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#1 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 November 2020 - 07:32

It has been a weird year for all of us, and for Formula One as well. It's November, we're still racing in Europe, and we have no idea what 2021 will bring. Some things don't change, however – and one of them is the Silly Season Trophy, which opens today. It's a game in which you try to predict the teams and drivers of 2022, and this year's edition has the potential to be the most challenging one yet.

 
Some teams have already changed owners this year, and others are likely to follow. Some might not survive until 2022. Changes in technical regulations and engine suppliers might cause a few unexpected driver moves. Can you be the best at figuring out who moves where?
 
Previous winners:
2003: Brian O Flaherty
2004: Flying Panda
2005: lukywill, Viceroy, Makarias
2017: ANF
2018: Marklar
2019: TurnOffTheLights
2020: rodlamas

Participation:
To participate, post a reply in this topic with the drivers you think will be on the grid in the first Formula One Grand Prix of 2022. Be sure to follow the rules and please make sure there is no confusion as to which driver you mean.

Rules and point scoring:
The game will continue with the same scoring system as last year: unpopular picks are rewarded more if they turn out to be true. Early indications are that this is a good method for breaking ties.

  • 2 drivers per team. In case more drivers are provided, player only scores points for the first two listed.
  • 1 team per driver. In case a driver is placed into multiple teams, player only scores points for the first one mentioned.
  • 5 points for correctly guessing driver/team. You can earn up to 2 bonus points for each successful pick depending on how many people guessed that particular driver/team combination. This is calculated as 2*(1–(a/b)), where a is the amount of guesses with that driver/team combination among other participants and b is the amount of your opponents (i.e. total guesses minus one).
  • 2 points for correctly guessing driver (wrong team). You can earn up to 1 bonus point for each successful pick depending on how many people guessed that driver would participate. This is calculated as 1–(a/b), where a is the amount of guesses with that driver/team combination among other participants and b is the amount of your opponents (i.e. total guesses minus one).
  • On top of the regular bonus points, you get double points if the driver you guessed was mentioned by nobody else.
  • 0 points if driver doesn't compete. An exception is if the driver was supposed to participate but did not due to a temporary injury or temporary ban (e.g. in 2017 you would get 5 points for guessing either Ericsson, Giovinazzi or Wehrlein in the Sauber and 2 points for guessing them in any other team, but no points for guessing van der Garde in any team in 2015).
  • If you list less than 13 teams and there are less than 13 teams on the grid in 2022, you score points for the teams you left out (5 points per team).
  • You can list an unknown driver (no given name) in a team. You will then score 5 points if a driver that was not mentioned by any other entry drives in the team you put him/her in. You will score no points if an unknown driver drives in a different team.
  • In the event of a tie, the player putting the most drivers in the correct teams is given preferenceIf there is still a tie, the player who submitted his guess first is given preference (in case a post is edited, I will look at the time it was last edited, not the original submission time).
  • In case of an event unspecified by rules, SpaceHorseParty makes the final decision.

Deadline:
December 1, 2020, 00:00 (UTC)



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#2 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 November 2020 - 07:34

Mercedes	Lewis Hamilton		Valtteri Bottas
Red Bull	Max Verstappen		Sergio Pérez	
McLaren		Lando Norris		Daniel Ricciardo
Alpine		Fernando Alonso 	Pierre Gasly
Aston Martin	Lance Stroll		Sebastian Vettel
Ferrari		Charles Leclerc		Carlos Sainz
AlphaTauri	Alexander Albon		Yuki Tsunoda	
Alfa Romeo	Antonio Giovinazzi	Robert Shwartzman
Haas		Nikita Mazepin		Mick Schumacher
Williams	Nicholas Latifi		unknown driver

Edited by SpaceHorseParty, 23 November 2020 - 19:42.


#3 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 01 November 2020 - 14:30

Mercedes        Lewis Hamilton      Valtteri Bottas
Red Bull        Max Verstappen      Pierre Gasly
Aston Martin    Sebastian Vettel    Lance Stroll
Alpine          Fernando Alonso     Esteban Ocon
McLaren         Daniel Ricciardo    Lando Norris
Ferrari         Charles Leclerc     Carlos Sainz
AlphaTauri      Alexander Albon     Yuki Tsunoda
Alfa Romeo      Sergio Perez        Robert Shwartzman
Haas            Nikita Mazepin      Mick Schumacher
Williams        George Russell      Nicholas Latifi

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 20 November 2020 - 19:28.


