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#1 Makarias

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Posted 06 September 2020 - 20:37

The standings after Belgium:

Pos Name                  Tot Latest
1)  Kev00                 701 101
=   KWSN-DSM              701 101
=   M2000-5               701 101
=   mark f1               701 101
=   SpaceHorseParty       701 101
6)  GTA                   698  98
7)  jjcale                696  96
8)  scheivlak             695  99
9)  Brawn BGP 001         693  99
10) thegforcemaybewithyou 692  93
11) fisichella_2001       690  99
12) f1paul                688  99
=   Makarias              688  97
14) DutchQuicksilver      687  94
15) Marklar               685  95
=   thequadge             685  99
17) Bleu                  664  95
I've had to re-scale all entries for a 17-race season. The "latest" scores above are based on these entries and may not match up with old scores reported earlier.

The entries

The following list shows the maximum, average ("popularity poll") and minimum bets on each driver. Column "Diff" is Popularity Poll difference to 2019, when there were 21 races.
Name  Max  Pop  Min  Diff
Hami  320  293  240  - 31
Vers  302  244  210  -  6
Bott  294  229  196  + 14
Lecl  271  191  145  - 92
Vett  205  169   80  -169
Albo  186  146  114  +128
Pere  110   77   52  + 38
Sain   94   68   50  + 23
Ricc   75   55   35  - 38
Norr   84   52   38  + 22
Stro   85   42    9  + 22
Ocon   56   41   23  + 41
Gasl   50   32   14  -123
Räik   39   22    8  - 35
Kvya   37   21   12  +- 0
Magn   41   13    2  - 43
Giov   19   10    5  - 24
Gros   15    8    1  - 53
Russ    8    3    0  +  1
Lati    3    1    0  +  1

Popularity Poll WCC prediction:
Team   Pts  Diff
Merc   522  - 17
RBR    390  - 15
Ferr   360  -261
McLa   120  + 45
RPoi   119  + 60
Rena    96  - 76
ATau    53  + 14
Alfa    32  - 59
Haas    21  - 96
Will     4  +  1

If the Popularity Poll turns out to be a 100% correct prediction (it won't), the final standings would look like this:
Pos Name              Tot
1)  GTA                  1652
2)  mark f1              1650
3)  DutchQuicksilver     1641
4)  scheivlak            1637
5)  Makarias             1631
6)  fisichella_2001      1629
7)  Brawn BGP 001        1623
8)  KWSN-DSM             1622
9)  Bleu                 1619
=   Marklar              1619
11) Kev00                1612
12) M2000-5              1603
13) thegforcemaybewithyou1595
14) jjcale               1577
15) f1paul               1574
16) thequadge            1570
17) SpaceHorseParty      1549

The Drivers' list
Driver Expect  Surprise Beat
           %        %     #
Hülk     INF     600,0   17   
Stro     98,8     48,8   11
Norr     84,4     51,8    8
Ocon     63,4     45,6    1
Ricc     58,4     42,1    1
Gasl     56,6     35,3    1
Hami     52,8     48,3    0
Bott     46,3     35,9    0
Vers     44,7     36,0    0
Pere     43,0     29,7    0
Albo     32,9     25,7    0
Sain     32,2     23,2    0
Lecl     23,6     16,5    0
Giov     19,9     10,0    0
Vett      9,5      7,8    0
Kvya      9,4      5,3    0
Magn      7,5      2,4    0
With the recalculated entries you need more points to beat expectations and guesses, so suddenly Lance Stroll hasn't beaten his expectations yet. Maybe at Monza?

EXPLANATIONS:
Expect: Expectation fulfillment. The driver's current points score as a percentage of the average points placed on him (not rounded off to integer points)
Surprise: The driver's points score as a percentage of the maximum points placed on him plus one. When this number is reached, the driver has achieved a 100% surprise, by beating the highest expectations on him for this season.
Beat: How many players' expectations the driver has managed to beat. The maximum amount is the number of entrants for the season; for 2019 this is 23.

