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Will Red Bull Racing be retained by Verstappen?


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#1 SenorSjon

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:16

After topping the mechanical DNF list for this season with 3 out 9, the inability of the team to get a useful teammate and after the 'best season evah' prep, he sounded pretty fed up today.

Seeing Hamilton wanting more money, could Verstappen undercut him for the Merc seat by tearing up his contract?

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#2 Atreiu

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:17

Maybe in 2022.

#3 renzmann

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:19

If I were Jos Verstappen, I'd call my friend Toto. I'd tell him there's another top tier driver, except this one would drive for half of Hamilton's salary.

 

But I guess he did that 3 years ago and it didn't work :rotfl:


Edited by renzmann, 13 September 2020 - 14:19.


#4 Marklar

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:21

Seeing Hamilton wanting more money, could Verstappen undercut him for the Merc seat by tearing up his contract?
 

this and the topic title cracked me up, have my like  :lol:



#5 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:35

Sigh. Unfortunately it’s not out of the realm of possibility. I would prefer if Max would just have patience.

#6 ARTGP

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:36

Most valued thread.



#7 Topsu

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:37

Max shoud offer himself for free to Merc.



#8 Arundo

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:37

Nowhere to go, so yes but frustration will built.

#9 276159

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:38

Sigh. Unfortunately it’s not out of the realm of possibility. I would prefer if Max would just have patience.


He is in his 6th season, with 4 full season with a “title” contender. How much patience someone should have?

It’s crystal clear, if he wants a title, he needs to switch to a Mercedes powered team.

#10 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:38

Is Max leaving? Sounds good to me.

Where is he going?

#11 ExEd

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:40

Is Max leaving? Sounds good to me.

Where is he going?


Merc , first chance

#12 Augurk

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:42

Got a feeling Max wouldve been higher up in the championship had he been in the racing point or McLaren.

#13 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:43

Merc , first chance

Which is when?

So nothing has changed from 3 years ago lol. We're just waiting it out for Lewis.

#14 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:45

Got a feeling Max wouldve been higher up in the championship had he been in the racing point or McLaren.


:lol: I don’t think so. Trp and Mclaren’s chassis are light years behind Red Bull.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:46

Nice title, but he has no options until Mercedes decide it's time to let Lewis go. Also I'm pretty sure Max is under contract.

#16 Augurk

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:47

:lol: I don’t think so. Trp and Mclaren’s chassis are light years behind Red Bull.


Lets not forget in that scenario RBR wouldnt have had Max.

#17 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:50

Nice title, but he has no options until Mercedes decide it's time to let Lewis go. Also I'm pretty sure Max is under contract.


There's probably an exit clause that he can use.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:51

:lol: I don’t think so. Trp and Mclaren’s chassis are light years behind Red Bull.


TRP next year will probably have this years Merc ...
Lets see Seb against RBhondas against that lol !
Good luck 😉

#19 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:54

TRP next year will probably have this years Merc ...
Lets see Seb against RBhondas against that lol !
Good luck 😉

Wrong. The cars will be the same next season. The rules state that 2020 cars will be used for 2021 as well.

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#20 noikeee

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:55

There's probably an exit clause that he can use.


Can't see it, it was very surprising when that happened to Vettel, would they run the risk of the same thing happening again by agreeing to an easily activated clause?

Also Max is 3rd in the championship, RB is 2nd so what clause? Typically these things are only activated if they're uncompetitive.

#21 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:55

There's probably an exit clause that he can use.

That's no use if Hamilton does a Valentino Rossi and races into his 40s lol

#22 NateF

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:56

It’s a good thing Verstappen is so young, he’s going on veteran status with his time in F1! I actually don’t think Hamilton will stay as long as many suspect in the sport, think he’ll be out by 2023 at the latest

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:57

He is in his 6th season, with 4 full season with a “title” contender. How much patience someone should have?

It’s crystal clear, if he wants a title, he needs to switch to a Mercedes powered team.


Williams would have him in a heartbeat

#24 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:57

That's no use if Hamilton does a Valentino Rossi and races into his 40s lol

What about Bottas?

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:58

Wrong. The cars will be the same next season. The rules state that 2020 cars will be used for 2021 as well.


They can’t bring upgrades mid season ? They already do as of now

#26 EndlessMotion

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 14:59

Edit: Wrong thread.


Edited by EndlessMotion, 13 September 2020 - 15:00.


