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[jimjimjeroo]

Ferrari lead the way with launching their car so far!

https://www.motorspo...t-2021/4929456/

 

[Mod edit to add full list of launches for reference]

 

McLaren - 15 February

AlphaTauri - 19 February

Alfa Romeo - 22 February

Red Bull - 23 February

Mercedes - 2 March

Alpine - 2 March

Aston Martin - 3 March

Williams - 5 March

Ferrari - 10 March

Haas - TBC

Edited by midgrid, 19 February 2021 - 12:13.
added full launch list for reference

[Beri]

No hard date set so it seems. Testing is at the beginning of March, so 2.5 months remaining.

[jimjimjeroo]

https://www.motorspo...h-date/4935703/

[BRG]

Not a lot of point to launching the 2020 car again, is there?

[masa90]

Not a lot of point to launching the 2020 car again, is there?

For teams perspective yes there is. The sponsors will be really happy to see their logos posted all over social media and publications.

[PayasYouRace]

Not a lot of point to launching the 2020 car again, is there?

 

It's interesting that the Aston Martin articles says, "The team has confirmed that it will officially unveil its new car and livery for 2021 next month, but is yet to announce an exact date for the launch" [bolding mine].

 

So I'm curious as to what exactly the Aston Martin is going to be.

[owenmahamilton]

It's interesting that the Aston Martin articles says, "The team has confirmed that it will officially unveil its new car and livery for 2021 next month, but is yet to announce an exact date for the launch" [bolding mine].

 

So I'm curious as to what exactly the Aston Martin is going to be.

 

It depends on whether they are being classed as a whole new team, if so then I guess they can do whatever they want, if it's just a renaming of the Racing Point team which is what I expect it to be then it will be the 2020 Racing Point painted in the new Aston Martin livery with the changes to the chassis that are allowed under the 2021 regulations.

Edited by owenmahamilton, 04 January 2021 - 19:12.

[BRG]

 

So I'm curious as to what exactly the Aston Martin is going to be.

It's going to be the green pink Mercedes.

[ARTGP]

It's interesting that the Aston Martin articles says, "The team has confirmed that it will officially unveil its new car and livery for 2021 next month, but is yet to announce an exact date for the launch" [bolding mine].

 

So I'm curious as to what exactly the Aston Martin is going to be.

 

 

If the name changes, it's a "new car". Has been this way for decades. Not really much of a mystery.

Edited by ARTGP, 04 January 2021 - 23:08.

[jimjimjeroo]

Alpine have released renders of the new livery

https://www.motors-a...ce=f1-addict-en

[PayasYouRace]

If the name changes, it's a "new car". Has been this way for decades. Not really much of a mystery.

This is hardly happened in F1. I certainly can’t think of many examples where the same car has been used by different constructors (even in the same team) and they changed the name. Even Ferrari still called their ex-Lancia D50s D50s. When Ligier became Prost the JS45 had already been launched and they kept the name.

[Burai]

Alpine have released renders of the new livery

https://www.motors-a...ce=f1-addict-en

 

No they haven't. It's just an interim press launch livery.

 

“I’m very proud to show you for the first time an F1 car for this season,” said Rossi. “Stay tuned, we’ll unveil the livery of the newly-minted A521 next month.”

[jimjimjeroo]

https://www.motorspo...enault/5015909/

You're right I read a translated page

[Aaaarrgghh]

This is hardly happened in F1. I certainly can’t think of many examples where the same car has been used by different constructors (even in the same team) and they changed the name. Even Ferrari still called their ex-Lancia D50s D50s. When Ligier became Prost the JS45 had already been launched and they kept the name.

With a healthy dose of footnotes and asterisks and without delving into controversial copies like the first Arrows, you could make a case for the first Wolf-Williams being a renamed Hesketh, Super Aguri using the old Arrows (and in later years the old Honda) and the early Toro Rosso cars using the previous year's Red Bull. So it has happened a few times. But in general I would agree with you, it's more common to keep the name than not. Racing Point is a recent example as well, although that was of course mid-season.

Edited by Aaaarrgghh, 14 January 2021 - 10:16.

[FirstnameLastname]

With a healthy dose of footnotes and asterisks and without delving into controversial copies like the first Arrows, you could make a case for the first Wolf-Williams being a renamed Hesketh, Super Aguri using the old Arrows (and in later years the old Honda) and the early Toro Rosso cars using the previous year's Red Bull. So it has happened a few times. But in general I would agree with you, it's more common to keep the name than not. Racing Point is a recent example as well, although that was of course mid-season.

Did BAR not then use the Super Aguri/Arrows to get ideas for their own car too?

[Nemo1965]

This is hardly happened in F1. I certainly can’t think of many examples where the same car has been used by different constructors (even in the same team) and they changed the name. Even Ferrari still called their ex-Lancia D50s D50s. When Ligier became Prost the JS45 had already been launched and they kept the name.

Ehm.. no. Sorry for granddad to bust in. The Fittipaldi-team bought the Wolf-team at the end of 1979, and the Wolf WR7/8/9 became the Fittipaldi F7 in 1980. Not a bad car by any means, Rosberg finished 3rd in the first GP of 1980.  Then there was also Osella who used an Alfa Romeo-chassis for their 1984 car (I believe).

