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[Beri]

Just for fun, here's my latest Norwich layout.
 
Note street names and T1, T2 etc.
 

That looks like a proper racing circuit
Even more than "just" a Formula E circuit.

[cpbell]

That looks like a proper racing circuit
Even more than "just" a Formula E circuit.

Thanks!  I was worried that people might have thought it was a late entry for the competition or something.

[Ben1445]

Honestly I've had such a hard time choosing here...but I've put in a vote for the Rabat ePrix. I just think the location and layout would lend itself really well to a real life ePrix.

 

My honourable mentions go to Ashgabat, Jacksonville, Vienna and St. Moriz. 

 

But all in all I think this was a very good year to entries! Looking forward to seeing the final vote tallies 

[FredrikB]

We have a winner!

It's: Jacksonville, Florida ePrix  by maximilian,
The ingenious use of the roads of Jacksonville give maximilllian the win this year!

  

 

 

So, maximillian will have the honours of being the organizer of the 2021 Unofficial FE street circuit design competition! 

The winning layout:

[FredrikB]

The podium:

 

1. Jacksonville, Florida ePrix Jacksonville, maximilian,
2. The St.Moritz Super ePrix, thegamer23
3. Ashgabat ePrix, Frood

[maximilian]

  Wow, thank you, all! 

 

I promise to be an organizer of the 2021 Unofficial FE Street Circuit Design Competition for ALL of us, NOT just for those who voted for me.  Now is a time to heal and to unite!   

 

May Sato bless you, and may Sato bless the Autosport Forum Unofficial FE Street Circuit Design Competition.   

Edited by maximilian, 16 January 2021 - 21:12.

[Ben1445]

A worthy winner! And a very worthy podium too.

[thegamer23]

Woah, never expected to be on the podium this year, i'm happy! 😄

Massive congrats to Max, deserved win with that bonkers layout.
So well made, even the graphics: it just felt like a potential winner from day 1.

Also congrats to FrederikB for the championship organization, and thanks to everyone involved for the fun!!

[M66R]

Here follows a press release from the Fenland Eprix committee

"We, the organisers of the Fenland Eprix are obviously disappointed with this outcome. We will come back stronger next year with an alternative layout worthy of the trophy.

We wish to extend our gratitude to the one person that voted for us

We also want to congratulate Jacksonville as a worthy winner and the rest of the competitors who made up an excellent selection once again.

Peace out, mic drop"

Edited by M66R, 17 January 2021 - 10:36.

[cpbell]

  Wow, thank you, all! 

 

I promise to be an organizer of the 2021 Unofficial FE Street Circuit Design Competition for ALL of us, NOT just for those who voted for me.  Now is a time to heal and to unite!   

 

May Sato bless you, and may Sato bless the Autosport Forum Unofficial FE Street Circuit Design Competition.   

Congratulations!  I must admit, when I first saw your design, I thought it was a joke entry, but, on closer examination, I realised it was actually very well thought-out, and it's a deserving winner.

[cpbell]

Here follows a press release from the Fenland Eprix committee

"We, the organisers of the Fenland Eprix are obviously disappointed with this outcome. We will come back stronger next year with an alternative layout worthy of the trophy.

We wish to extend our gratitude to the one person that voted for us

We also want to congratulate Jacksonville as a worthy winner and the rest of the competitors who made up an excellent selection once again.

Peace out, mic drop"

Much the same from the Norwich team(!) who noticed a far superior layout after the deadline had elapsed.

Edited by cpbell, 17 January 2021 - 12:29.

[TheWilliamzer]

This vote was RIGGED! Stop the count!

[Risil]

Congratulations Maxi! And thank you to everyone who submitted designs and proposals, it was lots of fun poring over them

[cpbell]

This vote was RIGGED! Stop the count!

Count the votes!

Edited by cpbell, 17 January 2021 - 16:59.

[FredrikB]

This vote was RIGGED! Stop the count!

 

This claim about election fraud is disputed!

[Beri]

Congrats Maxi! Enjoy while it lasts

[cpbell]

Statement from the Norwich team:

 

 

We would like to congratulate the team behind the winning entry from Jacksonville on their success.  They employed an innovative and exciting design which was a worthy winner, and we anticipate seeing an e-Prix there in due course.  Following our bad showing, we have decided to sit-out the 2021 competition, giving us an opportunity to come back for 2022 with a superior proposal to either of the designs we entered last year.  However, we are supporting a proposal from outside the UK that has historical resonance and a close link to our city via. a Bridge of Friendship.

Edited by cpbell, 21 January 2021 - 15:20.

[maximilian]

[NewMrMe]

Congratulation Max. Loved the idea of your circuit.

