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[Retrofly]

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Ahead of Aston Martin’s long-awaited return to the Formula 1 grid in 2021, we are delighted to confirm that four-time World Champion Sebastian Vettel has signed up to join the team.

Edited by Retrofly, 10 September 2020 - 07:12.

[RedBaron]

This subject has been discussed to death already.

 

Let's just appreciate the discuss joke  

[SenorSjon]

What can I say... Underwhelming from Red Bull, leaving Max out alone for another year to battle both Mercedes.

[Jovanotti]

Let's hope Vettel has thought of an equal machinery clause in his contract...

[Clatter]

Let's hope Vettel has thought of an equal machinery clause in his contract...

Because all the evidence points to them not doing so?

[Baddoer]

Love how Otmar stated  Vettel has been never considered.

[kosmos]

For a second I thought it will be funny if Stroll beats him but I doubt it. Good luck to him, I hope he drives well there with less pressure.

[Lights]

Let's hope Vettel has thought of an equal machinery clause in his contract...

 

4th post and we have the first excuse already!

[PlayboyRacer]

Let's hope Vettel has thought of an equal machinery clause in his contract...

Such nonsense.

Vettel would want to annihilate young Lance. Otherwise the critics might have a point.

[SophieB]

@wtf1official

Just imagine if Vettel gets announced at Racing Point this weekend and it totally overshadows the Ferrari 1000th Grand Prix celebration?

 

[Marklar]

For a second I thought it will be funny if Stroll beats him but I doubt it. Good luck to him, I hope he drives well there with less pressure.

Stroll has a tendeny to luck into good results. He nearly beat Massa in 2017 although he was completely dominated. And he is beating Perez now although the last couple of races he finished mostly ahead due to luck as well. Not saying that he has been just lucky or anything, but if that holds against Vettel, combined with possible paranoia about prefered treatment and considering that the RP is a low rake car and if Stroll continues to improve I wouldnt rule that out.

I doubt it as well though.

Edited by Marklar, 10 September 2020 - 07:24.

[SB]

Hello Irvine 2.0 ! 

[shure]

Glad Vettel has a drive for next year and I do think he's an upgrade on Perez (the crappy year he's having so far notwithstanding), but a part of me is a little disappointed that Red Bull didn't take the plunge for their second seat.  

[SenorSjon]

@wtf1official

Just imagine if Vettel gets announced at Racing Point this weekend and it totally overshadows the Ferrari 1000th Grand Prix celebration?

 










Level 1:[/size]Just imagine if Vettel gets announced at Racing Point this weekend and it totally overshadows the Ferrari 1000th Grand Prix celebration?[/size]

 

He want Ferrari to mess that one up all by themselves.

[PayasYouRace]

As I said in the silly season thread, he’ll probably get his mojo back by being the lead driver at Aston Martin. Makes much more sense for him than going back to Red Bull to face Verstappen.

[Mc_Silver]

Love how Otmar stated Vettel has been never considered.

LOL

[Rodaknee]

How many have driven for 3 sneaky teams on the trot?

[Ivanhoe]

Logical and sensible. Happy for Seb, could think of others we could do without on the grid. 

[pitlanepalpatine]

How many have driven for 3 sneaky teams on the trot?

 

I wouldn't really call the plodding elephant in the room that's Ferrari subterfuge sneaky.

[PlayboyRacer]

Glad Vettel has a drive for next year and I do think he's an upgrade on Perez (the crappy year he's having so far notwithstanding), but a part of me is a little disappointed that Red Bull didn't take the plunge for their second seat.

Agreed. Think Red Bull missed a big opportunity here for a strong pairing and an experienced champion that can help make that car better. Max would have benefited imo.

[LightningMcQueen]

Could be a very clever move.

[messy]

Honestly thought this would happen from the moment Aston Martin were announced as the new identity of RP.....and I think it's a very good move for both parties. 

 

Excited at the prospect of Seb getting his mojo back to be honest. 

[baddog]

Will be interesting to see how it goes. Team must be pretty happy to have a genuine tier 1 driver for the first time since it became Force India I guess. 

[kosmos]

Will be interesting to see how it goes. Team must be pretty happy to have a genuine tier 1 driver for the first time since it became Force India I guess. 

Vettel is not tier 1, at best he is tier 2.

[Rodaknee]

Agreed. Think Red Bull missed a big opportunity here for a strong pairing and an experienced champion that can help make that car better. Max would have benefited imo.

When a driver returns to a team, it gives him some power over that team.  RB would be asking for trouble under those circumstances.  Anyway, Vettel is far too old for the RB brand.  It's much better for the 'show' watching Vettel race against the McLaren - the younger generation and he who wants to prove a point.  Should the RP drop further back, he'll be up against the Ferrari.  Next year could be fun.

