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#1 JordanIreland

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 20:18

With the 2021 season hopefully underway soon, it would be good to discuss how the team is setup and ready to go.

 

The Williams website has not been updated and doesn't seem to highlight the team members:

https://www.williams...bout/our-people

 

With Jost Capito as the new CEO, the team will have an experienced set of hands in the area of motorsports arena and I hope his experience and contacts will bring a lot to the team:

https://www.bbc.com/...rmula1/55349977

 

Simon Roberts is the new Team Principle. Seems like a good CV, it will be interesting to see how he manages the team going forward:

https://www.rte.ie/s...at-williams-f1/

 

On the technical side, how are the key team members?

 

It looks like 2021 will be yet another team building exercise setting up for a stronger 2022 and 2023, one would hope.

 

Fingers crossed some points for 2021.

 

 



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#2 Beri

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 20:26

Thanks for opening this thread. And I cross my fingers with you.
Williams has made some progress on adding some people on crucial positions. The addition of Jost and the permanent position of Simon is a positive sign.

This is the first season in a while where I'm somewhat positive about what's to come. Points or not, progress can hopefully be seen in many aspects at the team.

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 20:43

Thanks for opening this thread. And I cross my fingers with you.
Williams has made some progress on adding some people on crucial positions. The addition of Jost and the permanent position of Simon is a positive sign.

This is the first season in a while where I'm somewhat positive about what's to come. Points or not, progress can hopefully be seen in many aspects at the team.


We have seen how long and difficult it has been for Renault and McLaren to push their teams forward i.e. major investment and bringing in the key people. I hope they have the right people and resources in place to do the same.

Fingers crossed 🤞🏻

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 23:32

Nice summary video of the Williams/Merc link

https://youtu.be/4PL1k7TpTp4

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 05:44

Hoping for the best this year just any type of points then I'll be happy.



#6 JordanIreland

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 21:49

Hoping for the best this year just any type of points then I'll be happy.


Indeed, one lucky point in the last two seasons is Minardi level. 2020 did show some promise, it would be great if that level of progress can be maintained.

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 22:35

Nice summary video of the Williams/Merc link
https://youtu.be/4PL1k7TpTp4


Well, I love the guys and gals at The Race. They do have some very good pundits and do make good footage. Yet this is all champagne and caviar based upon assumptions. The assumptions that investments have been made in the correct areas, assumptions that both Roberts and Capito do hit the nails on their heads in their respective positions. There is a lot of uncertainty in the entire film you've posted.

But if, and I would love for once that the upcoming ifs will all come to fruition, if everything falls into place within 5 years from now. If money remains available. If the entire team steps up a bit. If podium finishes are not related to engine performance alone, like in the Martini days. And if that one day will come, the day that I dream of for about 25 years now, that Williams will fight again for the championship, if all those ifs are becoming true.. then let 2020 be the year where Williams bit the bullet and got back on their way to make all those ifs happen. Because there are fans, like me, who will always remain a fan of the team called Williams. No matter if it's Williams, Head, Wolff or Roberts at the helm, Williams today is as much Williams as it was when they still were in Didcot. I just hope Williams finds itself on the podium again soon enough for Sir Frank to be able to witness this.

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 23:20

There's a lot of positivity for 2021, but I don't see it.

There's far too much low-hanging fruit for Alfa and Haas that I fear Williams will be left behind again, even if they do a solid job at adapting to the floor changes.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 18:32

There's a lot of positivity for 2021, but I don't see it.

There's far too much low-hanging fruit for Alfa and Haas that I fear Williams will be left behind again, even if they do a solid job at adapting to the floor changes.

Exactly. Williams only leap them cause of the Ferrari PU which will be much stronger. I think we’re back to 2019 level performance. I doubt 2021 Williams has addressed Claire’s frustration of not being to do what was needed financially... now trying to integrate Mercedes parts will take some time.

Edited by Paco, 13 January 2021 - 18:33.


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Posted 16 January 2021 - 17:41

Exactly. Williams only leap them cause of the Ferrari PU which will be much stronger. I think we’re back to 2019 level performance. I doubt 2021 Williams has addressed Claire’s frustration of not being to do what was needed financially... now trying to integrate Mercedes parts will take some time.


