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#1 TomNokoe

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 21:46

After an Austro-Hungarian jaunt to open the season, F1 returns after a mini-break to what feels like the first natural checkpoint. Teams and drivers have been able to take stock, dive into the data, and see where they stand after three, furious flyways driveaways

 

Now it's time for the teams to introduce upgrades, fine-tune their package, and let the drivers' confidence build.

 

Many in the paddock will be pleased that it's Silverstone that awaits us this week, close enough to home without feeling as frazzled as they would otherwise. Big shoutout to the F1 and team staff.

 

Welcome to Round 4 of the 2020 FIA Formula One World Championship.

 

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The Circuit

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This is the 10th anniversary (11th running) of the new, "Arena" layout, first introduced in 2010. A different challenge compared to Austria and Hungary, a circuit that rewards straight-line speed and aerodynamic efficiency. Sound ominous?

 

What happened last year?

 

 

Quite a lot, actually. The main highlight being the barnstorming battle between Verstappen and Leclerc.

 

What a great race!   Who said F1 is dead..  :lol:

 

The LeClerc Verstappen fight is exactly what Formula One needs. Two young talents going toe to toe.

 

Leclerc and Verstappen, my beautiful baby boys!

 

Leclerc will make Max regret that Austria move for the rest of his career. LOL.

 

Race director needs to be fired

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What will happen this year?  (new - in constructors' order!)

Mercedes' advantage over the rest was been laid bare, and there's an argument to say it could be even bigger this weekend. On paper, a circuit that suits the W11 perfectly. Hamilton starts his 14th British Grand Prix, which I believe puts him 1 behind DC and 3 behind JB in the "Most British Grand Prix raced by a British driver" stakes, and a stellar win record he holds. Bottas will be looking to fight back in the definitely-still-alive championship battle.

 

Red Bull will have been soul-searching after a Hungarian humbling. The slow-speed instability that has already plagued their season will likely be neutered by the track layout, but on the other hand, the last thing you want is a snap in the middle of Becketts. Also, the first proper test of the Honda PU as they fly down the Hangar Straight on Saturday afternoon. Verstappen will be hoping for better luck than the previous two years, both of which included a hefty trip into the gravel at Vale. Albon resets with a new-but-old race engineer, hoping to kickstart his season. And remember, Gasly was quite close to Max here last year.

 

McLaren is aiming to widen the Gulf between itself and the chasing midfield pack. After focussing on spare parts for the first trifecta of races, they arrive with a proper upgrade and optimism abound. If the opening gambit is anything to go by, Silverstone should suit them quite well. Lando is the talk of the town and may just steal the spotlight from Lewis. In typical team-mate prankster fashion, Sainz will try and spoil his home-race party!

 

Racing Point will be glad to see the back of a messy start. A circuit that will also suit them down to the ground. The very definition of a home-race. Perez has fought off a minor illness, but now has to fight off major rumours about his future. Stroll is racing a steady season and has one foot ahead of his more-experienced teammate.
 

It's difficult to write anything about Ferrari without being hopelessly pessimistic. Pre-race estimations would forecast a result amounting to annihilation this weekend. Now would be the time to surprise. Rumours of a B-Spec car have faded away. Leclerc will be doing very well if he can fight a Red Bull this year. This is the perennial bogey circuit for Vettel.

 

Renault's pre-season optimism is yet to materialise, only appearing in brief flashes. They will be quickly left behind if they cannot string a weekend together. Ferrari's pain might be Renault's gain in the fight for Q3. Ricciardo has been pedalling reasonably well so far, whereas Ocon desperately needs something to fall in his favour.

 

Alpha Tauri will be quietly encouraged but loudly frustrated by their inability to convert Austria 2 and Hungary into solid points. A circuit that has been so-so to them over the years. Gasly has shown great speed but has been very unlucky. Kvyat has performed better than I expected.

 

Alfa Romeo will be relieved to retain the upper-hand in their private Ferrari-customer battle against Haas. A circuit Kimi has always gone well at, he sounds reasonably confident in his pre-race quotes. Giovinazzi, too, has always run well here - whatever the formula - but will be hoping to avoid the same piece of gravel he found himself stranded in last year.