[Dicun]

Where does this announcement leave Pérez? It would be a massive shame if he couldn't get a drive for 2021. There are at least 4-5 other drivers who are much less worthy of their seats.

[as65p]

Well, he could beat the Ferraris a few times, maybe that's worth it alone. Depends on how good the 2019 Mercedes will still be in his 3rd season.

[Marklar]

Where does this announcement leave Pérez? It would be a massive shame if he couldn't get a drive for 2021. There are at least 4-5 other drivers who are much less worthy of their seats.

no doubt Alfa and Haas will be after him. The whole package with him being a reliable driver and healthy sponsorship in a big market is too good to resist, but question is if he wants.

[Acathla]

Vettel is not tier 1, at best he is tier 2.

 

I'm looking forward to improved spatial awareness. Hopefully for the rest of the field. 

[Jovanotti]

Because all the evidence points to them not doing so?

Better safe than sorry.
 

[Shade]

There are rumors that after Sebastian, Aston Martin is making an offer to Adrian Newey.

[Lights]

Will be interesting to see how it goes. Team must be pretty happy to have a genuine tier 1 driver for the first time since it became Force India I guess. 

 

You're a bit early with calling him a genuine tier 1 driver. You should've at least waited until he's beating his new slow subordinate teammate.

[baddog]

Vettel is not tier 1, at best he is tier 2.

 

Thanks for your opinion lol. 

[PlayboyRacer]

Tier 1 - Hamilton, Verstappen
Tier 1.5 - Leclerc, Ricciardo
Tier 2 - Sainz, Vettel, Norris, Bottas

On current form I think that's fair enough. You could add Gasly to Tier 2 now perhaps.

[thefinalapex]

Meh, i hoped he would have gone to red bull or paired with perez at Aston Martin. Its his last chance tho to recover his reputation somewhat.

[GoldenColt]

Seems like a sidestep more than anything else, but of course his options were always going to be limited considering his reputation has justifiably plummeted over the last three seasons. Not sure where to place Aston Martin for the near future and the fact that he will be teamed up with a mediocre nonentity like Lance Stroll doesn't sound like the most exciting of partnerships, but time will tell.

[Kao18]

Happy for Sebastian  We are getting some proper leaders for next season at most (semi) top teams now.

[ensign14]

This will go down as well as when Eddie Irvine joined Jaguar.

 

Which could have gone very well had Jaguar done the thing it was meant to do - namely, recruit Newey.

[messy]

Where does this announcement leave Pérez? It would be a massive shame if he couldn't get a drive for 2021. There are at least 4-5 other drivers who are much less worthy of their seats.

 

At least. Perez's reward for year after year of excellence in midfield? The inevitable boot as soon as Stroll Sr could justify it. 

[KevD]

Meh, i hoped he would have gone to red bull or paired with perez at Aston Martin. Its his last chance tho to recover his reputation somewhat.

 

He'll probably be used as a stepping stone for little Stroll. Senior seems to be on a mission to prove that everyting is manufacturable, even F1-champions. For the right amount money that is of course. 

[Jellyfishcake]

I honestly think this will be a great move for Vettel, getting out from the Ferrari situation I strongly suspect that he will make less mistakes than he has done at Ferrari, sure he isn't at his peak anymore but still could be a damn fine driver. 

 

I think the team will benefit as he has a lot of experience from leading teams so could be very useful for Aston Martin, as some of the decisions this season have shown that despite the car being more competitive the team aren't used to running near the front. 

[balage06]

We still doing the tiers? I loved them when I was 12.

[kumo7]

Will Vettel be purged from his Ferrari seat earlier than expected and be replaced by ...!

[PlayboyRacer]

We still doing the tiers? I loved them when I was 12.

Tiers are where it's at.

[kumo7]

Fred..... 

[Marklar]

At least use S as the highest tier

[jimjimjeroo]

What a difference a year or 2 makes

No one would have ever predicted this 18 months ago.

[Nitropower]

Shot in the foot. Hiring a more expensive, underperforming, over the hill burnt out ex champion. A new "spin" in the Aston Martin fortunes for next year. Unfair on Sergio Perez, I think they will regret.

[Lerdes]

Good luck there, Seb. You will need it.

[r4mses]

Tier 1 - Hamilton, Verstappen
Tier 1.5 - Leclerc, Ricciardo
Tier 2 - Sainz, Vettel, Norris, Bottas

On current form I think that's fair enough. You could add Gasly to Tier 2 now perhaps.