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#1 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 20:37

This year they are celebrating 70 years of F1, and although there have been a lot of changes, it still resembles F1 in the 90’s for me - the cars/engines are quite different, but they are still petrol (+ hybrid) engines and the cars aren’t a world apart from 30yrs back when I started watching (I know in motorsport terms they are - but put them next to each other and they are still both ‘F1’ to me)

In 2050, another 30 years on from now, I’ll have been watching f1 for 60 years and they’ll be celebrating 100 years since that first race.

What changes do you anticipate over the next 30 years? I’ll be retired so hoping for something decent to watch on a Sunday....

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#2 EvilPhil II

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 20:39

It will be long dead together with the need to drive a car on the road. 



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 20:43

It will be long dead together with the need to drive a car on the road.


I wonder if it could go back to ‘garagista’ sort of setup though, where the cars have high power petrol engines as something for ‘traditionalists’ to enjoy with their electric cars in the driveways (or on the roof or whatever - it’ll be the future!)

Maybe the road relevance of F1 will be finally knocked on the head, and we can go back to having balls-out racing

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 20:49

I wonder if it could go back to ‘garagista’ sort of setup though, where the cars have high power petrol engines as something for ‘traditionalists’ to enjoy with their electric cars in the driveways (or on the roof or whatever - it’ll be the future!)

Maybe the road relevance of F1 will be finally knocked on the head, and we can go back to having balls-out racing

 

Perhaps if it becomes a hobbyist sport for the rich. Its a sad thought but if you look at where this is all going with Tesla and VW then F1 probably has about 5-10 years. 

 

Formula E which presently is a joke COULD fill the void but I dont think EV racing will ever bring the same audience or create the same emotions as ICE racing. Lack of noise, no smells, it is devoid of any danger these days too.. 

 

What I think we best do is enjoy the final years of F1 before the manufactures pull out together with their partners (all other sponsors) and the small teams collapse shortly after the big teams quit. 



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:01

Then the only hope is that when Formula E lose their exclusivity of being an electric series, that F1 are able to come up with some sort of powertrain that can give comparable performance to today’s machines. People long for the V10 days to be back, but today’s cars would absolutely spank those cars and engines. Perhaps eventually a truly viable electric alternative that doesn’t need to trundle round street circuits will actually arrive. Car fans will always want to see cars being raced in anger and I can’t see all motorsport vanishing

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:11

I don't think F1 will have stopped existing or turned electric. I think it'll no longer have mainstream major car manufacturers like Mercedes, Renault and Honda though - they'll leave for electric racing, or leave motorsports altogether. Maybe it'll have some supercar manufacturers like Ferrari, Mclaren, Aston, presumably the likes of Porsche, Lamborghini etc, but also quite possibly only privateer entries.

Another serious possibility is F1 going full spec series mode. A faster, road course based Indycar.

There is likely going to be a split between F1 and the development of "clean" technology, maybe any power unit technology development at all. It may adapt a standard, highly efficient power unit that every team has to use, and leave it at that, rather than seeking the latest cleanest technology and throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at it.

Edited by noikeee, 02 August 2020 - 21:13.


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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:21

Probably a lot of private teams owned by billionaires eg. Stroll, who own the team just because they can.

 

Doesn't bother me, as long as I don't have to watch open wheel racing that sounds like a hearing aid.



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:22

Red Bull will be expected to mount a challenge after a promising pre-season.


Edited by Yamamoto, 02 August 2020 - 21:22.


#9 taz

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:34

Lewis Hamilton just won his 37th world championship, and is thinking about retirement at the age of 65, but decides to give it a go for yet another year. Bottas v34.4c is hoping to challenge him next season.



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:41

I don't think F1 will have stopped existing or turned electric. I think it'll no longer have mainstream major car manufacturers like Mercedes, Renault and Honda though - they'll leave for electric racing, or leave motorsports altogether. Maybe it'll have some supercar manufacturers like Ferrari, Mclaren, Aston, presumably the likes of Porsche, Lamborghini etc, but also quite possibly only privateer entries.

Another serious possibility is F1 going full spec series mode. A faster, road course based Indycar.

There is likely going to be a split between F1 and the development of "clean" technology, maybe any power unit technology development at all. It may adapt a standard, highly efficient power unit that every team has to use, and leave it at that, rather than seeking the latest cleanest technology and throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at it.


I actually think that there won't be any split. Possibly a merge of F1 and Formula E.. over time people will become more accepting of the need for a more 'green' racing series.. and F1 would have to continue to evolve in that direction. Like the saying goes....evolve or evaporate.

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 21:59

It will be long dead together with the need to drive a car on the road. 

 

If F1 isn't around or there is no global equivalent to replace it, the world is going to be ****ed.



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:03

If F1 isn't around or there is no global equivalent to replace it, the world is going to be ****ed.

 

Even if there are still cars racing around, all series are going to converge into one or two popular ones and the rest diversify into a bunch of small, underfunded enthusiast hobbies.



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:16

30 years is kind of a long scope. Maybe we'll all spend most of our lives in the skynet in 2050, judging by the speed computers, Internet and social media has taken over now. We already had esports F1 events during the spring and obviously racing sims could be order of magnitude better several decades forward, so who knows what will happen.



#14 Ferrim

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:29

It'll probably change more than it has changed since 1990. Or maybe not...

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:33

I don't think F1 will have stopped existing or turned electric. I think it'll no longer have mainstream major car manufacturers like Mercedes, Renault and Honda though - they'll leave for electric racing, or leave motorsports altogether. Maybe it'll have some supercar manufacturers like Ferrari, Mclaren, Aston, presumably the likes of Porsche, Lamborghini etc, but also quite possibly only privateer entries.

Another serious possibility is F1 going full spec series mode. A faster, road course based Indycar.

There is likely going to be a split between F1 and the development of "clean" technology, maybe any power unit technology development at all. It may adapt a standard, highly efficient power unit that every team has to use, and leave it at that, rather than seeking the latest cleanest technology and throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at it.

Once the road car manufacturers leave, they can go back to a PU that doesn’t price independents out of developing or sourcing their own.



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:37

Everyone will have accepted the inevitable, and the grid will be made up entirely of Mercs. By the sport will be known as Formula Mercedes, and the only talking point ahead of a race weekend will be which coloured Mercedes will win.



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:46

I don't think F1 will have stopped existing or turned electric. I think it'll no longer have mainstream major car manufacturers like Mercedes, Renault and Honda though - they'll leave for electric racing, or leave motorsports altogether. Maybe it'll have some supercar manufacturers like Ferrari, Mclaren, Aston, presumably the likes of Porsche, Lamborghini etc, but also quite possibly only privateer entries.

Another serious possibility is F1 going full spec series mode. A faster, road course based Indycar.


Why do you think major mainstream manufacturers will leave? How many of them sell V6 turbos today?

#18 Bloggsworth

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 22:53

A woman will still not have been given a drive in a frontline team...



#19 HeadFirst

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 23:32

A woman will still not have been given a drive in a frontline team...

 

Possibly, but perhaps several frontline F1 teams will be owned by successful business women.  



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#20 Spillage

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 23:46

It will be long dead together with the need to drive a car on the road.

I think motor racing will be a bit like chess in this regard. Though machines have been able to outperform humans for a long time, the sport remains interesting and as popular as ever. It's the human element that makes it interesting.

Edited by Spillage, 02 August 2020 - 23:46.


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Posted 03 August 2020 - 00:35

I don't think Greta and her foundation will extend the permission to race.