135 replies to this topic

[Risil]

Colliding Ferraris? Oops.

[jannyg]

That was actually on Leclerc

[CSF]

10/10 Charles. I await the same abuse from the usual suspects had that been the other way around.

[DanardiF1]

How did that break the rear wing? Very odd

[Disgrace]

Ferrari are a sad joke.

[Kev00]

People will still blame Vettel lol

[thefinalapex]

Vettel early with the idiocy

Lol its leclerc Fault

[EndlessMotion]

Nice one Charles

[STRFerrari4Ever]

What was Leclerc doing there?

[Alex79]

Looks like certain Ferrari employees can WALK back to Maranello

[jonpollak]

Why?..... because Ferrari
Jp

[ARTGP]

Bloody hell

[Laptom]

No discussion on this one...

[Marklar]

Is this even worth a discussion?

[dweller23]

Looks like certain Ferrari employees can WALK back to Maranello

They might be too occupied with partying in Monaco.

[Kev00]

The most interesting thing is how Ferrari will spin it. I can’t see them blaming Leclerc

[noikeee]

Charles, you mad lad, wtf are you doing

Time for a serious bollocking from the team, first the escapade to Monaco, then the grid penalty, now this needless lunge.

[Spillage]

Leclerc's error. But it will be interesting to see how Ferrari play it. Both drivers make too many errors.

[CSF]

Why are we now splitting obvious incidents like Leclerc's penalty and this incident? 

[keeppari]

Stupid Vettel not giving enough room. Would've spinned sooner or later anyway.

[John B]

Stewards not bothering with investigation out of sympathy lol...

[Atreiu]

Not much to argue, Leclerc completely messed up and inflicted his team the most loss and embarassment possible.

Surely he has to pick up some points on his license for this.

[mangeliiito]

No investigation because both are out. Charles should have so penalty points for that in my opinion. Seen points dished out for far less. That was just pure stupid, I would understand if he drove his first season in F3. What was he thinking..?

[Laptom]

Leclerc's error. But it will be interesting to see how Ferrari play it. Both drivers make too many errors.

As a team manager you would be wondering if it are the drivers or if it is the team.

[Marklar]

The stewards are ridiculous.

This is one of those rare cases where there cant be two opinions about it. Leclerc deserved a penalty, if not for this race, then the next, and if not that at least penalty points.

And then you have them punishing minor 50/50 incidents on other occasions. What a joke

Edited by Marklar, 12 July 2020 - 13:26.

[SophieB]

Why are we now splitting obvious incidents like Leclerc's penalty and this incident? 

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Because it tends to generate further consequences and discussion, there’s a thread for the clash here.

 

https://forums.autos...-gp-2020-split/

 

As ever, please do start your own threads for separate incidents.

[SophieB]

The stewards are ridiculous.

This is one of those rare cases where there cant be two opinions about it. Leclerc deserved a penalty, if not for this race, then the next, and if not that at least penalty points.

And then you have them punishing minor 50/50 incidents on other occasions. What a joke

 

It makes it clear they judge it almost entirely on outcome, not offending behaviour.

[Sennasational]

I’ll never understand why they don’t investigate and punish bad/dangerous driving just because an incident was with a driver of the same team. There is a drivers championship too...

This was a horrible lunge from Leclerc.

[SophieB]

A point raised from my living room notes how the stewards tend to make more allowances on lap one, which is fair.

[CSF]

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Fair enough, though I dunno if even the more ardent Leclerc fans can create debate out of this one. 

[Dutchrudder]

Totally Leclerc’s fault. Feel sorry for Seb, can’t catch a break these days.

[B38]

Torpedo!

[ARTGP]

Seb sounds so exasperated in the interview. Complete idgaf mode. No emotion. It’s sad.

Edited by ARTGP, 12 July 2020 - 13:31.

[krapmeister]

Ferrari is the gift that keeps on giving

[noikeee]

Seb sounds so exasperated in the interview. Complete idgaf mode. No emotion. It’s sad.

He does sound like he's in "eh, who cares, this season is a write-off anyway" mood.

[motorhead]

Binotto must go, he doesn´t have control on anything atm. 

[djparky]

Clumsy first lap crash...

[Topsu]

Binotto must go, he doesn´t have control on anything atm. 

Look, Binotto might have lost control of the team, but it's hardly his fault if Leclerc decides to take a lunge on lap 1 against his teammate.

[SophieB]

Binotto must go, he doesn´t have control on anything atm. 

I don’t see much to suggest he actively should stay, but I am not sure it would help.

[Afterburner]

As much as I have come to loathe Leclerc... it’s the first lap. These things happen. He will learn.

[AvranaKern]

I think the discussion shouldn't be about who is to blame, but why the FIA didn't penalize LeClerc.

[djparky]

I think the discussion shouldn't be about who is to blame, but why the FIA didn't penalize LeClerc.

Its first lap incident...

[Sam1]

That was on Leclerc hes got it wrong

[FLB]

Leclerc is confirming he's the second coming of Gilles Villeveuve, for both the good and the bad...

[pRy]

He's young. All young drivers make mistakes. Even the greats.

 

His apology on Twitter is refreshingly honest: https://twitter.com/...311345443143681

[vlado]

Leclerc managed to make the situation worse than it already is.. Impressive 

[PlayboyRacer]

Leclerc is confirming he's the second coming of Gilles Villeveuve, for both the good and the bad...

I like. Most of the time.

You ****ed up Charles. Seb an innocent party - a shame for him.

[TheMessiah]

Leclerc really isn't coming across as a team player at all.

[Paco]

Wonder if this will blow up to a 20pg thread like last weekend...

Does matter as far as the race as they were only ever going to get 8-10... but man alive in a shorten tight season, losing all that data logging is insane... he knew how important it was to run a. Full race and to that...

Nonsense. Sure he’s young but for where they are and what they need... makes zero sense. All ego. He will never pull the team forward...

[A.Fant]

Leclerc takes full blame and saying excuses aren't enough for what he did but Binotto seemed to be in full defend Charles mode, pretty pathetic from Mattia TBH.

Edited by A.Fant, 12 July 2020 - 15:02.