Jump to content


Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

George Russell to replace Lewis Hamilton at the Sakhir GP - Aitken to debut at Williams


  • Please log in to reply
714 replies to this topic

#701 chrcol

chrcol
  • Member

  • 3,634 posts
  • Joined: March 11

Posted 10 December 2020 - 15:12

I find really really strange that this huge and incredible messup happens exactly when Hamilton is not there for the first time.

Also, Russell denied not once but twice to try to get the win.

Conspirac theorists have a lot of food for thought

Merc have been a mess strategy wise for years.  Just unlucky for russell.



Advertisement

#702 Paul Parker

Paul Parker
  • Member

  • 2,198 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 10 December 2020 - 15:18

the odd win maybe, in variable conditions.  But let's not forget the Merc hasn't been developed for most if not all year because their cushion has been so great they've not needed to.  Max is a top driver and even he has to rely on Merc misfortune to do anything.  Let's not forget Russell almost certainly would have won on Sunday but for events wholly beyond his control.  Even Lewis wouldn't have been able to recover from that snafu, regardless of how much hammertime he used.  The Merc is in a league of its own and they would really have to make a complete pig's ear of it to lose either the WDC or WCC

It would never happen to LH.



#703 Clatter

Clatter
  • Member

  • 44,746 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 10 December 2020 - 15:22

Not so sure if Max was in the race that a win for Russell would be a certainty.....

 


But he was out of the race, and the circumstances as they were, do you think Russell would have lost that race without Merc's screwup?

#704 robefc

robefc
  • Member

  • 13,534 posts
  • Joined: July 08

Posted 10 December 2020 - 15:23

It would never happen to LH.


You mean the driver that wanted to box in Bahrain despite the gap being marginal in order to ensure he was on fresh tyres for SC restart?

Edited by robefc, 10 December 2020 - 15:24.


#705 MasterOfCoin

MasterOfCoin
  • Member

  • 5,001 posts
  • Joined: April 15

Posted 10 December 2020 - 15:43

But he was out of the race, and the circumstances as they were, do you think Russell would have lost that race without Merc's screwup?

The question was about if Russell's win was a certainty if Max was still in the race, it's debatable if Russell would still be leading after the 1st pitstop.....never mind the Merc screwup.....



#706 Clatter

Clatter
  • Member

  • 44,746 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 10 December 2020 - 15:52

The question was about if Russell's win was a certainty if Max was still in the race, it's debatable if Russell would still be leading after the 1st pitstop.....never mind the Merc screwup.....

 


Do you not think that the post was talking about how the race was at the point in time that Merc made the mistakes, and not from the very start?

#707 MasterOfCoin

MasterOfCoin
  • Member

  • 5,001 posts
  • Joined: April 15

Posted 10 December 2020 - 16:02

Do you not think that the post was talking about how the race was at the point in time that Merc made the mistakes, and not from the very start?

It was implied, but my follow up post was also suggesting that other drivers suffered misfortunes that potentially cost them a victory.....Perez was the who really lucked out.....



#708 Paco

Paco
  • Member

  • 7,251 posts
  • Joined: June 02

Posted 10 December 2020 - 16:09

The question was about if Russell's win was a certainty if Max was still in the race, it's debatable if Russell would still be leading after the 1st pitstop.....never mind the Merc screwup.....

 

Exactly, but Max could have made a mistake and cooked a corner and flat spotted a tire and ruined his race.

 

What if game never stops and impossible to draw any conclusions others then what "actually" transpired"...

 

This is the issue with all this Max this Max that hyperbole... its just based on soooooooo many assumptions that mean nothing than what happened.



#709 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 29,780 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 10 December 2020 - 20:27

So do we know what happened to Aitkens front wing? It seems like "twisted fate" for Russell's old car to betray him like that  :lol:.


Edited by ARTGP, 10 December 2020 - 20:27.


#710 Peat

Peat
  • Member

  • 8,862 posts
  • Joined: November 09

Posted 11 December 2020 - 12:57

Shocked to read that GR's Merc contract is for 10 years. (Though, that comes from Dr.Marko, so who knows)

I wonder when that was signed? Seems like he put all his eggs in the Merc basket early. 



#711 monolulu

monolulu
  • Member

  • 3,129 posts
  • Joined: March 10

Posted 11 December 2020 - 12:59

Shocked to read that GR's Merc contract is for 10 years. (Though, that comes from Dr.Marko, so who knows)

I wonder when that was signed? Seems like he put all his eggs in the Merc basket early. 

2016 I believe 



#712 ForzaFormula

ForzaFormula
  • Member

  • 3,190 posts
  • Joined: April 17

Posted 11 December 2020 - 13:03

Shocked to read that GR's Merc contract is for 10 years. (Though, that comes from Dr.Marko, so who knows)

I wonder when that was signed? Seems like he put all his eggs in the Merc basket early.

Why? So many getting their panties in a twist over this it’s funny

At such a young age being able to sign a 10 year contact with Mercedes is the ultimate dream and a no brainer. And also shows how much Mercedes value him .

On top of that contracts can be broken if another team sees it worth it, people are being extremely over dramatic regarding the length of his contact...

Edited by ForzaFormula, 11 December 2020 - 13:04.


#713 BRG

BRG
  • Member

  • 25,949 posts
  • Joined: September 99

Posted 11 December 2020 - 13:10

So do we know what happened to Aitkens front wing? It seems like "twisted fate" for Russell's old car to betray him like that  :lol:.

He ran wide and knocked it off on the barrier at the last corner



#714 fed up

fed up
  • Member

  • 3,692 posts
  • Joined: May 08

Posted 11 December 2020 - 13:16

Why? So many getting their panties in a twist over this it’s funny

At such a young age being able to sign a 10 year contact with Mercedes is the ultimate dream and a no brainer. And also shows how much Mercedes value him .

On top of that contracts can be broken if another team sees it worth it, people are being extremely over dramatic regarding the length of his contact...

 

It is ethically wrong to sign a young driver - aged 18 at the time - to such a long contract. I imagine there will be performance bonuses and exit clauses included in the contract, but the length of it is outrageous, if true.



#715 Peat

Peat
  • Member

  • 8,862 posts
  • Joined: November 09

Posted 11 December 2020 - 13:27

Why? So many getting their panties in a twist over this it’s funny

At such a young age being able to sign a 10 year contact with Mercedes is the ultimate dream and a no brainer. And also shows how much Mercedes value him .

On top of that contracts can be broken if another team sees it worth it, people are being extremely over dramatic regarding the length of his contact...

 

Ok, 'Suprised' to read. 

No panties being twisted, no drama and certainly no sleep being lost my end, pal.