[cpbell]

I'm working on my entry/entries for this year's competition and was wondering if I could have a ruling from those who are likely to be entering designs of their own, please.  I decided to plan a circuit in a city that, as far as I was aware, had no street racing heritage.  I later found that there is a street race around a mile from the nearest point on my circuit.  Would this be considered acceptable?

Edited by cpbell, 21 January 2021 - 18:25.

[Beri]

It's an entry of something that doesn't exist. So I'd say; yes, that would be acceptable.

[cpbell]

It's an entry of something that doesn't exist. So I'd say; yes, that would be acceptable.

Thanks.  There isn't any overlap between the real track and my design.  One of the streets I use does join end-on with a street that is part of the real circuit, but the part I'm using is about 3/4 mile from the point where they join, and there's about another 1/4 mile to the real track, if you see what I mean!

Edited by cpbell, 21 January 2021 - 19:27.

[cpbell]

Hang on a moment - one of my locations is besed on a Centenary in 2021, but is this going to be a 2022 competition given that we'll be voting then? 

[maximilian]

I'd say that if FE can have a 2020/21 Season entirely in 2021 (and not even due to Covid!), then we can get away with some calendar massaging as well! 

[cpbell]

I'd say that if FE can have a 2020/21 Season entirely in 2021 (and not even due to Covid!), then we can get away with some calendar massaging as well! 

Cheers!  Makes my life much easier!  What's your view on the other problem that we're discussing in PM, regarding my other city having a street circuit I was unaware of?

[maximilian]

Just to repeat what I told you in PM, I don't see any issues with having a circuit in a city that actually has a circuit already, as long as the track is significantly different (judgment call, I know... but with as little overlap as possible) - such as thegamer23's Imola entry from the past.

 

Hell, even FE themselves did it!  Montreal already HAD a track, and they STILL created another one in a different location! 

[cpbell]

Just to repeat what I told you in PM, I don't see any issues with having a circuit in a city that actually has a circuit already, as long as the track is significantly different (judgment call, I know... but with as little overlap as possible) - such as thegamer23's Imola entry from the past.

 

Hell, even FE themselves did it!  Montreal already HAD a track, and they STILL created another one in a different location! 

Thanks - perhaps others who intend to enter can give their views if they would like to do so, in particular if they disagree.  Feel free to PM me if anyone has any questions as to what I'm doing and why.  I didn't want to give away what I was planning as that should wait for when the competition opens later this year.

[NewMrMe]

I had been thinking about other ideas and did have one that involved re-using a section (straight only, no corners re-used) from a former circuit that is no longer used. In my opinion some overlap is acceptable but the majority of the circuit in terms of both length and number of corners should be original.

 

A real life example of something I think should not be permitted would be the Monaco Formula E circuit (assuming it didn't already exist) as the majority of that track is from the F1 circuit.

 

An example of overlap I think would be okay are the two Vancouver layouts that CART used. Turns 8 to 10 on the 1990-97 circuit are the same roads as turns 4 to 6 on the 1998-2004 track. That is only a small section of the track that is the same.

[cpbell]

I had been thinking about other ideas and did have one that involved re-using a section (straight only, no corners re-used) from a former circuit that is no longer used. In my opinion some overlap is acceptable but the majority of the circuit in terms of both length and number of corners should be original.

 

A real life example of something I think should not be permitted would be the Monaco Formula E circuit (assuming it didn't already exist) as the majority of that track is from the F1 circuit.

 

An example of overlap I think would be okay are the two Vancouver layouts that CART used. Turns 8 to 10 on the 1990-97 circuit are the same roads as turns 4 to 6 on the 1998-2004 track. That is only a small section of the track that is the same.

Having changed the streets used in the city in question, it no longer uses the street that was used for racing in the past.  My other plan is still around a mile from a current street crcuit, though.

Edited by cpbell, 24 January 2021 - 17:14.

[BRG]

I think the whole issue needs to be referred to a FIA Tribunal.  We cannot allow any sort of fudging of the rules.  That might be OK when it is track limit or something unimportant like that, but this is a serious matter.

[PayasYouRace]

As long as it’s not a real layout it’s fine. We had this issue last time with the Halifax Citadel Hill entry.

[cpbell]

As long as it’s not a real layout it’s fine. We had this issue last time with the Halifax Citadel Hill entry.

Well, as I said, the plan I had that re-used an historic street now misses that area, and the other one is around a mile from a current street circuit that I'd never heard of.

[cpbell]

Both my designs are finalised!

[jcbc3]

Are you being premature a trait?

[cpbell]

Are you being premature a trait?

Slightly!

[jcbc3]

Some people are born late. Some prematurely. I was lucky. I came out right at my birthday 

[cpbell]

Some people are born late. Some prematurely. I was lucky. I came out right at my birthday 

[cpbell]

Scrap that - had to eliminate one.

[jcbc3]

Early withdrawal