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[pitlanepalpatine]

Does anyone know if the Brit medals are chronological? So do you have to go MBE > OBE > CBE > Knighthood? Do ye think they'll be giving Ross Brown a knighthood this year for F1's handling of Covid.

[Marklar]

Does anyone know if the Brit medals are chronological? So do you have to go MBE > OBE > CBE > Knighthood? Do ye think they'll be giving Ross Brown a knighthood this year for F1's handling of Covid.

No you can easily jump straight to Knighthood

[jcbc3]

Nice to see Hamilton's acceptance speech... from his tax haven in Monaco

 

Forget the Knighthood and give him a peerage, straight to Lord Hamilton of Bullshit

 

Yes, I'm a Lewis fan...

 

I believe your record is scratched.

[SirT]

Nice to see Hamilton's acceptance speech... from his tax haven in Monaco

 

Forget the Knighthood and give him a peerage, straight to Lord Hamilton of Bullshit

 

Yes, I'm a Lewis fan...

 

Not that it really matters but he wasn't.

 

Might be worth doing some research before you get the eyes rolling next time. 

[SophieB]

Does anyone know if the Brit medals are chronological? So do you have to go MBE > OBE > CBE > Knighthood? Do ye think they'll be giving Ross Brown a knighthood this year for F1's handling of Covid.

To add to what Marklar said, not only can you jump straight to the top, but in practice it seems to make it less likely if you’ve already been honoured with a top gong. It’s not usual to be granted the CBE and then later a Knighthood, because in practice the CBE is what you are getting instead of the knighthood, not like a stamp along the way to getting the main prize. But it does sometimes happen. Sir Frank was awarded the CBE before his later Knighthood, for example.

[BRG]

Nice to see Hamilton's acceptance speech... from his tax haven in Monaco

 

You have clearly not noticed that there are severe restrictions on both international travel and travel within the UK.  

[Rodaknee]

Does anyone know if the Brit medals are chronological? So do you have to go MBE > OBE > CBE > Knighthood? Do ye think they'll be giving Ross Brown a knighthood this year for F1's handling of Covid.

The British government have made a complete horlicks of their handling of the covid crisis.  There's no chance of them making awards to anyone who didn't cock it up.  I don't believe Brawn had anything to do with arranging races.

[CSF]

Nice to see Hamilton's acceptance speech... from his tax haven in Monaco

 

Forget the Knighthood and give him a peerage, straight to Lord Hamilton of Bullshit

 

Yes, I'm a Lewis fan...

 

 

Baron Hamilton the First of Croydon

[Tenmantaylor]

You have clearly not noticed that there are severe restrictions on both international travel and travel within the UK.  

 

Had he come 'home' for the ceremony in person he might have got stuck here! Imagine that, lockdown in Croydon instead of Monaco... 

[shure]

Nice to see Hamilton's acceptance speech... from his tax haven in Monaco

 

Forget the Knighthood and give him a peerage, straight to Lord Hamilton of Bullshit

 

Yes, I'm a Lewis fan...

tbh it's a bit irresponsible to travel now unless you really need to.  And while he definitely needs to travel to do his job, he definitely doesn't need to put himself at risk to accept an award.  The man's just recovering from a Covid case of his own, for goodness sake.  Why on earth should anyone judge him for not wanting to put himself at risk again (and yes, there have been documented cases of people getting it more than once)?

[68targa]

Damned if you do ....damned if you don't, Lewis.

If everyone did what Lewis did and take more care with their actions we would not be in the serious position we now find ourselves.

Edited by 68targa, 22 December 2020 - 16:28.

[JonathanProc]

Nice to see Hamilton's acceptance speech... from his tax haven in Monaco

 

Forget the Knighthood and give him a peerage, straight to Lord Hamilton of Bullshit

 

Yes, I'm a Lewis fan...

 

What titles do you have for DC and Jenson then?    Nobody seems to care about where the live(ed). 

[Ross Stonefeld]

Sir Mo Farah, the 2017 winner, has some credible suspicions about doping surrounding his career. I'll take Tax Cheat Lewis any day. Seems less of a knob and more of a personality anyways. But maybe he just needs a cheesy hand gesture to win people over. 

[Rodaknee]

What titles do you have for DC and Jenson then?    Nobody seems to care about where the live(ed). 

 

Or Jackie Stewart who hasn't paid tax in the UK for over 50 years, but when he started a charity - for personal reasons - came straight to UK tax payers with his collecting tins.