Guesses on P1-P5:
Hamilton               Bottas                 Verstappen             Ricciardo              Ocon                
* Potential     405    * Potential     356    * Potential     359    * Potential     282    * Potential     276
* Forecast      376    Kev00           294    Bleu            302    * Forecast       78    * Forecast       63
Makarias        320    * Forecast      257    Marklar         289    f1paul           75    f1paul           56
thegforcemaybewi317    jjcale          254    * Forecast      265    thequadge        71    Brawn BGP 001    49
GTA             315    SpaceHorseParty 252    M2000-5         260    SpaceHorseParty  68    KWSN-DSM         49
jjcale          313    DutchQuicksilver247    Brawn BGP 001   257    Brawn BGP 001    66    scheivlak        49
Brawn BGP 001   312    GTA             236    f1paul          251    scheivlak        63    thequadge        49
M2000-5         311    Marklar         236    thequadge       249    KWSN-DSM         60    SpaceHorseParty  48
DutchQuicksilver310    Makarias        233    GTA             247    fisichella_2001  56    mark f1          46
KWSN-DSM        307    Bleu            232    scheivlak       243    Makarias         54    Marklar          44
SpaceHorseParty 296    thegforcemaybewi224    fisichella_2001 242    mark f1          54    fisichella_2001  43
scheivlak       290    Brawn BGP 001   219    DutchQuicksilver237    Marklar          52    DutchQuicksilver 42
Bleu            285    mark f1         216    mark f1         232    M2000-5          51    Bleu             38
Kev00           285    scheivlak       216    SpaceHorseParty 232    Bleu             48    M2000-5          37
Marklar         283    M2000-5         214    Makarias        230    thegforcemaybewi 48    Kev00            33
fisichella_2001 282    thequadge       212    Kev00           225    DutchQuicksilver 45    Makarias         32
mark f1         282    fisichella_2001 209    thegforcemaybewi224    GTA              45    jjcale           30
f1paul          242    KWSN-DSM        200    jjcale          215    Kev00            40    thegforcemaybewi 29
thequadge       240    f1paul          196    KWSN-DSM        210    jjcale           35    * Current        26
* Current       155    * Current       106    * Current       109    * Current        32    GTA              23
Here you can see some of your recalculated guesses. See how they shimmer under soft lighting.

Guesses on P6-P10:
Albon                  Norris                 Gasly                  Stroll                 Perez               
* Potential     298    * Potential     294    * Potential     268    * Potential     292    * Potential     283
SpaceHorseParty 186    * Forecast      107    scheivlak        50    * Forecast      102    jjcale          110
f1paul          184    M2000-5          84    thegforcemaybewi 46    SpaceHorseParty  85    SpaceHorseParty 104
Marklar         173    Brawn BGP 001    68    * Forecast       44    jjcale           78    Kev00            84
KWSN-DSM        158    f1paul           63    Kev00            39    Kev00            65    Bleu             82
M2000-5         157    scheivlak        62    KWSN-DSM         39    M2000-5          53    Makarias         82
GTA             155    Bleu             59    jjcale           36    KWSN-DSM         51    KWSN-DSM         81
Makarias        148    SpaceHorseParty  58    mark f1          35    GTA              50    DutchQuicksilver 80
Bleu            143    KWSN-DSM         57    GTA              34    mark f1          43    * Forecast       80
mark f1         143    Kev00            50    fisichella_2001  32    * Current        42    M2000-5          79
Kev00           141    fisichella_2001  49    SpaceHorseParty  32    thegforcemaybewi 39    GTA              78
fisichella_2001 134    GTA              46    thequadge        32    scheivlak        36    scheivlak        77
Brawn BGP 001   132    mark f1          46    DutchQuicksilver 30    Brawn BGP 001    34    Marklar          72
DutchQuicksilver131    thequadge        46    Brawn BGP 001    28    DutchQuicksilver 33    f1paul           70
scheivlak       128    * Current        44    M2000-5          26    fisichella_2001  31    thequadge        67
thequadge       127    Makarias         42    f1paul           23    Makarias         31    mark f1          66
thegforcemaybewi124    Marklar          40    Marklar          23    Marklar          30    Brawn BGP 001    62
* Forecast      117    DutchQuicksilver 39    Makarias         22    f1paul           29    thegforcemaybewi 58
jjcale          114    jjcale           39    * Current        18    thequadge        26    fisichella_2001  52
* Current        48    thegforcemaybewi 38    Bleu             14    Bleu              9    * Current        33
The difference to the previously posted guesses in these columns is roughly a 13% increase, ie going to 17 races from 15.

