33 replies to this topic

[cyclist]

After the announcement that Aston Martin has a new partner and will race in green, which team is most likely to get a deal with BWT and become pink? I hope to see them back on the grid as its an iconic color and good to see another benefit from the sponsorship. Will it be Alfa-Romeo, Haas or Williams or even McLaren (though that last one will probably not want to ditch their orange color?)

[pacificquay]

None, BWT is staying with Aston in an associate sponsor role

[cyclist]

None, BWT is staying with Aston in an associate sponsor role

I can't imagine the return on investment would even be closely the same... Perhaps if they invest far less. I think the BWT brand made a huge jump with the pink livery, so why not continue doing so, if with a different team?

[messy]

It’s a shame, I loved the BWT livery. It’s not too common these days that a colour scheme becomes something bordering on iconic but I suppose it wasn’t around quite long enough for that all told. I really liked it. That said, I’m looking forward to see what the Aston Martin scheme is, I just wish it hadn’t replaced IMO the best color scheme on the grid.

[cyclist]

I think the Green will be rather bland tbh... I am all for tradition but most of the time it just looks very poor.

[charly0418]

I can't imagine the return on investment would even be closely the same... Perhaps if they invest far less. I think the BWT brand made a huge jump with the pink livery, so why not continue doing so, if with a different team?

they only paid about 15M to become the title sponsor and paint the whole car pink. I doubt teams would be willing to do that for that little amount of money. Force India was desperate for any cash given the situation Vijay was in

[Risil]

None, BWT is staying with Aston in an associate sponsor role

 

Do we know this for definite?

[Marklar]

Do we know this for definite?

Buxton said so

[cyclist]

they only paid about 15M to become the title sponsor and paint the whole car pink. I doubt teams would be willing to do that for that little amount of money. Force India was desperate for any cash given the situation Vijay was in

In its current state I can imagine Haas and Williams to happily accept that offer. It's not like they have other options like these. They don't even have to paint the car completely pink, even if it was 50% it would still be effective.

[charly0418]

In its current state I can imagine Haas and Williams to happily accept that offer. It's not like they have other options like these. They don't even have to paint the car completely pink, even if it was 50% it would still be effective.

Then the question is should BWT be interested in those teams? Both of them are a mess and not even remotely competitive unlike Force India back in the day

[PayasYouRace]

It’s a shame, I loved the BWT livery. It’s not too common these days that a colour scheme becomes something bordering on iconic but I suppose it wasn’t around quite long enough for that all told. I really liked it. That said, I’m looking forward to see what the Aston Martin scheme is, I just wish it hadn’t replaced IMO the best color scheme on the grid.

 

The BWT Force Indias/Racing Points were around as long as Rothmans Williams.

[Rinehart]

I think the Green will be rather bland tbh... I am all for tradition but most of the time it just looks very poor.

 

I'm hoping for green with the florescent yellow and red like their Le Mans GT3 Pro cars...

[Izzyeviel]

I would dig a pink Williams.

[FirstnameLastname]

They don’t appear on the the team website at all...



I would guess Williams, Haas and Sauber are falling over each other in the scramble to BWTs door

[jjcale]

Haas ... they'll go with anyone 

[MKSixer]

Do we know this for definite?

It was on the internet, it must be true.  I'm a French Model and Astronaut. 

[Imperial]

It's very boring when a 'British' race team opts for British Racing Green, just because that's what was always done.

Do Aston even do a road car in BRG? They're always silver or black.

[Taxi]

Haas, so that we have a pink Ferrari. 

[absinthedude]

Several credible reports that BWT want to continue in a reduced capacity but that the deal hasn't been agreed.

 

I would have thought that most teams aren't worried about running a pink livery....what we've learned in the last few years is that BWT are a reliable sponsor with relatively deep pockets. Williams and Haas would obviously welcome a good sponsor with open arms but BWT may prefer to work with someone higher up the grid....hence looking at continuing with Aston. 

 

REgarding Aston and road cars....I've seen Vantages on the road in a variety of lurid colours...plus green. 

[Lennat]

That's a shame, as it was the first  truly unique livery in a long time. I hope the Aston looks cool, and just just like any old Jaguar or Lotus/Caterham. A more vibrant green could work.

[Sterzo]

they only paid about 15M to become the title sponsor and paint the whole car pink. I doubt teams would be willing to do that for that little amount of money. Force India was desperate for any cash given the situation Vijay was in

Such figures are difficult to access, but this website here suggests 40m, presumably dollars.

 

https://rtrsports.co...1-sponsorships/

[noikeee]

Am I the only one here that really disliked it?

[balage06]

Am I the only one here that really disliked it?

 

Nope.

[absinthedude]

I actually liked it. But then I'm often supportive of anything which harmlessly questions daft ideas around masculinity....such as "real men don't wear pink". But it was also striking, looked good on track and did a great job of publicising BWT. It's one of the more interesting liveries of recent times which didn't look to busy. In time it will likely be seen as a classic.

[BRG]

I had a nice pink shirt that I wore to work sometimes.  And I even eat quiche occasionally.  But I have never claimed to be a real man, just a man.

 

BWT had a very visible livery, good for them.  Personally, I wasn't mad-keen on it, but it was better than most of the others, in F1 and in other series where BWT also sponsor cars (Porsche Supercup, for one).  I wouldn't mind seeing it on the Haas or Williams.  Anything that isn't yet more BLACK on the grid must be good.

Edited by BRG, 08 January 2021 - 13:42.

[nca]

I think it was a horrible livery, hopefully never to be seen again!

 

 

nca

[NixxxoN]

We've had only 1 pink team in F1 in 60 years and 4 seasons, so chances of seeing another one are very small in the short and mid term

[SparkPlug86]

It would make a nice addition to Williams... 

[Collombin]

We've had only 1 pink team in F1 in 60 years and 4 seasons, so chances of seeing another one are very small in the short and mid term

WDC Indy made up for that. A pink winner in 1955/6, and pink pole cars in 1956 and 1959.

Edited by Collombin, 08 January 2021 - 16:37.

[Junky]

they only paid about 15M to become the title sponsor and paint the whole car pink. I doubt teams would be willing to do that for that little amount of money. Force India was desperate for any cash given the situation Vijay was in

 

In fact, didn't Martini pay only 8-9M€/year to Williams?

[NixxxoN]

WDC Indy made up for that. A pink winner in 1955, and pink pole cars in 1956 and 1959.

Well I thought he talked only about F1. Cool to know anyway

[SparkPlug86]

 

Looks pretty decent to be honest. 

Edited by SparkPlug86, 08 January 2021 - 16:34.

[charly0418]

Such figures are difficult to access, but this website here suggests 40m, presumably dollars.

 

https://rtrsports.co...1-sponsorships/

the amount was made public when Force India went into administration, it was 15M

[absinthedude]

the amount was made public when Force India went into administration, it was 15M

 

It was a reliable sum every year, which seemed beneficial to FI/RP and which gained BWT a lot of publicity. You can bet the lesser funded teams nearer the back of the grid would love that. Seems far better than Rich Energy vapourware...