 

There are many, many instances of cars being renamed in F1. This was just out of the top of my head. The Dutch magazine RTL GP even has a regular page about it, called Inglorious Bastards.

 

EDIT:

 

A quicks search already yielded these results:

 

Apollon-Cosworth 

Was Williams FW03

 

Merzario A4

 

Was Kauhsen

 

 

Pacific PR 01

Was Reynard

Edited by Nemo1965, 14 January 2021 - 11:22.

[PayasYouRace]

That’s actually a surprisingly long list.

[Nemo1965]

That’s actually a surprisingly long list.

 

I am sure there are many more, these are just the ones I could quickly find in the Facebook-page of above said magazine. If I have time, I will post some more.

[Beri]

I am sure there are many more, these are just the ones I could quickly find in the Facebook-page of above said magazine. If I have time, I will post some more.

 

Interesting. Will need to scour through some volumes of said magazine to find some more examples you've mentioned. In the process I will be likely to stumble upon some articles by our Henri as well.

 

Thanks for this info, will have something usefull to do this weekend 

[f1paul]

2 March for Merc

[Branislav]

2 March for Merc

So Lewis will be standing by the new car without contract. Epic 

[FirstnameLastname]

McLaren launch on 15th Feb too... and they’ve tweaked the team logo/identity to ‘prepare them for the modern digital age’ or some other bull crap. Essentially the ‘speedmark’ is now orange again....

I’d imagine most of these launches are going to be digital renders and livery reveals with photo handouts of drivers in their race suits rather than seeing actual cars. Perfect chance to keep the real cars under wraps until they rock up at Bahrain.

[Branislav]

I think real cars we will see when we land in Bahrain

[aportinga]

Ferrari lead the way with launching their car so far!

https://www.motorspo...t-2021/4929456/

 

Looking forward to one of Joe Bidens key promises - making the Ferrari front and rear wings black again!

[Otaku]

Can some1 edit the 1st post with all the confirmed dates?

[sportyskells]

Speaking of confirmed f1 launch dates Williams will show off the car on March 5

[Imperial]

I think real cars we will see when we land in Bahrain

 

Indeed, they should really name these launches what they actually are:

 

2021 Livery and Sponsor Launch

[Pete_f1]

Remember the massive parties some teams used to have? I remember McLaren has the Spice Girls one year.

[FirstnameLastname]

FW43B

Keeping the Frank Williams nod, and also their first ‘b spec’ since 1993

[Imperial]

Remember the massive parties some teams used to have? I remember McLaren has the Spice Girls one year.

 

Mclaren's launches were ridiculous, and were most certainly a bubble that would someday burst.

 

They did some massive Cirque de Soleil thing one year, and it was there I learned that Mika Hakkinen is an expert unicyclist.

[FirstnameLastname]

McLaren launch their car tomorrow, looking forward to it!

[Grenville]

The Ferrari launch last year was a complete borefest. I hope they don't do the same this year.

[JimmyClark]

Remember the massive parties some teams used to have? I remember McLaren has the Spice Girls one year.

 

The 90s and early 00s were they heydey of crazy launches. Even Minardi used to have big jamborees. 

 

Benetton and Renault in particular were particularly memorable under Flavio's stewardship. 

[dannyricsshoe]

FW43B

Keeping the Frank Williams nod, and also their first ‘b spec’ since 1993

If there other cars were a spec and this is b then is that a way of waving a white flag?
They should be completely working on next season I guess.

[PayasYouRace]

If there other cars were a spec and this is b then is that a way of waving a white flag?
They should be completely working on next season I guess.

 

Every team is using a "B spec" car this year. That's part of what was agreed when the new rules were pushed back.

[Pete_f1]

Remember the McLaren 'D' spec car one year was pretty fast.

[Stephane]

FW43B

Keeping the Frank Williams nod, and also their first ‘b spec’ since 1993

 

It's only know i see there was no FW39. Someone knows why ?

[FirstnameLastname]

I believe the FW39 fell on their 40th anniversary so they wanted FW40 to celebrate their 40th year

[PayasYouRace]

It's only know i see there was no FW39. Someone knows why ?

It was to have the FW40 on the 40th anniversary of the team.

It was openly stated by the team.

[Stephane]

Makes sense.

 

Now, they will have to skip again for the 50th 

[FirstnameLastname]

Alpine launch on March 2nd
Aston launch in March 3rd

[Otaku]

So who's next, and when? Is McLaren the only one to have shown a REAL car so far?

[Anja]

19.02 - Alpha Tauri 

22.02 - Alfa Romeo

2.03 - Mercedes

2.03 - Alpine

3.03 - Aston Martin

5.03 - Williams

10.03 - Ferrari

[FirstnameLastname]

Alpha Tauri at 8am tomorrow UK time...

[Otaku]

Thx guys!

[w1Y]

19.02 - Alpha Tauri
22.02 - Alfa Romeo
2.03 - Mercedes
2.03 - Alpine
3.03 - Aston Martin
5.03 - Williams
10.03 - Ferrari

Red bull ??

[Anja]

Not announced yet.

[thegamer23]

Edited by thegamer23, 19 February 2021 - 08:10.

[Beggysmalls]

Gives me really early 2000s williams vibes

[TheAviator]

Looks awful tbh