The PTPC forecast
Name               Forecast  +/-
SpaceHorseParty      1481,4 -26,2
M2000-5              1445,3 -31,7
Brawn BGP 001        1424,9 -19,0
scheivlak            1410,0 -18,3
jjcale               1406,4 -31,9
Kev00                1404,9 -28,1
GTA                  1404,3 -26,0
DutchQuicksilver     1392,9 -23,5
KWSN-DSM             1383,4 -26,2
Marklar              1375,0 -32,7
Makarias             1374,4 -30,9
Bleu                 1360,1 -35,9
mark f1              1350,3 -27,4
thegforcemaybewithyou1347,6 -19,4
f1paul               1335,3  -3,4
fisichella_2001      1326,3 -32,4
thequadge            1322,3 -10,0
Forecasts took a hit from the crappy result for Ferrari.

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#2 Makarias

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Posted 06 September 2020 - 20:39

Just for comparison, the Belgium scoring as done previously, for fifteen races...

 

The standings after Belgium with fifteen-race entries:

Pos Name                  Tot Latest
1)  Kev00                 701 101
=   KWSN-DSM              701 101
=   M2000-5               701 101
=   SpaceHorseParty       701 101
5)  mark f1               693  96
6)  GTA                   692  92
7)  jjcale                691  94
=   scheivlak             691  99
9)  Brawn BGP 001         689  99
10) fisichella_2001       686  99
11) f1paul                685  99
12) thegforcemaybewithyou 682  93
13) Makarias              679  93
=   thequadge             679  96
15) DutchQuicksilver      678  93
16) Marklar               676  93
17) Bleu                  661  95
...

The entries
 
The Drivers' list
Driver Expect  Surprise Beat
           %        %     #
Hülk     INF     600,0   17
Stro    112,3     55,3   11
Norr     95,7     58,7    8
Ocon     71,8     51,0    1
Ricc     66,0     47,8    1
Gasl     64,4     40,0    1
Hami     59,8     54,8    0
Bott     52,5     40,6    0
Vers     50,7     40,7    0
Pere     48,8     33,7    0
Albo     37,4     29,1    0
Sain     36,5     26,2    0
Lecl     26,7     18,8    0
Giov     22,7     11,8    0
Kvya     10,8      5,9    0
Vett     10,7      8,8    0
Magn      8,5      2,7    0
...

EXPLANATIONS:
Expect: Expectation fulfillment. The driver's current points score as a percentage of the average points placed on him (not rounded off to integer points)
Surprise: The driver's points score as a percentage of the maximum points placed on him plus one. When this number is reached, the driver has achieved a 100% surprise, by beating the highest expectations on him for this season.
Beat: How many players' expectations the driver has managed to beat. The maximum amount is the number of entrants for the season; for 2019 this is 23.