#4 sladealonso

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 11:10

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas

Red Bull: Max Verstappen and Pierre Gasly

McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo and Lando Norris

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz

Alpine: Fernando Alonso and Christian Lundgaard

Aston Martin: Sebastian Vettel and Lance Stroll

Alpha Tauri: Yuki Tsunoda and Juri Vips

Alfa Romeo: Kimi Raikkonen and Robert Shwartman

Haas: Mick Schumacher and Nikita Mazepin

Williams: George Russell and Nicholas Latifi



#5 rodlamas

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 14:02

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas

Red Bull: Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez

McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo and Lando Norris

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz

Alpine: Fernando Alonso and Pierre Gasly

Aston Martin: Sebastian Vettel and Lance Stroll

Alpha Tauri: Yuki Tsunoda and Nico Hulkenberg

Alfa Romeo: Antonio Giovinazzi and Robert Shwartman

Haas: Mick Schumacher and Nikita Mazepin

Williams: George Russell and Nicholas Latifi



#6 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 15:23

Mercedes	Lewis Hamilton		George Russel
Red Bull	Max Verstappen		Kevin Magnussen	
McLaren		Lando Norris		Daniel Ricciardo
Alpine		Fernando Alonso 	Pierre Gasly
Aston Martin	Lance Stroll		Sebastian Vettel
Ferrari		Charles Leclerc		Carlos Sainz
AlphaTauri	Yuki Tsunoda		Christian Lundgaard
Alfa Romeo	Mick Schumacher 	Calum Ilott
Haas		Nikita Mazepin		Robert Shwartzman
Williams	Esteban Ocon     	Valterri Bottas

I feel confident about Aston Martin and Ferrari.



#7 f1paul

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 17:39

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and George Russell

Red Bull: Max Verstappen and Valtteri Bottas

McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo and Pierre Gasly

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz

Alpine: Fernando Alonso and Christian Lundgaard

Aston Martin: Sebastian Vettel and Lance Stroll

Alpha Tauri: Yuki Tsunoda and Theo Pourchaire

Alfa Romeo: Kimi Raikkonen and Robert Shwartzman

Haas: Mick Schumacher and Nikita Mazepin

Williams: Alexander Albon and Nicholas Latifi



#8 Marklar

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Posted 26 November 2020 - 22:04

Mercedes     Lewis Hamilton    George Russell
Red Bull     Max Verstappen    Yuki Tsunoda
Ferrari      Charles Leclerc   Carlos Sainz
Aston Martin Sebastian Vettel  Lance Stroll
Alphine      Fernando Alonso   Pierre Gasly
McLaren      Daniel Ricciardo  Lando Norris
Alpha Tauri  Alex Albon        Juri Vips        
Alfa Romeo   Theo Pourchaire   Robert Shwartzman
Haas         Mick Schumacher   Nikita Mazepin
Williams     Sergio Perez      Nicholas Latifi

Edited by Marklar, 30 November 2020 - 22:48.


#9 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 29 November 2020 - 07:26

Don't forget to post your predictions by tomorrow evening!



#10 Makarias

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Posted 29 November 2020 - 10:38

Mercedes     Lewis Hamilton    Sergio Perez
Red Bull     Max Verstappen    George Russell
Ferrari      Charles Leclerc   Carlos Sainz
Aston Martin Sebastian Vettel  Lance Stroll
Alpine       Fernando Alonso   Pierre Gasly
McLaren      Daniel Ricciardo  Lando Norris
Alpha Tauri  Yuki Tsunoda      Christian Lundgaard     
Alfa Romeo   Esteban Ocon      Robert Shwartzman
Haas         Mick Schumacher   Callum Ilott
Williams     Valtteri Bottas   Nicholas Latifi

The feeling when you think you're uniquely brilliant in placing Gasly at Alpine and then look at the previous entries.


Edited by Makarias, 29 November 2020 - 10:39.


#11 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 12:37

Less than 12 hours to go!



#12 scheivlak

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 12:59

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton / George Russell

Red Bull: Max Verstappen / Yuki Tsunoda

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc / Carlos Sainz

Aston Martin: Lance Stroll / Valtteri Bottas

Alpine; Fernando Alonso / Sergio Perez

McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo / Lando Norris

Alpha Tauri: Pierre Gasly / Alexander Albon

Alfa Romeo: Mick Schumacher / Antonio Giovinazzi

Haas: Nikita Mazepin / Robert Shwartzman

Williams: Nicolas Latifi / Esteban Ocon



#13 M2000-5

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 21:11

A quick one without any research.

Mercedes: Hamilton / Bottas

Red Bull: Verstappen / Perez

Ferrari: Leclerc / Sainz

Aston Martin: Stroll / Vettel

Alpine: Alonso / Gasly

McLaren: Ricciardo / Norris

Alpha Tauri: Albon / Tsunoda

Alfa Romeo: Schumacher / Raikkonen

Haas: Mazepin / Giovinazzi

Williams: Unknown / Russell

#14 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 December 2020 - 06:03

Thank you everyone, no more entries!



#15 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 21:07

Thankfully, the Covid-19 crisis has not caused any teams to pull out of Formula One (yet). However, we do have less players than usual – hopefully, for unrelated reasons and only temporarily.
 
