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What date will Lewis sign for Mercedes in 2021?


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Poll: When will Lewis sign for Mercedes? (172 member(s) have cast votes)

When will Lewis sign back up with Mercedes?

  1. 4 January (2 votes [1.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  2. 5 January (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  3. 6 January (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  4. 7 January (2 votes [1.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  5. 8-10 January (Fri-Sun) (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  6. 11 January (3 votes [1.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.74%

  7. 12 January (2 votes [1.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  8. 13 January (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  9. 14 January (4 votes [2.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  10. 15-17 January (Fri-Sun) (3 votes [1.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.74%

  11. 18 January (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  12. 19 January (3 votes [1.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.74%

  13. 20 January (2 votes [1.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  14. 21 January (4 votes [2.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  15. 22-24 January (Fri-Sun) (2 votes [1.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  16. 25 January (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  17. 26 January (1 votes [0.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.58%

  18. 27 January (2 votes [1.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  19. 28-31 January (Thu-Sun) (4 votes [2.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  20. It won't be in January (132 votes [76.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 76.74%

Or maybe he won't sign the dotted line in January?

  1. It'll definitely be January. (36 votes [20.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.93%

  2. Correct, he'll sign in February (59 votes [34.30%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.30%

  3. It'll be March actually (17 votes [9.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.88%

  4. He'll do a race-by-race deal, like Ayrton Senna in 1993 (11 votes [6.40%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.40%

  5. He'll retire: we are being taken for FOOLS (49 votes [28.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.49%

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#1451 Requiem84

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 06:59

Most are greatful just for getting one. Most are fearful for their job. Most don’t have a team saying we will get it to. Most don’t have trust between themselves to wait. Most aren’t the champion that Lewis still at the top of his game.


I guess those reasons are exactly why Lewis always waited signing his contract a few weeks before testing.

Oh wait, he DIDN’T.

Whatever way you spin it, it is quite unusual. Does it mean anything bad? Not necessarily. But it is somewhat strange.

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#1452 shure

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 07:03

Most are greatful just for getting one. Most are fearful for their job. Most don’t have a team saying we will get it to. Most don’t have trust between themselves to wait. Most aren’t the champion that Lewis still at the top of his game.

I don't understand how you can say all that in acknowledgement of the pressures many drivers experience when signing a contract and at the same time say it's their own fault and they made their bed when they sign a contract that doesn't give them a great deal of flexibility?



#1453 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 07:53

No, Schumacher’s legacy didn’t take a dent nor will Lewis’ when he is eventually defeated.

Maybe Lewis wants the opportunity to get an 8th title, 100 wins and 100 polls and then be in a position to enjoy F1, like Kimi, Alonso and Vettel. Does he really want the pressure of AMG Mercedes on his back for next 2/3 years?


Empty is the Soul that craves for numbers.

#1454 Maximilyan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 08:23

Empty is the Soul that craves for numbers.

You should probably stop watching sports. Or any form of competition for that matter. Numbers and records is a big part of it.....



#1455 Marklar

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 09:02

so 77 % were right :p

#1456 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 09:06

You should probably stop watching sports. Or any form of competition for that matter. Numbers and records is a big part of it.....



No it isn't
It is very vain looks on things

Sport is about achievements. Achievements that cannot be measured in numbers. About suffering, sacrifices and comebacks.

Buddy Lazier was milimetres away from becaming double quadriplegic, yet he became Indy500 winner in less than two months. How do you measure that with numbers.

Niki Lauda was a goner, even received his Last Rites. Rejected them fondly and went on to win two more titles. How do you measure that with numbers?

Davey Allison almost died at Pocono, came back, drove with shattered arm, lost a brother, climbed in a helicopter and lost a life. Ernie Irvan came and drove for him. Than crashed and almost died himself. Came back and drove again. How do you measure that with numbers.

Junior carried the burden of his last name throughout most of his carrer. The burden cracked and burned him. Destroyed him. But the nation cheered. And cheered. How do you measure that in numbers?

#1457 shure

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:35

No it isn't
It is very vain looks on things

Sport is about achievements. Achievements that cannot be measured in numbers. About suffering, sacrifices and comebacks.

Buddy Lazier was milimetres away from becaming double quadriplegic, yet he became Indy500 winner in less than two months. How do you measure that with numbers.

Niki Lauda was a goner, even received his Last Rites. Rejected them fondly and went on to win two more titles. How do you measure that with numbers?

Davey Allison almost died at Pocono, came back, drove with shattered arm, lost a brother, climbed in a helicopter and lost a life. Ernie Irvan came and drove for him. Than crashed and almost died himself. Came back and drove again. How do you measure that with numbers.

