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[ARTGP]

Whatever it takes right ;)

 

See, that's the right attitude. 

Edited by ARTGP, 04 October 2020 - 07:33.

[PlayboyRacer]

See, that's the right attitude.

Well he's gotta do something drastic to overcome the limitations of the truck he's driving haha

[jcbc3]

Guess Stroll is pretty much out of it now.

[DutchQuicksilver]

I think it could be Leclerc really. Ferrari’s upgrades seem to be working and Leclerc is making the most out of them. Ricciardo could be within a shot as well. I think both Racing Point’s are out though. The car seems to have lost it’s edge.

[PlayboyRacer]

I think it could be Leclerc really. Ferrari’s upgrades seem to be working and Leclerc is making the most out of them. Ricciardo could be within a shot as well. I think both Racing Point’s are out though. The car seems to have lost it’s edge.

The form between the teams will continue to swing imo till the end of the season. Far too early to count anyone out.

[SenorSjon]

So, a lot of action past race.
With the previous no 4 and 5 DNFing, Perez and Ricciardo make good strides for 4th.
After Eifel
4. 78 Ricciardo +15 (+2)
5. 68 Perez +12 (+4)
6. 65 Norris DNF (-2)
7. 64 Albon DNF (-2)
8. 63 Leclerc +6 (-1)
9. 57 Stroll DNS (-1)

[NixxxoN]

Should be Albon because of the car he has, but I think it will be Ricciardo, him and his Renault seem to be the 4th strongest combo lately

[PlayboyRacer]

It's looking likely either Ricciardo or Perez will take this. Daniels form recently has been very consistent, he's performing brilliantly.

[PlayboyRacer]

After Portimao

4. Ricciardo - 80
5. Leclerc - 75
6. Perez - 74
7. Norris - 65
8. Albon - 64
9. Gasly - 63
10. Sainz - 59
11. Stroll - 57
12. Ocon - 40
13. Vettel - 18
14. Kvyat - 14

Edited by PlayboyRacer, 26 October 2020 - 09:24.

[Afaf]

It looks to be between Ricciardo, Leclerc and Perez.

Albon a half chance if he can manage to find another 10% from a car that is capable of much more, even if it doesn’t look like it right now.

McLaren seem to just lack a tenth or two to the other challengers at crucial times and neither driver is really taking the lead there.

I’d have Leclerc as favourite - Ferrari seemed to be legit with their top 6 call at Portugal, the upgrades look to be having a positive effect and Leclerc is going brilliantly.

Next would be Ricciardo, who has been excellent and will score the majority of Renault’s points but will they be fast enough in the remaining races?

Perez probably has the best car of all of them (except Albon) and is putting in solid drives so should be a very good chance as well.

[SenorSjon]

I think Albon will drop from the top 10. It only needs:

- Stroll stop messing up things.

- Sainz hauling steady points

- Gasly also getting decent finishes.

 

Like I predicted before, the improved Ferrari will keep it ahead of Albon with relative ease in the hands of Leclerc. 

[BertoC]

Leclerc looked an outside bet before Portugal and now he kinda looks the favourite. Seeing how close things are whoever finishes a race as best of the rest will suddenly be at the top. I still think Perez will eventually take it.

[absinthedude]

I suspect it's between RIcciardo, Norris and Leclerc but it only needs someone like Gasly to score another top 2 finish, or Stroll to have a roll of 4ths and that changes. 

 

It *should* be Albon given the car he's in but I don't see it. 

 

I'm going to say Ricciardo as Renault seem to have genuinely unlocked pace in their car. 

 

 

I stand by what I said at the beginning of this month. It should be Albon, but I'm going for Ricciardo. He's found the sweet spot in the Renault. 

[krapmeister]

Albon's head is completely gone - I can't see him getting it together enough to get a result.

[PlayboyRacer]

Albon's head is completely gone - I can't see him getting it together enough to get a result.

You weren't wrong.

Post Imola standings

Ricciardo - 95
Leclerc - 85
Perez - 82
Norris - 69
Sainz - 65
Albon - 64
Gasly - 63
Stroll - 57
Ocon - 40
Kvyat - 26
Vettel - 18

Top 3 of Ricciardo, Leclerc and Perez making a small break from the pack. Gasly and also Perez rather unlucky today. Great races from Daniel and Charles - punching above their weight once more.

