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[Peat]

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Races going back to 2pm CET rather than 3:10pm. 

Tbh, I liked having the extra hour of a Sunday morning. And i liked the extra 10mins because i'm disorganised and I would be switching my PC on in a panic at about 3:01 afraid i had missed the start. 

[Stephane]

I'm happy, back to being able to do something else of my afternoon when the race is finished.

[Flasheart]

As an Aussie, this is great news. I didn’t mind the ten minute delay, but I did mind the extra hour (11pm). Going back to a 10pm race start will be much more convenient.

[Risil]

I've split this into its own thread.

 

Personally I'm very happy about the news.

[Viryfan]

it means that F2 will start really early, 9:30 am or 45 at latest

[SenorSjon]

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It seems common sense is entering the fight. Now the teams have to decide.

 

The 10 past times seemed not to have the desired effect with broadcasters so we will return to the whole hour as starting time. Another proposition is to have the European races one hour earlier again. As predicted, most rain showers waited another hour to fall. With a race starting at 15.10 for mainland Europe in combination with red flags, you would be entering dinner prep time if you wanted to see the podium and interviews. 

[SenorSjon]

I've split this into its own thread.

 

Personally I'm very happy about the news.

 

You made my thread redundant.

 

It seems common sense is entering the fight. Now the teams have to decide.

 

The 10 past times seemed not to have the desired effect with broadcasters so we will return to the whole hour as starting time. Another proposition is to have the European races one hour earlier again. As predicted, most rain showers waited another hour to fall.  With a race starting at 15.10 for mainland Europe in combination with red flags, you would be entering dinner prep time if you wanted to see the podium and interviews. 

[sabjit]

I quite liked the 10 past thing, if you had something else between 1300-1400 you had 10 mins for changeover time or get home time from whatever you were doing. 

[johnwilliamdavies]

Yes, I can't be bothered with all the pre-show faff, so 10 minutes to set up a stream was ideal. 

[balage06]

[ANF]

it means that F2 will start really early, 9:30 am or 45 at latest

Maybe they should have kept the feature race on Saturday afternoon when they can throw a red flag and only care the sunset.

[PayasYouRace]

I never understood why people were so bothered about the change in the first place. But now I’m back to having to rush Sunday lunch to watch the race.

[SenorSjon]

You should brunch on Sunday. Problem solved.

 

For us mainlanders it was very annoying to have a 2 hour gap between lunch & race. Far too short to do anything useful.

[owenmahamilton]

Glad to hear it, it was in my opinion a stupid idea in the first place plus it means that the races should be finished before the 16:30 UK time football matches kick off.

[FortiFord]

Also worth noting that this should mean the C4 highlights are shown around 1 hour earlier. 

[Beri]

You should brunch on Sunday. Problem solved.

 

For us mainlanders it was very annoying to have a 2 hour gap between lunch & race. Far too short to do anything useful.

 

The 14.00 starting time was way better than the 15.00. Counting about 1.5 hours for a race would mean that I didnt have any time left between the race finish and dinner time to do anything special when the race started at 15.00. I'd rather have a bigger space in between the race and dinner than lunch and the race. Primarily because my pre-race "strategy" involves updating myself on the threads here and sometimes watching the pre race studio program.

 

Reverting back to a 14.00 start, would mean that I "only" have to bridge 1.5 hours between lunch finish (12.30) and the race itself. And afterwards (at 15.30-ish) have loads of time left to do something usefull the rest of the day. This opposed to the 16.30 finish time at a starting time of 15.00. I know it is only an hour. But psychologically it makes a huge difference in my case.

[cpbell]

Also worth noting that this should mean the C4 highlights are shown around 1 hour earlier. 

I was then goingt to ask that, being a non-Sky pleb.  Handy for me, then.

[BRG]

I never understood why people were so bothered about the change in the first place. 

 

Nor me.  The capacity of some people to get steamed up over something so trivial is amazing.

 

Frankly my dear, I couldn't give a damn.  The races will be run when the races are run.

[P123]

I never understood why people were so bothered about the change in the first place. But now I’m back to having to rush Sunday lunch to watch the race.

