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[Atreiu]

Mercedes would have made gains *over the winter* not during the lockdown. We all know what they were doing during the lockdown and it could proved far more important than any car race.

What did they do during lockdown? I didn’t keep up with news and rumors.

[Requiem84]

Dude, chill. Replace evidence with conviction and read it again.

 

Ah, we now need to magically change the words of someone else's posts to understand their meaning. 

[milestone 11]

What did they do during lockdown? I didn’t keep up with news and rumors.

Made CPAP devices and other medical equipment.

Edited by milestone 11, 05 August 2020 - 15:32.

[Atreiu]

Ah, we now need to magically change the words of someone else's posts to understand their meaning.

Good luck intepreting everything exactly as it’s written on the internet and assuming there is a perfect correspondence between thought and text on a multi-cultural/national board which has adopted english for the simple sake of convenience. You can do it.

[Requiem84]

Good luck intepreting everything exactly as it’s written on the internet and assuming there is a perfect correspondence between thought and text on a multi-cultural/national board which has adopted english for the simple sake of convenience. You can do it.

 

Ah yes, the word 'evidence' indeed is very close to conviction. Makes perfect sense to read it like that. 

 

Evidence is a pretty strong word, which is quite known and is hard to mix up with 'conviction'. These kind of 'cheating allegations' discussions usually end up with a call for evidence, trying to show that one cannot provide proof of foul play. My point was that last year with Ferrari nobody could provide proof either and actually nobody still can, because this proof is not available to anyone outside Ferrari / the FIA, but there are enough indications and circumstantial elements which lead to a clear conclusion. 

 

Meaning that requesting evidence, or claiming that the lack thereof 'proofs' there is no foul play, is a bogus strategy in these kind of discussions. 

[milestone 11]

Sounds more like an opinion to me. Being firmly convinced of something and having evidence of such are far removed.

Edited by milestone 11, 05 August 2020 - 16:00.

[absinthedude]

What did they do during lockdown? I didn’t keep up with news and rumors.

 

Mercedes and other F1 teams designed and built medical ventilators and other medical devices to help with this pandemic thingy. Mercedes F1 in particular devoted their entire manufacturing facility to making ventilators and CPAP type devices which their design team had designed. They were ready to produce tens of thousands. I am unsure if they were ever actually needed but they still might be if the UK or other countries experience a second wave.

[OneAndOnly]

FIA says nobody made performance upgrades during lockdowns.
https://www.motorspo...pgrade/4844727/

That’s why I wrote despite, not during. Besides I think all teams worked to some extent during lockdown, but it can hardly be performance diferentiator in this case. All processes are created to be effective only in full capacity.

[Pete_f1]

Jan Lammers drove the famous Volvo estate car in the 1994 BTCC championship!

[gillesfan76]

Are the drivers still innocent if they know about illegal devices on their car?

 

I’m sure Alonso has an opinion on this.

[UraNage]

has Mercedes stopped cheating yet ?

 

 

Mercedes sent a complete set of brake ducts to Racing Point on Jan. 6th 2020.

 

[garoidb]

I’m sure Alonso has an opinion on this.

 

What illegal part was that, then?