[ARTGP]

You weren't wrong.

Post Imola standings

Ricciardo - 95
Leclerc - 85
Perez - 82
Norris - 69
Sainz - 65
Albon - 64
Gasly - 63
Stroll - 57
Ocon - 40
Kvyat - 26
Vettel - 18

Top 3 of Ricciardo, Leclerc and Perez making a small break from the pack. Gasly and also Perez rather unlucky today. Great races from Daniel and Charles - punching above their weight once more.

 

 

But you wonder when the Renault reliability will start hitting Daniel's side of the garage....Although I suspect you wouldn't mind that 

[PlayboyRacer]

But you wonder when the Renault reliability will start hitting Daniel's side of the garage....Although I suspect you wouldn't mind that

Lol no I'm an Aussie so rather quite enjoying this, I'm actually a fan of both Daniel and Charles - a straight fight is what we want! Don't want unreliability deciding it. Checo is right in it too.

Forgot to mention Kvyats great race also. He showed some real balls today, can always appreciate that

[PlayboyRacer]

Post Turkey standings

Perez - 100
Leclerc - 97
Ricciardo - 96
Sainz - 75
Norris - 74
Albon - 70
Gasly - 63
Stroll - 59
Ocon - 40
Vettel - 33
Kvyat - 26

Getting tight at the top with Perez, Leclerc and Ricciardo. 3 races to go!

[Ivanhoe]

Anyone of those three is fine for me 

[Astandahl]

Sainz has done a very good job despite his poor luck.

[Ivanhoe]

Sainz has done a very good job despite his poor luck.

He sure did, had the best overtake of the day on Ricciardo today, that was some good racing.

[Afaf]

Renault didn’t have the pace this weekend but should bounce back in Bahrain. Ferrari have definitely improved. It could be any of Leclerc, Perez and Ricciardo. Hard to split.

[Celloman]

If Perez finishes fourth and doesn't get a contract for next season, I wonder if he becomes the highest ranked driver to step out of F1 due to not finding a seat.

[TheAviator]

Leclerc will beat Perez and Ric in Bahrain 1 and Abu Dhabi, but will get spanked in Bahrain 2. So I say Perez 4th, Leclerc 5th Ric 6th.

[ARTGP]

Leclerc will beat Perez and Ric in Bahrain 1 and Abu Dhabi, but will get spanked in Bahrain 2. So I say Perez 4th, Leclerc 5th Ric 6th.

 

Renault was extremely strong in Bahrain 1 last year until both cars retired on the same lap due to electrical issues. Don't think it's going to be easy (Ric vs Lec) in either race.   Overtaking is quite easy there too which just benefits the Renault.

 

It's Abu Dhabi were Leclerc has a better chance of keeping track position.

Edited by ARTGP, 16 November 2020 - 00:22.

[charly0418]

Bahrein is Perez best track of the calendar

[DutchQuicksilver]

With three races coming up that require good top speed, Perez is in the best shape to take it. Ricciardo might suffer with the Renault at the slow speed corners at Abu Dhabi and Leclerc has no chance in all three of them really if nothing weird happens.

[TheAviator]

Renault was extremely strong in Bahrain 1 last year until both cars retired on the same lap due to electrical issues. Don't think it's going to be easy (Ric vs Lec) in either race. Overtaking is quite easy there too which just benefits the Renault.

It's Abu Dhabi were Leclerc has a better chance of keeping track position.

I know a guy who was strong in Bahrain last year as well until his engine went out ;)

[PlayboyRacer]

With three races coming up that require good top speed, Perez is in the best shape to take it. Ricciardo might suffer with the Renault at the slow speed corners at Abu Dhabi and Leclerc has no chance in all three of them really if nothing weird happens.

It's funny though. All season, with Ferraris woes for the majority of it, most have been saying Leclerc has no chance to nail this.

Yet here we are.

[rodlamas]

I know a guy who was strong in Bahrain last year as well until his engine went out ;)

The problem is that he does not have this engine anymore.

[jjcale]

Now that the settlement is out of the way and the rules for copying have been put in place (... to stop anyone else from emulating Racing Point - thus locking in their advantage) ... and now that both titles have been wrapped up ... Does anyone else wonder if Merc will send a few engineers over to Racing Point - on "secondment" - to explain to them how to best operate the W10?  