 

Haas will be licking their wounds after a harsh post-race penalty last time out. However, they seem to be edging away from Alfa in relative pace terms. It was at this race last year when Guenther gave both drivers a piece of his mind after needless first lap contact. Kevin has re-found favour. Grosjean will hope to avoid spinning at pit exit again.

 

Williams has surprised already, and will look toward familiar Silverstone ground, and halcyon days gone by, in their continuing climb back towards the pack. Upgrades that were successfully trialled in Austria and Hungary will be introduced to both cars. The Mercedes qualifying mode will allow them to fight for Q2 again. Russell needs to shine more on Sundays than Saturdays. Latifi has recovered reasonably well after a difficult start.

 

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Miscellaneous  (tyres, strategy, weather, etc.)

 

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The allocation of tyres doesn't change, but the compounds are a step harder compared to the first three races, C1 - C2 - C3. (This will change next week)

 

The compounds are the same as last year, so expect similar strategies, somewhere between a one and a two-stop.

 

A dry weekend is expected, with decreasing temperatures through until Sunday. A welcome change after recent downpours.

 

! SCHEDULE ALERT !

A reminder: FP1 and FP2 start one hour later than usual. This is always the case in Britain, I'm not sure why. The "normal" schedule returns for Saturday.

 

Depending on where your allegiances lie, you can check your time-zone on Autosport or F1.com.
 

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The Keys to the Weekend  (can anyone remember the poster who coined this phrase, was their username SR70? whatever happened to them ...)

 

Will Mercedes be just as dominant as feared?
Can Hamilton take his seventh Silverstone victory?

What effect will McLaren's upgrade have?

Can Racing Point string a proper weekend together?

Will Albon be closer to Max?

WHAT ABOUT FERRARI?!

 

and everything else that will unfold ...

 

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Predictions and general musings welcome below  :cat:


Edited by TomNokoe, 29 July 2020 - 17:30.


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#2 Danyy

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 21:50

I remember turning the tv off when Vettel drove into the back of Verstappen..good memories lol

Edited by Danyy, 29 July 2020 - 00:41.


#3 loki

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 22:18

The rest of the races should use only C1 compound tires.  Put them out on bowling balls.  That will separate the men from the boys.



#4 Beri

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 22:24

Somehow I'm not looking forward to this race.
To have a double header on a track where historically seen the current championship leader has done (very) well, doesn't bode well fo exciting races.

#5 Ivanhoe

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 22:26

Expecting two utterly boring dominant Mercedes 1-2’s. Not really looking forward to it. Might even accommodate Mrs. Ivanhoe and join her to the beach and just use the F1TV app, weather is looking good.


Edited by Ivanhoe, 28 July 2020 - 22:31.


#6 ARTGP

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 22:29

The rest of the races should use only C1 compound tires.  Put them out on bowling balls.  That will separate the men from the boys.

 

What about full wets...in the dry   :D


Edited by ARTGP, 28 July 2020 - 22:29.


#7 Astandahl

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 22:39

Unfortunately we won't get Max vs Charles part 2 which was the best battle of last year. Oh well maybe in 2022.

 

I'll skip this obvious snoozefest and go to the beach.



#8 GlenWatkins

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 23:56

Great job on the preview Tom!

I am looking forward to the race as I do every year at Silverstone where it all started!

#9 Gary Davies

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 03:55

I was about to post something when I noticed GlenWatkins' words above. Exactly... 100% what I was about to say. Thanks bro!



#10 vlado

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 05:17

It will be mazing to watch the W11 around this amazing track.. looking forward to that. 

 

The rest is pretty gloomy to be honest. 



#11 Laptom

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 06:33

Great track, but not for the current F1.
This will be 100% 1-2 Merc, possibly even a podium for the RP because RBR is back to the January spec car.
Hopefully Mclaren is in the mix.

I will be joining IvanHoe on the beach...

#12 Requiem84

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 06:35

Can RB keep up with the 2019 Mercedes here? ;)

#13 Jovanotti

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:32

No doubt this will be one for the fans with masochistic tendencies.

#14 jcbc3

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:38

I'm pretty certain doom and gloom was predicted last year too. And see how that turned out.

 

You're all talk. You'll be watching. 



#15 Widefoot2

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:42

What about full wets...in the dry   :D

Bring back narrow-section bias ply tires!  If it was good enough for the W125, it's good enough for the W11!