Guesses on P1-P5:
Hamilton               Bottas                 Verstappen             Ricciardo              Ocon                
* Potential     355    * Potential     306    * Potential     309    * Potential     232    * Potential     226
* Forecast      332    Kev00           260    Bleu            267    * Forecast       69    * Forecast       56
Makarias        282    * Forecast      227    Marklar         255    f1paul           66    f1paul           50
thegforcemaybewi280    jjcale          224    * Forecast      234    thequadge        63    Brawn BGP 001    44
GTA             278    SpaceHorseParty 222    M2000-5         229    SpaceHorseParty  60    KWSN-DSM         43
jjcale          276    DutchQuicksilver218    Brawn BGP 001   226    Brawn BGP 001    58    scheivlak        43
Brawn BGP 001   275    GTA             208    f1paul          222    scheivlak        56    thequadge        43
M2000-5         275    Marklar         208    thequadge       220    KWSN-DSM         53    SpaceHorseParty  42
DutchQuicksilver273    Makarias        206    GTA             218    fisichella_2001  50    mark f1          41
KWSN-DSM        271    Bleu            204    scheivlak       215    Makarias         48    Marklar          39
SpaceHorseParty 261    thegforcemaybewi198    fisichella_2001 213    mark f1          48    fisichella_2001  38
scheivlak       256    Brawn BGP 001   193    DutchQuicksilver209    Marklar          46    DutchQuicksilver 37
Bleu            252    mark f1         191    mark f1         205    M2000-5          45    Bleu             33
Kev00           252    scheivlak       191    SpaceHorseParty 205    Bleu             42    M2000-5          33
Marklar         250    M2000-5         189    Makarias        203    thegforcemaybewi 42    Kev00            29
fisichella_2001 249    thequadge       187    Kev00           198    DutchQuicksilver 40    Makarias         29
mark f1         249    fisichella_2001 185    thegforcemaybewi198    GTA              40    jjcale           26
f1paul          214    KWSN-DSM        177    jjcale          190    Kev00            36    thegforcemaybewi 26
thequadge       212    f1paul          173    KWSN-DSM        185    * Current        32    * Current        26
* Current       155    * Current       106    * Current       109    jjcale           31    GTA              20
...

Guesses on P6-P10:
Albon                  Norris                 Gasly                  Stroll                 Perez               
* Potential     248    * Potential     244    * Potential     218    * Potential     242    * Potential     233
SpaceHorseParty 164    * Forecast       94    scheivlak        44    * Forecast       90    jjcale           97
f1paul          162    M2000-5          74    thegforcemaybewi 41    SpaceHorseParty  75    SpaceHorseParty  92
Marklar         152    Brawn BGP 001    60    * Forecast       39    jjcale           69    Kev00            74
KWSN-DSM        139    f1paul           56    Kev00            34    Kev00            57    Bleu             73
M2000-5         138    scheivlak        54    KWSN-DSM         34    M2000-5          47    KWSN-DSM         72
GTA             136    Bleu             52    jjcale           32    KWSN-DSM         45    Makarias         72
Makarias        130    SpaceHorseParty  51    mark f1          31    GTA              44    * Forecast       71
Bleu            126    KWSN-DSM         50    GTA              30    * Current        42    DutchQuicksilver 70
mark f1         126    fisichella_2001  44    fisichella_2001  28    mark f1          37    M2000-5          70
Kev00           124    Kev00            44    SpaceHorseParty  28    thegforcemaybewi 34    GTA              69
fisichella_2001 119    * Current        44    thequadge        28    scheivlak        32    scheivlak        68
Brawn BGP 001   117    GTA              41    DutchQuicksilver 27    Brawn BGP 001    30    Marklar          64
DutchQuicksilver116    mark f1          41    Brawn BGP 001    24    DutchQuicksilver 29    f1paul           61
scheivlak       112    thequadge        41    M2000-5          22    fisichella_2001  27    thequadge        59
thequadge       112    Makarias         37    f1paul           20    Makarias         27    mark f1          58
thegforcemaybewi109    jjcale           35    Makarias         20    f1paul           26    Brawn BGP 001    54
* Forecast      103    Marklar          35    Marklar          20    Marklar          26    thegforcemaybewi 51
jjcale          100    DutchQuicksilver 34    * Current        18    thequadge        23    fisichella_2001  46
* Current        48    thegforcemaybewi 33    Bleu             12    Bleu              8    * Current        33
...