Junior carried the burden of his last name throughout most of his carrer. The burden cracked and burned him. Destroyed him. But the nation cheered. And cheered. How do you measure that in numbers?

There are always outliers but generally speaking numbers are used quite extensively in sports.  That's why Brazil is held up as the standard bearer in football (soccer) for the number of World Cups they have won, or why we generally hold multiple WDCs in higher regard than one-time winners.  A single victory is still an achievement but multiple wins show consistent excellence.



#1458 noikeee

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:41

Those are incredible stories, but I'd rather get the numbers without having to do those sacrifices...



#1459 uraharakisuke

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:56

No it isn't
It is very vain looks on things

Sport is about achievements. Achievements that cannot be measured in numbers. About suffering, sacrifices and comebacks.

Buddy Lazier was milimetres away from becaming double quadriplegic, yet he became Indy500 winner in less than two months. How do you measure that with numbers.

 

5 millimetres, 4 limbs, 500 miles and 2 months.



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#1460 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 11:12

Those are incredible stories, but I'd rather get the numbers without having to do those sacrifices...


I think you wrote somewhere that you are iRacer

So I'll explain you in iRacing terms.

Would you be satisfied with numbers (race wins, poles, top5s if they were all achieved in the Bottom Split?

#1461 noikeee

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 11:15

I think you wrote somewhere that you are iRacer

So I'll explain you in iRacing terms.

Would you be satisfied with numbers (race wins, poles, top5s if they were all achieved in the Bottom Split?

 

No but I'd rather have achievements without having to endure horrible personal tragedies thanks. Life isn't a competition of who's suffered the most. Actually life isn't a competition, but we're getting a bit phylosophical here...



#1462 DeKnyff

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:03

No but I'd rather have achievements without having to endure horrible personal tragedies thanks. Life isn't a competition of who's suffered the most. Actually life isn't a competition, but we're getting a bit phylosophical here...

Life is not a competition, but motor racing certainly is.

 

The cases Lazier or Lauda can be moving from a human POV and great for a movie or motivational talks. But their efforts to come back to the top are only side stories in what concerns motorsport. Lazier and Lauda are relevant to the sport because they won. Other drivers, like Wendlinger or Kubica, suffered equally horrible crashes, came back and failed. And nobody cares about them.



#1463 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:11



Life is not a competition, but motor racing certainly is.

The cases Lazier or Lauda can be moving from a human POV and great for a movie or motivational talks. But their efforts to come back to the top are only side stories in what concerns motorsport. Lazier and Lauda are relevant to the sport because they won. Other drivers, like Wendlinger or Kubica, suffered equally horrible crashes, came back and failed. And nobody cares about them.


I care.

For example I mentioned Ernie Irvan. He is the driver that falls in that category.

#1464 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:12

5 millimetres, 4 limbs, 500 miles and 2 months.


How dare you measure the Great Buddy’s achievements with mere numbers. Haha!

#1465 pdac

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:24

Any sport that measures (heights, length time, points, etc.) is a sport where only the numbers matter. Otherwise, it's rhythmic gymnastics.



#1466 DeKnyff

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:36

I care.

For example I mentioned Ernie Irvan. He is the driver that falls in that category.

 

I also care about him and about the others. But like human stories. The moment the race starts, the only thing is who is the fastest.



#1467 Jerem

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:40

I came here when the thread was created to vote "won't be in January" and never came back to read the thread because I had no idea what there would be to discuss besides the poll.
Glad to see the thread's still alive and well, just came to say this:

 

I was right from the beginning.



#1468 noikeee

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:52

I think by Melbourne FP1 we'll be witnessing Toto, contract and pen in his hands, chasing Lewis in circles around the garage, Benny Hill style.



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:54

I came here when the thread was created to vote "won't be in January" and never came back to read the thread because I had no idea what there would be to discuss besides the poll.
Glad to see the thread's still alive and well, just came to say this:

 

I was right from the beginning.

You are amazing. A shame you didn't read the thread, because we regularly mentioned you. Some excerpts:

 

"Look at that outrageous prediction by Jerem, he said it won't be January!"

"That's a cheeky vote by Jerem right there!"

"I wouldn't dismiss Jerem, he is a visionary with an excellent track record."

"Goodness me January is almost over and the contract hasn't been signed, did Jerem know something we don't?"

and finally "The legendary Jerem called it yet again!".

 

Thanks for checking in, and now carry on with the deserved victory lap  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  I hope you and the 131 other users who voted as such will like your tropy.



#1470 monolulu

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:04

I think by Melbourne FP1 we'll be witnessing Toto, contract and pen in his hands, chasing Lewis in circles around the garage, Benny Hill style.

Bit late if it’s Melbourne!!



