that front was clearly already of an age.