 

And how the heck is it "W11"?  Shouldn't it be W207 or something??



#16 AmonGods

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:45

Expecting two utterly boring dominant Mercedes 1-2’s. Not really looking forward to it. Might even accommodate Mrs. Ivanhoe and join her to the beach and just use the F1TV app, weather is looking good.

 

No doubt this will be one for the fans with masochistic tendencies.

 

 

I'll skip this obvious snoozefest and go to the beach.

 

And it's only wednesday  :rotfl:



#17 P123

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:47

Expecting two utterly boring dominant Mercedes 1-2’s. Not really looking forward to it. Might even accommodate Mrs. Ivanhoe and join her to the beach and just use the F1TV app, weather is looking good.

Maybe the second race weekend will have some rain.



#18 Ali623

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:58

I'll watch but I'm not looking forward to it.



#19 mangeliiito

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:16

Don’t worry, I’m working so it will be a banger.

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#20 sgtkate

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:22

As I said on another thread F1 does not stop at P2. Ignore the mercs driving into the sunset and watch the midfield scrap it out like they have every week so far.

#21 BRK

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:24

Nothing much to look forward to, same as any other race this season, ultra dominant Mercedes. I'll definitely catch the start, though. And curious to know if anything comes of the Mercedes engine rumours over the weekend.. 



#22 KevR

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:25

Season's over lads, let's face it. It'll be a dull race. I'll watch it cause a boring car/bike race is still a thousand times more exciting than a good game of football/basketball/ice hockey/etc.

I'd say Perez for the podium here, but after the rumours of him leaving and then suddenly being mysteriously slower than his teammate for the first time straight after (coincidence? i don't think so), I'd say it'll be Verstappen.

#23 jpm2019

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:27

they should go for C1-C3-C5 tyres. Would be fun. 



#24 Anja

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:27

I'm not expecting much from the top fight but I need that F1 fix and midfield should be fun as always. Not gonna lie, after three weekends in a row full of racing some fatigue was starting to set in but this short break was enough to again get me excited for another round. 



#25 Goron3

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:34

This will be the first time I've watched the British GP on TV since 2010. I've usually been at the circuit!

 

Hoping (HOPING) for Bottas to get pole and to at least give us a bit of excitement on Sunday.



#26 monolulu

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:50

Expecting two utterly boring dominant Mercedes 1-2’s. Not really looking forward to it. Might even accommodate Mrs. Ivanhoe and join her to the beach and just use the F1TV app, weather is looking good.

 

 

Unfortunately we won't get Max vs Charles part 2 which was the best battle of last year. Oh well maybe in 2022.

 

I'll skip this obvious snoozefest and go to the beach.

OMG the beaches are going to be crowded! What about social distancing?   ;)



#27 Burtros

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 08:55

Was hoping the FA cup final might follow so I could actually watch a ‘sporting contest’ this Sunday but see that’s on Saturday.

Let’s face it we have 3 **** races coming up and Mercedes can reasonably expect to 1-2 all of them barring a disaster.

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 09:26

OMG the beaches are going to be crowded! What about social distancing?  ;)


They'll be hastily looking for the closest beach bar at 3pm on Sunday only to be able to watch the 'snoozefest' ;)

#29 Ivanhoe

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 09:49

OMG the beaches are going to be crowded! What about social distancing?   ;)

Lol, was in a bad mood and a bit grumpy yesterday, haven’t made any promises yet and the mrs doesn’t read on this forum, so my beach plans are already canceled. For today that is   ;)



#30 ExFlagMan

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 09:59

Was hoping the FA cup final might follow so I could actually watch a ‘sporting contest’ this Sunday but see that’s on Saturday.

 

 

Always the BTCC opener - well at least the supports mostly tend towards being 'sporting contests'


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#31 Arundo

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:03

Looking forward to Silverstone but afraid Mercedes will be miles ahead and Redbull probably even struggling with team Copy Paste. Ferrari will be further away here in my opinion then in Hungary.

 

Mercedes can make a big jump here to secure the WDC for one of their drivers, probably Hamilton but I hope Bottas will give him some challenge. 


Edited by Arundo, 29 July 2020 - 10:04.


#32 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:15

I'll be around for qualifying but I'm spending my Sunday in the woods shooting arrows at plastic animals so no snoozefest for me. I'm actually sadder I'll miss the F2.



