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#1 absinthedude

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:16

As per Autosport, Interlagos has signed a new five year deal. This is great news.

 

https://www.autospor...with-interlagos



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#2 Risil

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:21

Nice!



#3 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:23

Good news.



#4 Anja

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:25

Is there anyone who doesn't like this piece of news?



#5 Marklar

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:26

Is there anyone who doesn't like this piece of news?

just wait until you read who is backing this race  :p



#6 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:29

just wait until you read who is backing this race  :p

 

Is it MechaHitler, coming out of hiding in Brazil for the first time since 1945?



#7 Alfisti

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:31

Has Yabbi Dabbi money backing it, that can't be good. 



#8 masa90

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:37

"Sao Paolo GP"

 

So are they planning another gp to Brazil? Really making the calendar too big huh? 



#9 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:40

"Sao Paolo GP"

 

So are they planning another gp to Brazil? Really making the calendar too big huh? 

 

This seems to be a Liberty thing. They also canned the Mexican Grand Prix in favour of the Mexico City Grand Prix (which hasn't been held because COVID).



#10 absinthedude

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:44

Apparently the renaming is due to the Sao Paolo local government having greater involvement....same with Mexico City. I don't think the new names have much of a ring to them but I would far rather have a race at Interlagos than not. It's a break in tradition but one we ought to be able to live quite easily with. 



#11 Fastcake

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 20:45

The new promoters are presumably not related to the mates of Bernie who previously ran the show and got a free race out of him, and Liberty apparently refused to deal with.



#12 NewMrMe

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 21:28

Maybe Silverstone could be renamed the Towcester Grand Prix just to see what mangled attempts at pronouncing it we get.



#13 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 21:31

Apparently the renaming is due to the Sao Paolo local government having greater involvement....same with Mexico City. I don't think the new names have much of a ring to them but I would far rather have a race at Interlagos than not. It's a break in tradition but one we ought to be able to live quite easily with. 

 

It's a shame that it robs the race of the national status that a Grand Prix is supposed to have.



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Posted 16 December 2020 - 21:40

It's a shame that it robs the race of the national status that a Grand Prix is supposed to have.

I think that is a fair point.  I'm not going to complain though, because losing national gov't funding could have been the death knell for both of these races.  Instead the local gov'ts have seen enough benefit to increase their funding to make sure it continues



#15 PlatenGlass

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 21:58

What's the most specific area* that a GP has been defined by? E.g. we've had the Caesars Palace GP.

*Whatever that means - smallest maybe.

#16 Clatter

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 22:06

It's a shame that it robs the race of the national status that a Grand Prix is supposed to have.

 


People will still call it the Brazilian GP. Personally I really don't care what they call it, it's the race that is the important thing.

#17 cpbell

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 22:06

As per Autosport, Interlagos has signed a new five year deal. This is great news.

 

https://www.autospor...with-interlagos

Absolutely.



#18 Heyli

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 22:13

Lovely!



#19 Astandahl

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 22:31

Thank god.



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#20 Calum

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Posted 16 December 2020 - 23:44

Great that Interlagos is back.  :clap:​ 

 

It's a shame that it robs the race of the national status that a Grand Prix is supposed to have.

 

I don't think it matters. Example: Sergio Perez isn't sad he won the Sakhir Grand Prix instead of Bahrain Grand Prix.  :lol:

 

There were lots of references to "Bahrain 2" anyway so I guess Brazilian Grand Prix will be heard/typed a lot in the coming 5 years.



#21 frosty125

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 00:02

Great news

#22 Dolph

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 00:10

One of my favourite tracks



#23 ArchieTech

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 00:25

This news makes me happy :up:



#24 Atreiu

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 00:36

Is there anyone who doesn't like this piece of news?


Bolsominions, comparable half-wits and people who stood to make money from the Rio debacle.

#25 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:15

Great that Interlagos is back. :clap:


I don't think it matters. Example: Sergio Perez isn't sad he won the Sakhir Grand Prix instead of Bahrain Grand Prix. :lol:

There were lots of references to "Bahrain 2" anyway so I guess Brazilian Grand Prix will be heard/typed a lot in the coming 5 years.


It’s different when you’re looking at a secondary Grand Prix in a country that has already hosted its national Grand Prix that year. You need another name in that case.

#26 RA2

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:18

Interlagos is ok, but it would have been better if the race returned to Jacarepaguá Olympic park (too bad they were not trying that rather throwing money at another circuit).

Edited by RA2, 17 December 2020 - 09:20.


#27 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:20

Interlagos is ok, but it would have been better if the race returned to Jacarepaguá Olympic park.


How would that have been better? It would have been a soulless Sochi clone.

#28 RA2

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:29

How would that have been better? It would have been a soulless Sochi clone.


Maybe, but atleast it would have brought some attention to that Olympic park which is quiet disused.

#29 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:29

Maybe, but atleast it would have brought some attention to that Olympic park which is quiet disused.

Thankfully they’re using the excellent circuit that is well loved and already exists.



#30 blackmme

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:50

I love Interlagos.  Great track and even from a distance a unique atmosphere and I hope to attend one day.

One caveat though to my enthusiasm is the barrier that separates the track from pit lane and sits at nearly a 90 degree angle to a very high speed section of the track (TechPro now I think). 