The Merc gearbox and such are being acquired from 2022 onwards. Not in 2021.

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 23:41

The Merc gearbox and such are being acquired from 2022 onwards. Not in 2021.

 

?  Why?

 

Oi, there goes 2022 as any hope for life.  

 

Is that implying the new group doesn't want to learn and invest in 2021 as a test bed for 2022...     again more ridiculous Williams decision.  Why expecft anything esle.



#12 JordanIreland

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Posted Yesterday, 02:40

? Why?

Oi, there goes 2022 as any hope for life.

Is that implying the new group doesn't want to learn and invest in 2021 as a test bed for 2022... again more ridiculous Williams decision. Why expecft anything esle.


I suspect, adding such components for 2021 may not yield much benefit as the 2021 car will be totally different to 2022. The merc components are more then likely going to be very reliable and I assume some of the best in F1, so Williams can take that as a given in 2022. Plus Williams will be using merc engine, gearbox and hydraulics, so they will come as a fully tested and reliable package.

Overall, I say it’s down to budget i.e. save their budget to build a better 2022 car. Plus they need to move staff around within Williams within that Department and that takes time.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:16

?  Why?
 
Oi, there goes 2022 as any hope for life.  
 
Is that implying the new group doesn't want to learn and invest in 2021 as a test bed for 2022...     again more ridiculous Williams decision.  Why expecft anything esle.


Williams has chosen to stick with their current setup simply because of something that are called tokens and an impending new set of regulations. Heard of them?
Williams will use Mercedes in 2022 as well, so why spend money twice? One time now for having the gearbox fit in the current chassis and needing the suspension to be altered. And then again for a completely new car in 2022 because of new regulations.
Williams has chosen to focus on 2022. Which in turn means another season dangling at the back. But it's a very logical, wise and healthy choice made.

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Posted Yesterday, 20:34

I suspect, adding such components for 2021 may not yield much benefit as the 2021 car will be totally different to 2022. The merc components are more then likely going to be very reliable and I assume some of the best in F1, so Williams can take that as a given in 2022. Plus Williams will be using merc engine, gearbox and hydraulics, so they will come as a fully tested and reliable package.

Overall, I say it’s down to budget i.e. save their budget to build a better 2022 car. Plus they need to move staff around within Williams within that Department and that takes time.


So like Williams, Renault ooops Alpine, McLaren, supposed by this thread Aston Martin... so everyone except the 2 best teams that get it doesn’t work that way...

So only the mid gridders can not race stuff and expects to find time by leaps and bounds by stopping and not running stuff now to understand them. Yeah.. that’s makes all the sense in the world and an effective strategy for future success.

The 2022 car is mechanically identical from I gather. The changes are only aero.

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Posted Yesterday, 21:11

With your reply here and in the Alpine thread, you show me that you are somewhat fixed on your own truth. Which is fine. But do realize that your truth isn't the truth that others, as well as those midfield teams you've mentioned, do agree upon. Actually, you're quite lonely in that stance. So don't kill every discussion by staying stubborn, try and see it in a different light. Because, as said, not everyone that do not have the same opinion as you is wrong.

Edited by Beri, Yesterday, 21:12.


#16 JordanIreland

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Posted Yesterday, 21:47

So like Williams, Renault ooops Alpine, McLaren, supposed by this thread Aston Martin... so everyone except the 2 best teams that get it doesn’t work that way...

So only the mid gridders can not race stuff and expects to find time by leaps and bounds by stopping and not running stuff now to understand them. Yeah.. that’s makes all the sense in the world and an effective strategy for future success.

The 2022 car is mechanically identical from I gather. The changes are only aero.

A number of F1 teams including Williams could have shut it doors this year if it didn’t sell up (plus covid hasn’t helped). So it’s safe to say that they are not flush with money. Even McLaren has/had its own recent financial troubles.

With that in mind, they have to pick their fights and try and maximise them. It really is frustrating as a fan, but one needs to be pragmatic.

Edited by JordanIreland, Today, 03:55.


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Posted Today, 03:52

Best of luck to them this year. 

 

Would love to see them genuinely fighting somewhere mid pack at least.