Edited by jjcale, 23 November 2020 - 15:00.

[Risil]

If Perez finishes fourth and doesn't get a contract for next season, I wonder if he becomes the highest ranked driver to step out of F1 due to not finding a seat.

 

Nearly. Piero Taruffi: 3rd in 1952, driving a Lancia sports car in 1953. Made it back to Grand Prix racing later. Of course 1952 wasn't actually an F1 season, but you know.

 

Also, Rudi Fischer placed 4th in points that same year, but raced nothing in 1953. Don't know if that was a voluntary retirement or simply couldn't find something good to drive. Tbh I hadn't heard of Rudi Fischer till I started looking up the relevant stats.

 

Somewhat more recently: Mark Webber left after 2013 to race sports cars for Porsche. I think it was his decision to leave Red Bull, but I'm sure if someone like Ferrari had offered him a drive in 2014 he'd have considered it.

[TheAviator]

The problem is that he does not have this engine anymore.

He doesnt need to win, although that engine deficit at Bahrain could be too big even against midfielders.

[NixxxoN]

Bahrain is more of a high speed track (the outer track even more so), closest thing to Monza. McLaren and Force India should be the strongest in both Bahrains. Ferrari and Red Bull to struggle due to power deficit, and Renault a bit of unknown, they did well at monza but nothing spectacular.

 

Overall Perez is very likely to finish 4th if nothing strange happens.

 

Carlos probably could close the gap to Leclerc and Ricciardo but its too late now and its almost 20 points gap, I dont think he can finish higher than 7th

Edited by NixxxoN, 23 November 2020 - 15:32.

[PlayboyRacer]

1 round to go. Leclerc took himself out of contention for this honour with his ambitious divebomb at Bahrain outer circuit. Perez survived the assault and, after a very fine drive, gained a stranglehold on 4th. It'll now take a big dose of luck for Ricciardo to flip this script and take 4th - himself having a very fine season regardless.

Perez 125
Ricciardo 112
Leclerc 98
Sainz 97
Albon 93
Norris 87
Stroll 74
Gasly 71
Ocon 60
Vettel 33
Kvyat 32

[ARTGP]

Perez will have 10 place grid drop. Ricciardo can take it, but he needs help at the start   .

 

Doesn't really matter to me anyway. The three of them are worthy of P4.

Edited by ARTGP, 11 December 2020 - 01:22.

[PlayboyRacer]

Charles will do well here to hold 6th, given his penalty and his car. It would be good to see though. He's been far superior to anyone behind him in the WDC and quite frankly shouldn't have been in contention for 4th to begin with.

Charles has had the "higher highs". But imo it's Ricciardo who's had the finest season of everyone there. Renault have still been erratic at times but he's delivered flawlessly all year. A very Prost like year from Daniel imo.

[SilverArrow31]

Perez will have 10 place grid drop. Ricciardo can take it, but he needs help at the start   .

 

Doesn't really matter to me anyway. The three of them are worthy of P4.

 

Ricciardo needs to outscore Perez by 13 points, I don't see how that will be possible without a DNF for Perez, and even then Ricciardo needs a podium, I highly doubt he can do it.

[ARTGP]

Ricciardo needs to outscore Perez by 13 points, I don't see how that will be possible without a DNF for Perez, and even then Ricciardo needs a podium, I highly doubt he can do it.

 

Well yeah, he needs Perez to get clobbered from his starting position which will probably be P14-P15 at best

Edited by ARTGP, 11 December 2020 - 01:33.

[Marklar]

I mean Verstappen DNFs in a third of all races, Bottas is in crap form and Lewis just comes from Covid. A podium is doable, but then again Perez will be even quicker with a new engine now that I assume that even starting from P15 wont bother him too much.

[Ivanhoe]

Not the best track for overtaking though, it’s near to impossible to follow closely in that last sector. Think the delta you need lies around 1.5 seconds.

Edited by Ivanhoe, 11 December 2020 - 08:14.

[Gambelli]

I think Perez and Ric are settled barring craziness, the battle is the next 3 behind them, it should be Albon, but it will most likely be Sainz, he's had a great 2nd half of the season.  

LeClerc may drop because of penalty and poor Ferrari race pace