The PTPC forecast
Name               Forecast  +/-
SpaceHorseParty      1306,1 -23,9
M2000-5              1275,4 -28,6
Brawn BGP 001        1255,3 -16,2
scheivlak            1245,0 -16,0
jjcale               1241,1 -28,9
GTA                  1239,4 -22,6
Kev00                1239,3 -24,7
DutchQuicksilver     1228,3 -20,7
KWSN-DSM             1220,1 -23,9
Makarias             1214,1 -26,9
Marklar              1213,0 -29,0
Bleu                 1198,7 -32,3
mark f1              1192,4 -23,6
thegforcemaybewithyou1188,9 -17,1
f1paul               1179,4  -2,6
fisichella_2001      1171,4 -28,6
thequadge            1167,4  -8,6
...

#3 Makarias

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Posted 06 September 2020 - 20:39

The standings after Italy:

Pos Name                  Tot Latest
1)  Kev00                 792  91
=   KWSN-DSM              792  91
3)  SpaceHorseParty       791  90
4)  M2000-5               781  80
=   scheivlak             781  86
6)  jjcale                773  77
7)  mark f1               770  69
8)  GTA                   769  71
9)  thegforcemaybewithyou 765  73
10) Brawn BGP 001         764  71
11) fisichella_2001       758  68
12) f1paul                754  66
13) thequadge             750  65
14) DutchQuicksilver      748  61
15) Makarias              741  53
16) Marklar               739  54
17) Bleu                  725  61
I DEMAND A RECOUNT

The entries


The Drivers' list
Driver Expect  Surprise Beat
           %        %     #
Hülk     INF     600,0   17   
Gasl    135,1     84,3   15
Stro    134,0     66,3   14
Norr    107,4     65,9   10
Ocon     73,2     52,6    2
Ricc     73,0     52,6    1
Sain     58,5     42,1    0
Hami     54,8     50,2    0
Bott     50,7     39,3    0
Vers     44,7     36,0    0
Pere     44,3     30,6    0
Albo     32,9     25,7    0
Lecl     23,6     16,5    0
Giov     19,9     10,0    0
Kvya     18,9     10,5    0
Vett      9,5      7,8    0
Magn      7,5      2,4    0
Congratulations to Pierre Gasly, Lance Stroll and Lando Norris who become the first, second and third full season drivers to beat their expectations!

EXPLANATIONS:
Expect: Expectation fulfillment. The driver's current points score as a percentage of the average points placed on him (not rounded off to integer points)
Surprise: The driver's points score as a percentage of the maximum points placed on him plus one. When this number is reached, the driver has achieved a 100% surprise, by beating the highest expectations on him for this season.
Beat: How many players' expectations the driver has managed to beat. The maximum amount is the number of entrants for the season; for 2019 this is 23.

Guesses on P1-P5:
Gasly                  Sainz                  Stroll                 Norris                 Bottas              
* Potential     268    * Potential     265    * Potential     282    * Potential     281    * Potential     341
* Forecast       91    Brawn BGP 001    94    * Forecast      121    * Forecast      119    Kev00           294
scheivlak        50    M2000-5          92    SpaceHorseParty  85    M2000-5          84    jjcale          254
thegforcemaybewi 46    * Forecast       85    jjcale           78    Brawn BGP 001    68    SpaceHorseParty 252
* Current        43    f1paul           84    Kev00            65    f1paul           63    * Forecast      247
Kev00            39    fisichella_2001  81    * Current        57    scheivlak        62    DutchQuicksilver247
KWSN-DSM         39    Bleu             79    M2000-5          53    Bleu             59    GTA             236
jjcale           36    scheivlak        73    KWSN-DSM         51    SpaceHorseParty  58    Marklar         236
mark f1          35    SpaceHorseParty  72    GTA              50    KWSN-DSM         57    Makarias        233
GTA              34    Kev00            71    mark f1          43    * Current        56    Bleu            232
fisichella_2001  32    KWSN-DSM         69    thegforcemaybewi 39    Kev00            50    thegforcemaybewi224
SpaceHorseParty  32    Marklar          61    scheivlak        36    fisichella_2001  49    Brawn BGP 001   219
thequadge        32    Makarias         59    Brawn BGP 001    34    GTA              46    mark f1         216
DutchQuicksilver 30    mark f1          58    DutchQuicksilver 33    mark f1          46    scheivlak       216
Brawn BGP 001    28    thequadge        58    fisichella_2001  31    thequadge        46    M2000-5         214
M2000-5          26    GTA              56    Makarias         31    Makarias         42    thequadge       212
f1paul           23    DutchQuicksilver 53    Marklar          30    Marklar          40    fisichella_2001 209
Marklar          23    jjcale           52    f1paul           29    DutchQuicksilver 39    KWSN-DSM        200
Makarias         22    thegforcemaybewi 50    thequadge        26    jjcale           39    f1paul          196
Bleu             14    * Current        40    Bleu              9    thegforcemaybewi 38    * Current       116
Suddenly Gasly only needs eight more points for a 100% surprise,

