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Indycar 1995 WatchParty Round 16: Molson Indy Vancouver (Start 6pm BST Sunday)


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#1 Risil

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 22:28

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Welcome back to the year of our lord MCMXCV! In this imagined but once-experienced parallel universe, the 1995 CART season continues to play out, more or less expectedly if you followed it the first time, but presumably unexpectedly if you didn’t. This weekend we imagine ourselves to be in BC Place, Vancouver, at a street circuit that looks sort of like a pancreas or deflated Imola. The track, being built around the Expo ‘86 site (itself built on, according to Wikipedia, “a former rail yard and industrial wasteland”) contains numerous chicanes and hairpins, a stadium, near-tunnel and what looks very much like a monorail. The layout is tight, unsubtle and favours whoever can get their car stopped, pointed and squirted in the least time. Interesting Vancouver Fact: False Creek, the body of water that BC Place sits at the eastern edge of, is in fact an inlet. You can thank me later!

The championship situation? The championship is 15 races old, and at that delicate stage where we can start thinking about declaring a champion so long as the fates cooperate and scatter the required good fortune in the correct places. Chief scatter beneficiary so far has been fresh-faced Canadian Jacques Villeneuve, who is yet to discover hair dye and saying rude things about his elders and is instead focused on making his relatively standard Reynard-Ford go faster than you’d think possible. After a succession of twists and unexpected winners, Penske’s Al Unser, Jr is the only driver close enough to pilfer the championship from Villeneuve’s pocket. With Jacques’ 35 point lead, with a maximum 44 remaining, it would have to be the pilfering of the century. But the Indy 500 was won from two laps down. And six of Unser’s last seven finishes have been on the podium. It could happen!
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One thing that did happen was qualifying, and you will be delighted to hear that Indycar’s three Canadians all made the top half of the starting grid, with Jacques Villeneuve most impressively starting from pole, and Scott Goodyear second-most-impressively starting on the outside of row 2. A fourth Canadian, Ross Bentley, took part in qualifying but was 29th quickest of 29, and the Vancouver circuit only holds 28. That is in fact one better than 1994, where he qualified 30th and still didn’t start because the Vancouver circuit wasn’t any bigger back then. Anyway, here’s how they line up.
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1. Jacques Villeneuve 55.226, Team Green R/F/G
2. Jimmy Vasser +0.277, Ganassi R/F/G
3. Bobby Rahal +0.297, Rahal/Hogan L/M/G
4. Scott Goodyear +0.411, Tasman R/H/F
5. Michael Andretti +0.436, Newman-Haas L/F/G
6. Teo Fabi +0.440, Forsythe R/F/G
7. Robby Gordon +0.644, Walker R/F/G
8. Gil de Ferran +0.706, Hall VDS R/M/G
9. Al Unser, Jr +0.814, Penske P/M/G
10. Scott Pruett +0.821, Patrick L/F/F
11. Mo Gugelmin +1.032, PacWest R/F/G
12. Paul Tracy +1.118, Newman-Haas L/F/G
 
Christian and Emerson Fittipaldi line up together 13th and 14th. Vasser’s teammate Bryan Herta starts in P15, with winner last time out Andre Ribeiro starting alongside him. Parker P22, Fangio a disappointing P24. Here’s your spotter’s guide:
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Vancouver had 29 entries, which means that this spotter’s guide is one car short. Changes from the top: Juan Fangio II continues to drive the PacWest formerly pedalled by Danny Sullivan, thePayton/Coyne car normally driven by Eric Bachelart was DNQed by Ross Bentley, Eddie Cheever has been replaced at Foyt with Brian Till, and the rotating Project Indy #64 seat goes this time to Domenico Schiattarella, who is back in CART after his Simtek team withdrew from Grand Prix racing. The extra entry is a second Tasman Motorsports car for notorious pace car truant Scott Goodyear.
 
We’ll get this started at the usual 6pm GMT on Sunday, 22 November. Video below. Enjoy!

 



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#2 FLB

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 22:42

We're baaaaaaaa-aaaaaaack!  :lol:  :clap:  :smoking:

 

Edit: I can't find it online, but I remember there was an incident in practice (on the Friday IIRC) between Emmo and Christian and, man, was Emmo peeved off...


Edited by FLB, 21 November 2020 - 22:51.


