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#1351 juicy sushi

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 13:25

Toyota were invited.  And declined.  They feel there's no ROI for the investment in contemporary IndyCar. 



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#1352 milestone 11

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 13:33

O'Ward's set-up went a bit south by the end, Rosenqvist's didn't, so Felix was able to hunt him down. 

Wasn't it more to do with the reds giving up?

#1353 paulb

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 15:46

O'Ward ran scuffed reds on his last stint.

 

Toyota has been in Indycar before powering AAR chassis, among others.



#1354 juicy sushi

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 16:42

Wasn't it more to do with the reds giving up?

Yup.  With more practice time to nail down the set-up, they may have been able to extend the life of those reds so Felix wouldn't have been able to get in range.

 

Lack of time means they don't have the data to find that set-up.  So, they guessed a bit.



#1355 prommer

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 17:58

Like that ^ phrase. Maybe I'll take it over to the F1 threads sometime.

 

If you do I get no credit. DJ Willy P has been spinning these bangers longer than Tiesto...

 

 

 

(mixes things up here and opts for 'whinger')

 

(starts at 2:30)

 

 

(and relatedly, 12 years of Power vs Dixon condensed into 16 glorious seconds.)



#1356 racinggeek

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 19:45

Wasn't it more to do with the reds giving up?

 

Yes, but remember that Frozenquist was closing on Pato pretty steadily when both were on the blacks in the middle of the race, especially toward the end of the stints. M. Pruett's notes piece at Racer.com said, as did juicy sushi above, that Pato's team had a strong short-run set-up but not so for a long run. Perhaps they hoped Pato could pull out a bigger lead and hanging on by going to the reds while Felix was on blacks but that obviously didn't happen.



#1357 racinggeek

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 19:53

Rahal's crash was scary!!   A foot to the left and he wouldn't be racing for a while...  I bet RA puts tires there before the next race...

 

Could be, although in all the years I've seen races of many different kinds at RA, I can't recall anyone ever hitting that wall at that particular spot before. They've hit before they got to that gap (which is where safety trucks enter/exit if necessary) but not that far down. As far as I know, anyway.



#1358 jonpollak

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 11:05

Dario talks first win memory’s.

https://racer.com/20...eakout-triumph/

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#1359 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 11:39

Toyota were invited. And declined. They feel there's no ROI for the investment in contemporary IndyCar.


Strange decision. Knowing that they already have the best Indycar driver under contract

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#1360 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 11:48

Strange decision. Knowing that they already have the best Indycar driver under contract

 

Scott Dixon hasn't driven with a Toyota engine since 2005 (2009 if you include Lexus).



#1361 juicy sushi

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 13:21

Strange decision. Knowing that they already have the best Indycar driver under contract

If no one's watching, it's not moving product, so why spend the money?  They've already got one under-performing North American racing series to support, so aren't going to double down.



#1362 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 15:22

If no one's watching, it's not moving product, so why spend the money? They've already got one under-performing North American racing series to support, so aren't going to double down.


The whole world was watching when Ferdinand the Great was driving. Plus he is their driver anyway.