#27 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:01

They can’t bring upgrades mid season ? They already do as of now

Upgrades are not the same as using a different car.

#28 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:02

What about Bottas?

What about him? Isn't the problem pairing Lewis and Max together?

Hey I'd love it. But I've given up waiting for it.

#29 ExEd

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:03

Upgrades are not the same as using a different car.


Hence the smiley , they can just name it “upgrades” they just happen to look alike. But yes technically can’t be the same indeed

#30 statman

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:04

now this is a good topic title  :D

 

but yeah, Verstappen should offer himself to Mercedes by demanding less pay than either Bottas and Hamilton and saying: great results for less money guys.



#31 realracer200

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:39

In my opinion Hamilton vs Verstappen at Mercedes would be the only thing which could save Formula 1 from boringness.



#32 Joefane

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:42

In my opinion Hamilton vs Verstappen at Mercedes would be the only thing which could save Formula 1 from boringness.

You’re definitely not alone on that one.

#33 Kao18

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:46

Not gonne happen. Hamiltons records are priority now.

#34 renzmann

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:48

Not gonne happen. Hamiltons records are priority now.

Is this a serious statement?



#35 ARTGP

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:49

Is this a serious statement?

 

yes? It is what it is. Merc are going for records with Hamilton. They won't sign Max.



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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:49

If I were Jos Verstappen, I'd call my friend Toto. I'd tell him there's another top tier driver, except this one would drive for half of Hamilton's salary.

 

But I guess he did that 3 years ago and it didn't work :rotfl:

Toto is going to Aston Martin. Toto can get him a seat there.



#37 smitten

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:50

yes? It is what it is. Merc are going for records with Hamilton. They won't sign Max.

 

They don't need Verstappen.



#38 Kao18

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:55

They don't need Verstappen.


They dont because they are miles ahead of the competition. Its a big shame. Days ilke today must be boring even for Lewis' fans I am sure.

#39 Joefane

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:56

They dont because they are miles ahead of the competition. Its a big shame. Days ilke today must be boring even for Lewis' fans I am sure.

Judging by this forum, they definitely aren't



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Posted 13 September 2020 - 15:57

They dont because they are miles ahead of the competition. Its a big shame. Days ilke today must be boring even for Lewis' fans I am sure.

 

If you found today boring just because of who won, you need to have a long hard look at yourself. :kiss:



#41 aray

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:01

2022 is earliest before Max can jump the ship. That too is of very little chance.



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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:04

I never understood all of these, "Max will be fed up and leave posts".

 

Of course he would leave to Merc, but he would have left there years ago if would have been possible. Other than that, he is by far the best place, he could be. 

 

So I don't really see the point of these threads, as there are no options for him at the moment.



#43 Kao18

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:06

If you found today boring just because of who won, you need to have a long hard look at yourself. :kiss:


You mean the crashes and safety cars? Was kind of fun and saved todays race a bit at least. Unfortunately all excitement for the championship and at the front is lacking.

Yeah I know its not Mercedes' problem, still its a fact and must be boring to some extend at the very least for most Lewis' fans as well I assume.

#44 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:07

Of course there are options. He could sign with Mercedes for 2022 already and spend 2021 with Red Bull or a lesser team. Who knows.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:18

If you found today boring just because of who won, you need to have a long hard look at yourself. :kiss:

So everybody who cares about who won has an issue? :rotfl:



#46 Danyy

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:20

Should knee jerk threads be retained in 2020?

#47 ARTGP

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:21

Should knee jerk threads be retained in 2020?

 

This is hardly knee-jerk......

 

this is 5 years in the making....



#48 fed up

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:22

I never understood all of these, "Max will be fed up and leave posts".

Of course he would leave to Merc, but he would have left there years ago if would have been possible. Other than that, he is by far the best place, he could be.

So I don't really see the point of these threads, as there are no options for him at the moment.


Indeed. He has a contract until the end of 2023, so the best he can hope for is Merc seat in 2024. There is a lot that can happen between now and then and that includes the emergence of the next Max

#49 renzmann

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:22

Should knee jerk threads be retained in 2020?

What has to happen before you consider criticizing Red Bull?



#50 Joefane

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 16:23

Should knee jerk threads be retained in 2020?

2 very possible wins lost in 9 races isn't a knee-jerk.

 

Being denied a strong title challenge, once again, isn't a knee-jerk.


Edited by Joefane, 13 September 2020 - 16:24.