Let's look at some statistics:

Drivers

10: Alonso, Gasly, Hamilton, Leclerc, Ricciardo, Sainz, Schumacher, Stroll, Tsunoda, Verstappen
9: Bottas, Mazepin, Norris, Russell, Shwartzman, Vettel
8: Latifi
7: Pérez
6: Albon
4: Giovinazzi, Lundgaard, Ocon
3: Raikkonen
2: Ilott, Pourchaire, unknown driver, Vips
1: Hülkenberg, Magnussen

 
9 out of 20 drivers on the 2021 grid are expected to continue, including Mick Schumacher, who will make his debut next year. The least likely 2021 drivers to line up the 2022 grid (according to the players of this game) are Räikkönen (three picks), Giovinazzi, and Ocon (four picks each). Of those, Räikkönen and Giovinazzi are almost entirely expected to stay at Alfa Romeo, while Ocon was assigned to three different teams – Alfa Romeo, Alpine, and Williams.
 
Pérez currently doesn't have a seat arranged for 2021, and it seems more and more likely he will have to sit out next year. However, seven players expect he will return (or still be here) in 2022. Hülkenberg and Magnussen, other potential returnees, were picked by one player each (rodlamas and KWSN - DSM, respectively).

The likeliest rookie is Yuki Tsunoda, picked by all ten players. Of course, he's linked to Red Bull teams: two players placed him in the main team, and eight placed him in AlphaTauri.
 
The only two unique picks were already mentioned – they're Nico Hülkenberg and Kevin Magnussen. Should any of them appear on the 2022 grid, even in other teams, they will bring a lot of valuable points – they would bring 6 points for driving in a different team, which is more than a popular driver/team combo, like Gasly at Alpine, would bring.
 
Only two unknown picks were made, and both of them were for Williams. One was made by me (SpaceHorseParty), and theo ther was made by M2000-5.
 
Teams

Mercedes: Hamilton (10), Bottas (5), Russell (4), Pérez (1)
Red Bull: Verstappen (10), Pérez (3), Gasly, Tsunoda (2), Bottas, Magnussen, Russell (1)
McLaren: Ricciardo (10), Norris (9), Gasly (1)
Racing Point: Stroll (10), Vettel (9), Bottas (1)
Alpine: Alonso (10), Gasly (6), Lundgaard (2), Ocon, Pérez (1)
Ferrari: Leclerc, Sainz (10)
AlphaTauri: Tsunoda (8), Albon (5), Lundgaard, Vips (2), Gasly, Hülkenberg, Pourchaire (1)
Alfa Romeo: Shwartzman (7), Giovinazzi, Raikkonen, Schumacher (3), Ilott, Ocon, Pérez, Pourchaire (1)
Haas: Mazepin (9), Schumacher (7), Shwartzman (2), Giovinazzi, Ilott (1)
Williams: Latifi (8), Russell (4), Bottas, Ocon, unknown driver (2), Albon, Pérez (1)

There are seven things the players universally agreed on: Lewis Hamilton will stay at Mercedes, Max Verstappen will stay at Red Bull, Daniel Ricciardo will stay at McLaren, Lance Stroll will stay at Aston Martin, Fernando Alonso will stay at Alpine, and Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz will stay at Ferrari. Pierre Gasly to Alpine (made by six players) and Alexander Albon to AlphaTauri (made by five players) are the most popular moves.
 
All players predict the current ten teams to line up the 2022 grid, with no new teams appearing or disappearing.
 
Average pick

Mercedes	Lewis Hamilton		Valtteri Bottas
Red Bull	Max Verstappen		Sergio Pérez
McLaren		Daniel Ricciardo	Lando Norris
Aston Martin	Lance Stroll		Sebastian Vettel
Alpine		Fernando Alonso		Pierre Gasly
Ferrari		Charles Leclerc		Carlos Sainz
AlphaTauri	Alexander Albon		Yuki Tsunoda
Alfa Romeo	Antonio Giovinazzi	Robert Shwartzman
Haas		Nikita Mazepin		Mick Schumacher
Williams	Nicholas Latifi		George Russell

This time, selecting the average pick was easier than ever – no compromises needed.
 
I calculated the results if the average pick comes true:
 

Place	Name             	Points	Exact Subm
	AVERAGE PICK		125.44	 20
  1	rodlamas		119.33	 19     3
  2	SpaceHorseParty		119.11	 19     6
  3	DutchQuicksilver	110.78	 17     1
  4	M2000-5			106.78	 16     9
  5	sladealonso		102.33	 16     2
  6	Marklar			100.89	 15    10
  7	Makarias		 95.11	 14     7
  8	scheivlak		 93.22	 12     8
  9	f1paul			 91.33	 13     5
 10	KWSN - DSM		 85.33	 12     4

rodlamas and SpaceHorseParty were the closest to the average pick, KWSN - DSM the farthest.

 

There will be an interim results topic posted soon. Only 14 months to go until we get the final results for this game!



#16 M2000-5

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 11:15

I think I will do badly. Any interim results?



#17 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 18:33

I think I will do badly. Any interim results?

Sorry, I haven't found the time to publish any interim results yet. But I hope to do it soon – and there is still one seat up for grabs!