#1471 Marklar

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:12

Risil should start a new poll with february options

#1472 lewislorenzo

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:14

Has to be before the car is officially unveiled surely or on that day at least

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:17

Risil should start a new poll with february options

 

No :( I am rarely correct in polls on forums, this time I was right!



#1474 DeKnyff

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:18

Risil should start a new poll with february options

 

I'll tell you my vote: "it won't be in February"

 

They are playing chicken with each other and they won't sign until the last day before testing.



#1475 Maximilyan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:25

No it isn't
It is very vain looks on things

Sport is about achievements. Achievements that cannot be measured in numbers. About suffering, sacrifices and comebacks.

Buddy Lazier was milimetres away from becaming double quadriplegic, yet he became Indy500 winner in less than two months. How do you measure that with numbers.

Niki Lauda was a goner, even received his Last Rites. Rejected them fondly and went on to win two more titles. How do you measure that with numbers?

Davey Allison almost died at Pocono, came back, drove with shattered arm, lost a brother, climbed in a helicopter and lost a life. Ernie Irvan came and drove for him. Than crashed and almost died himself. Came back and drove again. How do you measure that with numbers.

Junior carried the burden of his last name throughout most of his carrer. The burden cracked and burned him. Destroyed him. But the nation cheered. And cheered. How do you measure that in numbers?


Sport is also about what you just mentioned. I dont know why this is even being debated, but numbers do matter, a lot.

Its not either or. The story matters, and the numbers matter.

#1476 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:27

I also care about him and about the others. But like human stories. The moment the race starts, the only thing is who is the fastest.


Except that it is not.

I vividly remember the thrill of seeing Davey Allison driving with shattered hand, climbing out of the car under his own power to be replaced by relief driver who continued on just to score some precious points for Davey to win the championship.

Davey lost the championship, and championship went to the other well deserved Champion. Alan Kulwicki who too died in airplane crash soon after.

Davey's zero titles and Alan's one title weigh much more than JJ's six, or seven or whatever the number is these days. Because although JJ is magnificent driver there is no underlaying story behind his titles. And they all feel somewhat futile.

#1477 Jerem

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 13:47

You are amazing. A shame you didn't read the thread, because we regularly mentioned you. Some excerpts:

 

"Look at that outrageous prediction by Jerem, he said it won't be January!"

"That's a cheeky vote by Jerem right there!"

"I wouldn't dismiss Jerem, he is a visionary with an excellent track record."

"Goodness me January is almost over and the contract hasn't been signed, did Jerem know something we don't?"

and finally "The legendary Jerem called it yet again!".

 

Thanks for checking in, and now carry on with the deserved victory lap  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  I hope you and the 131 other users who voted as such will like your tropy.

Thanks, I knew spending years listening to pre-race, in-race and post-race jabbering by pundits and drivers would pay off some day. Can't wait to see the movie adaptation of my success-story!



#1478 DeKnyff

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 14:10

Except that it is not.

I vividly remember the thrill of seeing Davey Allison driving with shattered hand, climbing out of the car under his own power to be replaced by relief driver who continued on just to score some precious points for Davey to win the championship.

Davey lost the championship, and championship went to the other well deserved Champion. Alan Kulwicki who too died in airplane crash soon after.

Davey's zero titles and Alan's one title weigh much more than JJ's six, or seven or whatever the number is these days. Because although JJ is magnificent driver there is no underlaying story behind his titles. And they all feel somewhat futile.

 

Is this sport fair? No, it isn't. Never was, never will be. But it's part of the game: anyone who enters a race knows that and the winner is the one who crosses the line first (or, in a Championship, the one who scores more points).



#1479 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 14:16

Is this sport fair? No, it isn't. Never was, never will be. But it's part of the game: anyone who enters a race knows that and the winner is the one who crosses the line first (or, in a Championship, the one who scores more points).


The winner is the one who feels the best after the race.

For example Stefan Johansson felt the best after 1990 Portugese Grand Prix

Ayrton Senna felt the best after Suzuka 1991

Etc...

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#1480 Maximilyan

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 14:35

The winner is the one who feels the best after the race.

For example Stefan Johansson felt the best after 1990 Portugese Grand Prix

Ayrton Senna felt the best after Suzuka 1991

Etc...


"The winner is the one who feels the best after the race" πŸ‘€

By that logic it would appear to me that Daniel Ricardo has a lot of wins! πŸ˜‚

The winner is the one who finishes first. That is the reality of the sport. Everything else is philosophical mumbo jumbo.

Again, I do think the things you touch on matter, but points are handed out for results, not feelings of elation, euphoria, or nostalgia.

Stop trolling.

#1481 Risil

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 16:48

This way for the February edition, aka the big thread of we told you so.