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Posted 21 November 2020 - 23:08

Shack FeelEnough.
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#4 paulb

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 00:04

Kewl. In for the fun.

#5 rghojai

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 07:08

IndyCat is unimpressed by the season's tire war, prefers another manufacturer.

 

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#6 jonpollak

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 09:21

I predict a puncture.
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#7 FLB

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 13:00

I predict a puncture.
Jp

Well of course! This is his 'business associate' and they have tires to sell for a reasonable price...  

 

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 15:52

'95 huh ? Thick ♐︎ year with both and in it together. Truly the Year of the Pig.

 

Was prepping to read a book but this sounds fun, so I think I'll join you lot, seeing that it's after that TransAm race at Road Atlanta

 

Also:

 

 

I really didn't like the 90's.



#9 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 17:04

I don't have much Youtube of the Vancouver street circuit from 1995, but in case you want to get familiar with the layout, here's an onboard with Michael Andretti from the 1990 race. I believe the layout remained the same till 1998, which was run on an almost completely different set of roads.

 

 

(Does anyone else find that patch of sky blue on Andretti's Lola's nose really ugly and out of place?)



#10 red stick

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 17:52

Kmart blue.  Back when Kmart was a thing.

 

Sponsorship aesthetic compromises are a bitch.   :cool:



#11 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 17:57

Is everyone ready? 3 mins!



#12 OvDrone

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 17:58

10-4. Doin' both TransAm live and Indy at 6pm sharp.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 17:59

I have to cook dinner.
It’s ok though I have the race on VHS.
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:00

Gooooo

#15 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:00

Aaand go!



#16 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:00

Angry Nige montage spotted



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:01

"Bobby Rahal has been the model of consistency"

 

[Cue footage of Rahal crashing into the wall at Mid-Ohio]



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:02

Villnoufv



#19 rghojai

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:02

We've been shameful for not discussing bodies of water in the Vancouver area.

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:02

Right... Portland's still under appeal!  :lol:  :drunk:



#21 red stick

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:02

I have to cook dinner.
It’s ok though I have the race on VHS.
Jp

VHS? When we were burglarized a decade ago the VHS player was the only electronic entertainment device left behind. :)

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:03

We've been shameful for not discussing bodies of water in the Vancouver area.

I did get False Creek into the OP. But I think it's uncontroversial to say that it's not a river.



#23 rghojai

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:04

PJ has a weird voice.

#24 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:04

A special surprise: PJ Jones!

 

I thought he said he was going to be testing "the evil chassis" for Dan Gurney ahead of 1996.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:04

Hiro!

#26 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:05

Eliseo Salazar has been my favourite backmarker this year.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:05

Hiro!

Mimmo!



#28 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:06

"Where are the trouble zones?" Only the corners.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:06

"Concrete barriers, which can end the day in an eyeblink" :drunk:



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:07

G R E E N



#31 red stick

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:07

Oops.

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:07

Love seeing all the mundane transportation happen in the background as the cars scream by at the start.



#33 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:08

Did Unser just launch De Ferran into outer space? Or was it one of the many other red and white cars.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:08

IndyCar! :lol: 



#35 FLB

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:09

I didn't remember they actually red-flagged it...



#36 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:09

That was a Formula E at Monaco level of clumsiness.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:09

We have plowing.

#38 red stick

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:09

I was a fan of Molson Ice back in the day.

#39 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:09

"Nothing you have seen counts"



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:10

That was a Formula E at Monaco level of clumsiness.

That chicane was always an issue.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:10

Ohwow. That ad attacked me with so much 90s.



#42 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:11

I was a fan of Molson Ice back in the day.

Whoever edited this VHS wasn't. He cut it off mid-advert!



#43 red stick

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:12

Beekhuis is ageless. Damn.

#44 rghojai

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:12

By the way, where TF is Thurman?

#45 Risil

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:12

Time to go again!



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:13

May yellows not breed yellows.

#47 red stick

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:13

A start waved off. When was the last time that happened?

#48 FLB

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:13

What the hell were Vasser and Villeneuve doing?



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:15

A start waved off. When was the last time that happened?

 

Either in 1999 or 2000 at Chicago I think Mark Blundell repeatedly jumped the start to the point where they threatened to send him to the back of the grid unless he stopped causing stars to be waved off.



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Posted 22 November 2020 - 18:15

Single file through the chicane works better.  ;)