Especially in light of the Grosjean crash that barrier looks very risky to me.

 

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#31 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 09:58

Is every single barrier now going to be a source of worry for some of you?

 

It's a rounded concrete barrier with layers of belted tyres. No Grosjean-type accidents here.

 

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#32 blackmme

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 10:04

Is every single barrier now going to be a source of worry for some of you?

 

It's a rounded concrete barrier with layers of belted tyres. No Grosjean-type accidents here.

 

 

 

Cheers PayasYouRace, no every barrier doesn't worry me but actually that one still does.

 

Regards Mike



#33 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 10:15

I mean, I wouldn't particularly want to hit that wall, or any wall for that matter, but you have to have a gap in the barrier to enter the pits.



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Posted 17 December 2020 - 10:33

I mean, I wouldn't particularly want to hit that wall, or any wall for that matter, but you have to have a gap in the barrier to enter the pits.

 

Agreed it's a really tricky one and thankfully given that the worst case scenario has been avoided it does seem to be a low one.  

 

Regards Mike



#35 Risil

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 11:29

The racing line through that bend brings drivers very close to the barrier in normal conditions, I think that's why it looks so scary in onboards. I dunno, is it more dangerous than the "attenuator" at Indy?



#36 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 11:46

While searching for photos I actually came across this old thread: https://forums.autos...-changes-split/

 

The 1996-1998 pit entrance still seems like the safest, and looks like what was being proposed back in 2011 too.



#37 blackmme

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 12:00

While searching for photos I actually came across this old thread: https://forums.autos...-changes-split/

 

The 1996-1998 pit entrance still seems like the safest, and looks like what was being proposed back in 2011 too.

 

That does look better but it's quite a steep drop behind the pits. I'm guessing it didn't happen for reasons of cost, a lot of earth would need moving.

 

Regards Mike



#38 Pete_f1

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 12:05

What's the odd bot of armco used for?

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 12:22



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#40 Fastcake

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 13:21

The old pit entry was potentially dangerous, but since they reconfigured it a few years ago the risk has been greatly reduced.

While searching for photos I actually came across this old thread: https://forums.autos...-changes-split/

The 1996-1998 pit entrance still seems like the safest, and looks like what was being proposed back in 2011 too.


According to that thread, work on the new circuit in Rio was meant to begin in 2013. :lol:

With that pace of construction the chance of the race ever moving seems slim.

#41 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 13:27

We also never got the new pits on the back straight which we were supposed to get in 2013 or so.



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Posted 17 December 2020 - 13:38

I mean, I wouldn't particularly want to hit that wall, or any wall for that matter, but you have to have a gap in the barrier to enter the pits.

I've always thought the Interlagos pit entrance has looked dangerous. Most tracks don't split off the track and pits at such a speed so they avoid it.

#43 Augurk

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 13:54

Great news, excellent track that produces excellent racing more often than not.

Wondering if Rio was only used as a bargaining chip. 



#44 absinthedude

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Posted 17 December 2020 - 14:28

I remember playing Geoff Crammond's first "grand prix" game based on the 1991 season and feeling that was not without risk....my fear is what if a car on the inside line tangles with a car to it's right and heads into the barrier. Probably less serious than Grosjean but still one hell of a crash. But it's difficult to see how it could be safer unless they have a pit entry two corners earlier?



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Posted 17 December 2020 - 14:45

What's the most specific area* that a GP has been defined by? E.g. we've had the Caesars Palace GP.

*Whatever that means - smallest maybe.

Monaco I presume is the dull answer



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Posted 17 December 2020 - 16:38

Interlagos is ok, but it would have been better if the race returned to Jacarepaguá Olympic park (too bad they were not trying that rather throwing money at another circuit).

 

Jacarepagua was never an interesting circuit although the location was great with it's superb backdrop but for sure Interlagos is a far more exciting track.
 

This is what it looks right now (every sign of the circuit is gone)
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#47 Atreiu

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 01:35

They can use it for rallying.



#48 efuloni

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 01:51

Apparently the renaming is due to the Sao Paolo local government having greater involvement....same with Mexico City. I don't think the new names have much of a ring to them but I would far rather have a race at Interlagos than not. It's a break in tradition but one we ought to be able to live quite easily with.


There is a bit of political quarrel aswell. Bolsonaro publicly tried to lure the GP to his political base, in Rio, and Sao Paulo's governor, who is one of his main opositors, fought back to keep the race in SP. So the governor, by changing the name of the race, is claiming this as his personal victory, unrelated to the president.

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 02:20

There is a bit of political quarrel aswell. Bolsonaro publicly tried to lure the GP to his political base, in Rio, and Sao Paulo's governor, who is one of his main opositors, fought back to keep the race in SP. So the governor, by changing the name of the race, is claiming this as his personal victory, unrelated to the president.

 

It remains to be seen who has the last laugh. It seems like Sao Paolo governor sold out to Abu Dhabi in some way. 


Edited by ARTGP, 18 December 2020 - 02:20.


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Posted 18 December 2020 - 13:39

Perhaps Abu Dhabi have finally heard all the criticism of their home circuit so now they have 'acquired' one of the best tracks instead.

 

Maybe they will move it to the Gulf....