#33 as65p

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:16

The most interesting thing will probably ne Hamilton questioned about his Instagram shenanigans.



#34 SparkPlug86

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:20

I imagine Hamilton will win the next two rounds... more interested in the midfield fight. Its a shame the great British weather is not making an appearance. 



#35 Burtros

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:22

Always the BTCC opener - well at least the supports mostly tend towards being 'sporting contests'


That’s me sorted then. I recently deleted all my social media and it’s amazing how stuff passes you by without it - I had no idea it was restarting this weekend. Thanks for the heads up.

#36 andrewf1

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:23

If anyone is interested in buying a holiday home next to the track:
 

Twelve Architects designs holiday homes to overlook Silverstone race track
 
Twelve Architects has designed the 60-holiday-home Escapade Silverstone development that will directly overlook the race track at Silverstone – home of the British Grand Prix.
Set to be built on a site directly alongside the iconic race track that hosts Formula One's British Grand Prix, the development will consist of 60 holiday residences and a clubhouse aimed at motorsports enthusiasts.

 

 

https://www.dezeen.c...lve-architects/

 

Not sure what will come of it, but the design team is substantial, so it seems like a credible project.

Fancy that?

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#37 MJB5990

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:27

Wonder how many million those will go for?



#38 grunf77

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:31

Can RB keep up with the 2019 Mercedes here?  ;)

Only in pit lane.


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#39 ExFlagMan

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:39

The holiday homes might be a bit noisy as that bit of the track used quite heavily most weekends of the year, and also many days during the week.

 

Maybe Frank Sytner will buy one and his wife will complain about the noise.



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#40 SparkPlug86

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:54

Wonder how many million those will go for?

 

£1.5m each apparently. 



#41 Requiem84

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:55

Only in pit lane.


RB is ahead in the pitlane.

#42 grunf77

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:58

RB is ahead in the pitlane.

There you go!



#43 TomNokoe

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 11:02

Bit of an eyesore

 

Edit: don't tell this guy!

 

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#44 Anja

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 12:11

How long until the residents start complaining about the noise?



#45 Clatter

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 12:27

The holiday homes might be a bit noisy as that bit of the track used quite heavily most weekends of the year, and also many days during the week.

 

Maybe Frank Sytner will buy one and his wife will complain about the noise.

 


They may expect them to only be used one weekend a year. If I had that sort of money, it's not where I would buy a holiday home.

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 12:47

As I said on another thread F1 does not stop at P2. Ignore the mercs driving into the sunset and watch the midfield scrap it out like they have every week so far.

 

The only thing remarkable about your statement Kate, is that it needs be said. There is great racing behind the Mercs. Do y'all only watch soccer/football, when it's the top two teams going at it.



#47 renzmann

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 13:20

Domination will be redefined, I guess. If nothing weird happens, this will be 1. W11, 2. W11, 3. RP, 4. RP two times in a row. We've gotten to the point where Lance Stroll is getting compliments.



#48 Ben1445

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 13:26

They may expect them to only be used one weekend a year. If I had that sort of money, it's not where I would buy a holiday home.

How long until the residents start complaining about the noise?

As far as I can tell from the brochure they're less so permanent residencies more a plaything-second-home/income-generator investment for people who can afford that kind of thing...


Edited by Ben1445, 29 July 2020 - 13:29.


#49 Garndell

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 15:11

I have seen those homes before, in Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint, hardly original designs.  I also believe they are "tokened" out during events or something.



#50 Pimpwerx

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 15:39

I'm cautiously optimistic for Lewis and the Mercs. I don't want to assume too much. While this looks like a circuit they should absolutely wipe the competition, I don't really know what Red Bull and Ferrari have done to remedy their issues. The former worries me more than the latter. Personally, I'd love to see a wet weekend, as Silverstone is a legit awesome circuit. It's amazing to see it host 2 races in a season, when it seemed to be under threat of eviction every year Bernie was in charge.

 

I see some saying they'll skip the weekend, but I seriously doubt that. The midfield has been really fun this season, and now you're combining that competitiveness with one of the best tracks on the calendar. I'm hoping for 2 fun races in a row.

Thanks to the OP for the quote. I wouldn't mind seeing those 2 scrapping here again this weekend.