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[Jon Saltinstall]

I wonder if I may call on the collected wisdom of TNF to help with the first names of a few European drivers who competed in the early-mid 1960s? The people I'm trying to identify are:

 

Bonyorst - German - Volvo in Hillclimbs, 1964

Carlos (who might also be "Carlos" in the tradition of pseudonyms) - possibly Belgian - BMW in Touring Cars, 1964

De Bruyn (or possibly Debruyne) - Belgian - Cortina GT in Touring Cars & Hillclimbs, 1965

Hermuth - German -  Volvo in Hillclimbs, 1964

Kernevi - possibly Belgian - Fiat Abarth, Touring Cars in 1963

Koetthen - German - Volvo in Hillclimbs, 1964

Strens - German - BMW in Hillclimbs, 1964

Targe - possibly Belgian - Cortina GT in Hillclimbs, 1965

G. t'Kint de Roodebeeke - Belgian - BMW in Touring Cars, 1963

 

Any and all help hugely appreciated, as ever! Thanks for listening.

 

Jon

[Vitesse2]

De Bruyn might be German rather than Belgian. A Paul de Bruyn was a motor sport administrator with the AvD in Germany in the early 1950s. There was also a Frank Debruyne competing in German hillclimbs in the early 1990s.

[ReWind]

I suspect there are some mis-spellings.

Bonyorst COULD be Dieter Bohnhorst.

[Jon Saltinstall]

I suspect there are some mis-spellings.

Bonyorst COULD be Dieter Bohnhorst.

 

First problem solved - thanks Reinhard. Cross-checking confirms that Dieter Bohnhorst is indeed the man. The perils of local newspapers!

[Jon Saltinstall]

De Bruyn might be German rather than Belgian. A Paul de Bruyn was a motor sport administrator with the AvD in Germany in the early 1950s. There was also a Frank Debruyne competing in German hillclimbs in the early 1990s.

 

Thanks for this - I know Frank is too young, so it's not him. Two local newspaper reports give alternative spellings so that's not much help I'm afraid!

[Jon Saltinstall]

Just discovered that Hermuth is actually Eugen Herrmuth (and is indeed German) - two down!

[68targa]

There is a Eugen Herrmuth from Cologne who entered a Volvo PV544 in the supporting touring car race at the 1964 German GP

[68targa]

There is a Francis Targé entered for the Formula Vee support for the 1966 German GP. Shown as Belgium

[Arjan de Roos]

I think that another name is mispelled (also on several sites).

 

G. t'Kint de Roodebeeke - Belgian -

 

A Belgian noble family is known as "t'Kint de Roodenbeeke", note the n added. Could be that the G. was abbreviation for "Graaf" (Dutch for Count). Maybe its was count Juan Marie Ghislain? 

[Parkesi]

Just asked my friend Siegfried Strasser/Salzburg Austria who is an expert regarding European hillclimbs.

That´s what he wrote:

Karl von Kothen

Ralf Bohnhorst

Paul de Bruyn

Heinz Jürgen Hermuth

Kent de Roodebeeke.

He too thinks there must be some mis-spellings...

[Jon Saltinstall]

I think that another name is mispelled (also on several sites).

 

G. t'Kint de Roodebeeke - Belgian -

 

A Belgian noble family is known as "t'Kint de Roodenbeeke", note the n added. Could be that the G. was abbreviation for "Graaf" (Dutch for Count). Maybe its was count Juan Marie Ghislain? 

 

Great call, thanks Arjan. I was led to believe this was an "aristocratic" driver, so the abbreviation of G.for "Graaf" (which I hadn't thought of!) makes sense. I wonder if Parkesi's contact knows if "Kent de Roodebeeke" was how he liked to be known in his racing activities?

[Jon Saltinstall]

Just asked my friend Siegfried Strasser/Salzburg Austria who is an expert regarding European hillclimbs.

That´s what he wrote:

Karl von Kothen

Ralf Bohnhorst

Paul de Bruyn

Heinz Jürgen Hermuth

Kent de Roodebeeke.

He too thinks there must be some mis-spellings...

 

Really helpful, thanks Parkesi.

[Jon Saltinstall]

There is a Francis Targé entered for the Formula Vee support for the 1966 German GP. Shown as Belgium

 

Much appreciated - thank you.

And Eugen Herrmuth confirmed too, as our man was Volvo-mounted.

Edited by Jon Saltinstall, 18 January 2021 - 15:42.

[Jon Saltinstall]

So thanks to all your help, we've narrowed it down to three missing ones now -

 

Carlos (who might also be "Carlos" in the tradition of pseudonyms) - possibly Belgian - BMW in Touring Cars, 1964

Kernevi - possibly Belgian and might also be a pseudonym - Fiat Abarth, Touring Cars in 1963

Strens - which may also be a misspelling, though I've tried various likely alternatives  - German - BMW in Hillclimbs, 1964

[Vitesse2]

Carlos and Kernevi feature in the entry list of the 12 Hours of Huy in 1964, both of them in Porsches. Carlos does seem to be a nom de course, but not Kernevi.

 

http://www.kwa-kwa.p...-21061964r.html

 

Kernevi apparently won his class in a race at Zandvoort and I note that there's another Belgian Fiat Abarth driver in the result - one Taifoon, which is surely another nom de course. So might Taifoon also be Carlos?

 

http://touringcarrac...es Benelux.html

[richardspringett]

Carlos = Claude Clemens (D)

 

source; Wimpffen

 

Richard

[68targa]

1965 Belgium Touring car championship round 1

Zolder 21 March 1965

 

There is a Strens listed as driving a BMW 700 CS - he is shown as Belgium ? Unfortunately no surname.

 

from  www.touringcarracing.net 

[Jon Saltinstall]

Carlos = Claude Clemens (D)

 

source; Wimpffen

 

Richard

 

Perfect - thanks Richard.

[Jon Saltinstall]

1965 Belgium Touring car championship round 1

Zolder 21 March 1965

 

There is a Strens listed as driving a BMW 700 CS - he is shown as Belgium ? Unfortunately no surname.

 

from  www.touringcarracing.net 

 

That's the right guy in the right race, but as you say Frank's site doesn't record his first name, unfortunately.

[BRG]

Carlos = Claude Clemens (D)

 

source; Wimpffen

 

Richard

According to ewrc-results.com, he was Emile-Claude Clemens.

[Jon Saltinstall]

According to ewrc-results.com, he was Emile-Claude Clemens.

Much appreciated, thanks!