I suppose it depends on personal preference.  The 1pm start times (UK time) allowed you to get on with other things post-race.  You still had some of the afternoon left.  The 14:10 start was just there, floating in the middle of the afternoon.  Couldn't do much beforehand after lunch, couldn't do much after.  It just got in the way of other plans, especially in the rare times we have good weather.  Now the race can be run and done, as before.

[Calum]

F1 feels like it just changes irrelevant things for the sake of it.

[Beri]

Nor me.  The capacity of some people to get steamed up over something so trivial is amazing.

 

Frankly my dear, I couldn't give a damn.  The races will be run when the races are run.

 

For a person with a healthy amount of autistic personality, it was way to confusing starting races at 06:10, 07:10, 08:10, 14:10, 15:10, 18:10 and 20:10. And the biggest issue is the 14.10 and 15.10 switch that happened too many times due to reasonings no one will ever understand.

 

Races used to start at 14:00 Local times on the european continent. Early mornings on the Asian one and late afternoon on the American one. And even the Brazilian and the USA ones were at the same time. Now with night races and such it is just a soup of muddy waters.

[KavB]

I suppose it depends on personal preference.  The 1pm start times (UK time) allowed you to get on with other things post-race.  You still had some of the afternoon left.  The 14:10 start was just there, floating in the middle of the afternoon.  Couldn't do much beforehand after lunch, couldn't do much after.  It just got in the way of other plans, especially in the rare times we have good weather.  Now the race can be run and done, as before.

Exactly my thoughts. 

 

It sounds a bit crazy considering it is only a one hour difference but it really felt like my Sundays were consumed by F1. I am indifferent on the 10 minutes past thing but I am glad they are bringing the races forward an hour.

[FirstnameLastname]

All these folk with spare time on their hands to ‘bridge’

Lucky buggers. My heart bleeds for you

[KWSN - DSM]

All Grand Prix should start at 02:00PM local time, except Monaco when start time should be whenever the Prince wants it to be.

[Garndell]

So this attempt to boost the US audience has failed I take it.  Good, never liked the stupid 10 minute offset, it triggered my autism a fair bit.

[SophieB]

I’m delighted it’s gone back to the proper time! Excellent news.

[BCM]

I never understood why people were so bothered about the change in the first place. But now I’m back to having to rush Sunday lunch to watch the race.

The extra hour was a killer for the east coast of Australia. I'm on the West Coast so it didn't affect me too much as there's a two or three hour time difference depending on the time of the year (daylight savings). Lots of races were starting at midnight or later with last years' times for the eastern states which is where the bulk of Australia's population is.

Edited by BCM, 06 January 2021 - 13:46.

[garoidb]

I’m delighted it’s gone back to the proper time! Excellent news.

 

Now if they can just move the British Grand Prix back to Saturday, all will be right with the (F1) world!

[Viryfan]

F1 feels like it just changes irrelevant things for the sake of it.

 

well they had the opportunity to do back to back tests this year with COVID, it seems that there was not enough benefits for the 2018 move.

[rodlamas]

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Races going back to 2pm CET rather than 3:10pm. 

Tbh, I liked having the extra hour of a Sunday morning. And i liked the extra 10mins because i'm disorganised and I would be switching my PC on in a panic at about 3:01 afraid i had missed the start. 

GREAT DAY

[steferrari]

I'm happy, back to being able to do something else of my afternoon when the race is finished.

 

My thoughts exactly.

[SenorSjon]

The 14.00 starting time was way better than the 15.00. Counting about 1.5 hours for a race would mean that I didnt have any time left between the race finish and dinner time to do anything special when the race started at 15.00. I'd rather have a bigger space in between the race and dinner than lunch and the race. Primarily because my pre-race "strategy" involves updating myself on the threads here and sometimes watching the pre race studio program.

 

Reverting back to a 14.00 start, would mean that I "only" have to bridge 1.5 hours between lunch finish (12.30) and the race itself. And afterwards (at 15.30-ish) have loads of time left to do something usefull the rest of the day. This opposed to the 16.30 finish time at a starting time of 15.00. I know it is only an hour. But psychologically it makes a huge difference in my case.