[Rodaknee]

Sir Mo Farah, the 2017 winner, has some credible suspicions about doping surrounding his career. I'll take Tax Cheat Lewis any day. Seems less of a knob and more of a personality anyways. But maybe he just needs a cheesy hand gesture to win people over. 

Farah is another tax exile

 

 

Last year Mo Farah was calling on the chancellor to crack down on tax avoidance. Now he want to be a tax exile.

 

https://leftfootforw...0-short-months/

[CSF]

Sir Mo Farah, the 2017 winner, has some credible suspicions about doping surrounding his career. I'll take Tax Cheat Lewis any day. Seems less of a knob and more of a personality anyways. But maybe he just needs a cheesy hand gesture to win people over. 

 

Not forgetting the Team Sky winners. 

 

I wish Zara Phillips had won in a year when social media was a thing.    Zara Phillips for god sake.

[Vitesse2]

Does anyone know if the Brit medals are chronological? So do you have to go MBE > OBE > CBE > Knighthood? Do ye think they'll be giving Ross Brown a knighthood this year for F1's handling of Covid.

Knighthoods are generally separate from the Order of the British Empire, which has both civil and military branches - as well as still being operative in some parts of the Commonwealth. Australia, Canada and New Zealand have all set up their own honours systems; only Australia's and New Zealand's ever included knighthoods. Australia has now abolished them (for the second time) but they are still awarded in New Zealand.

 

KBEs are very seldom awarded nowadays - and usually only to people who have rendered significant public or military service; retired senior officers, civil servants etc. Although all honorary knighthoods - awarded to foreign citizens - are also KBEs.

 

The official title is Knight Bachelor, a title which goes back to at least the 13th century, but it's a quirk of the system that there is no exact female equivalent title. Knights Bachelor do not derive their title from any chivalric order, so technically, a DBE (Dame of the British Empire), the honour given as the female equivalent of a knighthood, outranks a Knight Bachelor. There are other orders of chivalry of which one can be appointed a knight, but they are very specific: the Order of the Garter (in the personal gift of the Sovereign), the Order of the Thistle (ditto, but specifically relating to Scotland), the Order of the Bath (senior civil servants and military officers), The Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George (diplomatic service) and The Royal Victorian Order (for service to the Crown).

[ensign14]

And you can get the Knight Commander or Grand Cross of some of these.  Hence the Yes Minister line:

 

CMG = call me God

KCMG = kindly call me God

GCMG = God calls me God

 

("Bernard, Sir Humphrey is not God."

"Are you going to tell him or shall I?")

[Fastcake]

Farah is another tax exile


https://leftfootforw...0-short-months/

Is Oregon a tax haven? Eugene is a world centre for athletics, Farah had rather legitimate reasons for living there.

I don’t mind hitting people for this, even those I otherwise like, but you’re not automatically a tax exile for living abroad. Particularly sports people who need to live where their sport actually is. Even Monaco has the attraction of allowing famous people to live with a decree of privacy while still having a social life. (And the tax dodging obviously. I’m not an idiot )

[Rodaknee]

Is Oregon a tax haven? Eugene is a world centre for athletics, Farah had rather legitimate reasons for living there.

I don’t mind hitting people for this, even those I otherwise like, but you’re not automatically a tax exile for living abroad. Particularly sports people who need to live where their sport actually is. Even Monaco has the attraction of allowing famous people to live with a decree of privacy while still having a social life. (And the tax dodging obviously. I’m not an idiot )

Farah applied to be a tax exile.  You can look that up.

 

Nike closed Oregon due to the ban on Salazar. 

[Rodaknee]

Knighthoods are generally separate from the Order of the British Empire, which has both civil and military branches - as well as still being operative in some parts of the Commonwealth. Australia, Canada and New Zealand have all set up their own honours systems; only Australia's and New Zealand's ever included knighthoods. Australia has now abolished them (for the second time) but they are still awarded in New Zealand.

 

There are West Indian Knights too, practically all former cricketers. 

[Vitesse2]

There are West Indian Knights too, practically all former cricketers. 

Well aware of that. I did point out above that the honours system is still operative in several Commonwealth countries. And I actually highlighted the West Indian cricketing knights here - there are as many of them as there are English cricketing knights:

 

https://forums.autos...dpost&p=9302068

 

Only one Aussie - The Don of course - but Bill Woodfull apparently turned one down in 1934.

[ensign14]

Australia has now abolished them (for the second time) but they are still awarded in New Zealand.

Funny bump, because I found out recently who gave Edna Everage her damehood - Gough Whitlam.

 

It was a cameo appearance from the PM at the end of a Barry Humphries film.  The joke being that Whitlam, being a good socialist, had abolished knighthoods.