Guesses on P6-P10:
Ricciardo              Hamilton               Ocon                   Kvyat                  Perez               
* Potential     265    * Potential     386    * Potential     255    * Potential     229    * Potential     259
* Forecast       85    * Forecast      342    * Forecast       64    scheivlak        37    jjcale          110
f1paul           75    Makarias        320    f1paul           56    thegforcemaybewi 31    SpaceHorseParty 104
thequadge        71    thegforcemaybewi317    Brawn BGP 001    49    jjcale           30    Kev00            84
SpaceHorseParty  68    GTA             315    KWSN-DSM         49    mark f1          27    Bleu             82
Brawn BGP 001    66    jjcale          313    scheivlak        49    SpaceHorseParty  23    Makarias         82
scheivlak        63    Brawn BGP 001   312    thequadge        49    fisichella_2001  22    KWSN-DSM         81
KWSN-DSM         60    M2000-5         311    SpaceHorseParty  48    Kev00            21    DutchQuicksilver 80
fisichella_2001  56    DutchQuicksilver310    mark f1          46    f1paul           19    M2000-5          79
Makarias         54    KWSN-DSM        307    Marklar          44    KWSN-DSM         19    GTA              78
mark f1          54    SpaceHorseParty 296    fisichella_2001  43    M2000-5          19    scheivlak        77
Marklar          52    scheivlak       290    DutchQuicksilver 42    Bleu             18    * Forecast       72
M2000-5          51    Bleu            285    Bleu             38    DutchQuicksilver 18    Marklar          72
Bleu             48    Kev00           285    M2000-5          37    GTA              18    f1paul           70
thegforcemaybewi 48    Marklar         283    Kev00            33    Marklar          18    thequadge        67
DutchQuicksilver 45    fisichella_2001 282    Makarias         32    Brawn BGP 001    16    mark f1          66
GTA              45    mark f1         282    jjcale           30    Makarias         12    Brawn BGP 001    62
Kev00            40    f1paul          242    * Current        30    thequadge        12    thegforcemaybewi 58
* Current        40    thequadge       240    thegforcemaybewi 29    * Forecast        9    fisichella_2001  52
jjcale           35    * Current       161    GTA              23    * Current         4    * Current        34
Ricciardo beats his lowest guess. More to come.

The PTPC forecast
Name               Forecast  +/-
SpaceHorseParty      1455,9 -25,6
M2000-5              1411,4 -33,9
Brawn BGP 001        1401,0 -23,9
scheivlak            1389,4 -20,6
Kev00                1373,3 -31,6
jjcale               1363,3 -43,2
KWSN-DSM             1360,8 -22,7
GTA                  1355,4 -48,9
DutchQuicksilver     1348,9 -44,0
Makarias             1341,8 -32,7
mark f1              1324,1 -26,2
thegforcemaybewithyou1319,5 -28,1
Marklar              1319,1 -55,9
f1paul               1316,1 -19,2
Bleu                 1314,4 -45,8
fisichella_2001      1313,1 -13,2
thequadge            1279,1 -43,2
A massive points shift towards Gasly when Verstappen DNFs isn't good for these predictions. SpaceHorseParty looks solid up front.