 

16.30 if you are lucky. Races like Singapore could take the full two hours, making it 17.10. A red flag? Well, that is a late dinner. With the sheer amount of races, I can't always ask my wife to cook dinner because of F1.

[KWSN - DSM]

Part of the allure of F1 is watching the races different times a day, depending on where they are hosted - The night races catering to the European viewers is nothing but damning proof of the countries the night races are in have zero actual interest in those races, and nothing but cow-tailing.

 

I watch the races live, set the alarm clock as needed, and enjoy having to do that over being pampered just because I fit a demographic who have steadfastly through 70 years not delivered.

 

But that is just me.

[Astandahl]

Excellent.

[Tiakumosan]

9am instead of 10:10am here. I like it.

[jradicals]

First thing I checked was if Rolex were winding back their F1 sponsorship - wasn't the cynical view that they only moved it to 10 past the hour so the big close up shot of the Rolex clock they fill the screen with wouldn't have the hands in the middle of the logo?  (like pretty much all watch advertisements displaying 10:10)

[ARTGP]

This is great.  The earlier the race, the sooner I can get on with my day.  and scrap the 10 minute delay too. That was nonsense

Edited by ARTGP, 06 January 2021 - 15:29.

[SenorSjon]

First thing I checked was if Rolex were winding back their F1 sponsorship - wasn't the cynical view that they only moved it to 10 past the hour so the big close up shot of the Rolex clock they fill the screen with wouldn't have the hands in the middle of the logo?  (like pretty much all watch advertisements displaying 10:10)

 

Could be. Watch adverts always use 10:10 as time. 

[jannyg]

This is good news. The 2.10pm UK start was clashing with premier league kick offs and any sort of safety car would also run well into the 4.30pm kick off.

 

I expect F1 want to claw back those viewers who were left to choose between F1 and Football.

 

At least now, the race would be at least 1hr underway before key games start

[Beri]

Part of the allure of F1 is watching the races different times a day, depending on where they are hosted - The night races catering to the European viewers is nothing but damning proof of the countries the night races are in have zero actual interest in those races, and nothing but cow-tailing.
 
I watch the races live, set the alarm clock as needed, and enjoy having to do that over being pampered just because I fit a demographic who have steadfastly through 70 years not delivered.
 
But that is just me.

And me

[TomNokoe]

Hurrah! Annoys me they even tried this silly idea in the first place.

[MasterOfCoin]

Well....it was fun while it lasted, back to 7:00 am races then.....

[WonderboyF1]

I guess reading this we all have very personal thoughts on the start time due to life getting in the way of our beloved sport. Personally liked the 2:10pm UK start time, as I often have work Sunday’s and that allowed me to be home in time for race starts. This season will be an unknown on the viewing front for me anyway with the birth of my first child pre-season 🤪

[absinthedude]

I got used to the new times, and they certainly worked for me most weekends...but I have no problem with going back to the previous timings. It's not high on my lost of things to change about F1.

[Dolph]

Thank god for this. I could always just watch the "replay" of the races later in the evening and because the start was later my evenings turned into night and started interfering with Mondays and had a knock on effect on Tuesdays and Wednesdays as well.

[Izzyeviel]

as someone who has just gotten used to the 3.10pm kick-off this is terrible news. I'm going to miss most of the races now! 

[boomn]

Ugh, back to trying to wake for 5am races for me :/  At least that means that race might be over before the rest of the family starts waking and needing breakfast

Edited by boomn, 06 January 2021 - 21:48.

[KWSN - DSM]

as someone who has just gotten used to the 3.10pm kick-off this is terrible news. I'm going to miss most of the races now! 

 

Missing live coverage, DVR stumps everything these days is pressed for time.

[BRG]

Now if they can just move the British Grand Prix back to Saturday  Aintree, all will be right with the (F1) world!

FIxed.

[Mark521]

Well....it was fun while it lasted, back to 7:00 am races then.....

 

As I am a US East Coast watcher, I actually like the earlier start time.  Breakfast with F1, then have the rest of the day to get things done.

 

I also think in the bigger picture the failure of the  "start 10 minutes after the hour as a way to increase the amount of TV exposure/time buying" is NOT good news.

I think this dooms us to more "behind a pay wall" versus free to air as the interest of the broadcasters isn't there.