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[IrvTheSwerve]

So you believed in every thing Toto said past 7 years (for example Force India can fight us

No, I don’t. 
 

Stop acting like you know better than others on here, almost for certain. We all have opinions.

 

You say you have followed F1 for 20 years - well there are many, many on here that have followed it for more than that, sometimes double or treble the time. I’ve followed it for more than 20 years but it’s not something I would brag about, who cares? 

[HeadFirst]

The only person who knows why Lewis signed his current contract, and what his plans are for the future is ..... Lewis. Since he seems disinclined to share his (probably considerable) thought processes considering the decision made, and the decision(s) yet to be made, I guess we will have to wait until he is ready (if ever) to share.

[ForzaFormula]

Downhill due to branislav as per usual

 

God knows why he's still around baiting people up everywhere talking nonsense, but leave that to the mod, loyalty over behavour I guess.

It would be nice to get back to a decent discussion again.

[Branislav]

No, I don’t. 
 

Stop acting like you know better than others on here, almost for certain. We all have opinions.

 

You say you have followed F1 for 20 years - well there are many, many on here that have followed it for more than that, sometimes double or treble the time. I’ve followed it for more than 20 years but it’s not something I would brag about, who cares? 

Yeah it's enough 5 years actually to connect things. We all have opinions so I have every right to my opinion, right? So ask yourself why I bother you

[Branislav]

God knows why he's still around baiting people up everywhere talking nonsense, but leave that to the mod, loyalty over behavour I guess.

It would be nice to get back to a decent discussion again.

Nonsense?

 

So

 

RB will challenge Merc

 

Ham will sign for one more year

 

RB will get engine freeze and Honda PU

 

Ferrari will be back in top 3

 

That were nonsenses?

[Nigol]

I have 20 years of F1 experience. So don't doubt in me. 

Since you know so many things, do you know of which famous Albert Einstein quote I have to think of when I read your posts? Go figure.

[Paco]

What industries is Lewis a global player? Hamilton is a great driver but he doesn't transcend the sport like Schumacher and Senna did, nor is he as popular as either.

I think he is waiting to see who will be in the other seat before making a decision, I don't think he would want to go up against Verstappen, there is a strong chance he would lose and that would undo a lot of the credit in winning 7 or 8 titles. I don't think he would care about Russell though, as good as George is he has not shown to be in Hamiltons class or close to it so far.

I agree that Lewis doesn’t have the outbof F1 lore that Schumi and Senna does. He’s still restricted solely to F1... He’s trying but lacks that bite that those 2 had, Max has more chance of that global influence then Lewis.

I can’t believe this 1yr thing is still an issue. Why? It’s moved on to now when will he sign for next year...

Mecedes need him way more then in Dec. it benefitted him... let’s move on.

[andrewf1]

I have a message for all people who believe only in what came out of their mouths (drivers and team bosses). Mostly it is PR. No one will tell you the truth. Lewis will not tell you when he is worried when he is worried (like now with future team mate). Or that Bottas isn't second driver and actually has a shot at title. Use your brains, don't believe in everything they say (Toto is good example last years).

 

Curious to know what "brains" you used to establish that the most successful and accomplished driver in F1 history is afraid of George Russell and how that fear of George Russell will drive him into retirement.

 

Please stop bringing the forum conversation to a lower standard.

[as65p]

Curious to know what "brains" you used to establish that the most successful and accomplished driver in F1 history is afraid of George Russell and how that fear of George Russell will drive him into retirement.

A former "most successful and accomplished driver in F1 history" retired (albeit in hindsight only temporarily) for a very similar reason.

 

That's not to say it will happen with Hamilton, just that being top dog at a particular point in time is not a compelling argument against such possibilities.

[andrewf1]

A former "most successful and accomplished driver in F1 history" retired (albeit in hindsight only temporarily) for a very similar reason.

 

That's not to say it will happen with Hamilton, just that being top dog at a particular point in time is not a compelling argument against such possibilities.

 

Right, feel free to point out the compelling evidence that Schumacher retired because he was afraid of Raikkonen.

Being the top dog in the sport's history is a very compelling argument against some forum member's baseless theory.

[as65p]

Right, feel free to point out the compelling evidence that Schumacher retired because he was afraid of Raikkonen.

Being the top dog in the sport's history is a very compelling argument against some forum member's baseless theory.

History is called history for a reason, you know. Mainly because it references the past.

[andrewf1]

History is called history for a reason, you know. Mainly because it references the past.

 

You are still welcome to point out the evidence that Schumacher retired because he was afraid of Raikkonen.

Otherwise your argument is invalid.

[as65p]

You are still welcome to point out the evidence that Schumacher retired because he was afraid of Raikkonen.

Otherwise your argument is invalid.

 

Who made you to decide that? Funny.

 

I have enough evidence for my taste, and no, I won't help you to recognize it.
 

[andrewf1]

Who made you to decide that? Funny.

 

 

You made the claim that there is a precedent for Hamilton's situation.

If you can't back up the claim, your argument is invalid. Common sense dictates that. 

 

 

I have enough evidence for my taste, and no, I won't help you to recognize it.

 

 

Lol ok, you keep that evidence to yourself nice and tight. 

[Stephane]

ok, bye

[ExEd]

Even if for the sake of argument we assume that MSC decision was in discomfort caused by Kimi ( and we don't but lets say we do),

that's not even remotely comparable with what we are talking here. 

Simply because Russell does not even come close to what Kimi was at that given moment.

No matter how you look at it. Talent shown, raw speed, results, experience.

I really rate Russell but there;s no point even trying to compare with Kimi 2001-2005.

[noikeee]

Obviously George hasn't fought for 2 F1 championships and got the better of teammates of the caliber of Coulthard and Montoya, but he's not been given the chance has he?

This is a silly discussion but I do see the parallel.

[Marklar]

The parallel would be Max, if anything. Russell is ultimately unproven - and if Vettel didnt ran away from a much better looking Leclerc - neither will Lewis, unless he genuinely wants to retire, because then he would run away from more than half of the field as many of them are either likely better than Russell or also unproven

[RogerStone]

I just love how Russel got into Lewis's car and instantly was in a position to win a race.  Just imagine what Max would have done in Bottas's seat... 

[ForzaFormula]

I just love how Russel got into Lewis's car and instantly was in a position to win a race. Just imagine what Max would have done in Bottas's seat...

Imagine that he wouldn’t be on Hamilton s level.

[dannyricsshoe]

People assume Verstappen is a machine on here. Just to remind Hamilton 7. Verstappen 0.
As good as he is, he still has everything to prove.

Edited by dannyricsshoe, 06 April 2021 - 05:55.

[A3]

People assume Verstappen is a machine on here. Just to remind Hamilton 7. Verstappen 0.
As good as he is, he still has everything to prove.

 

Lewis won hist first championship in the 2nd best car of the field but the best car didn't have really great drivers.

The other championships were won an a dominating car.

 

How you can compare Verstappen and Hamilton by looking at WDCs is beyond me.

 

https://www.gpfans.c...to-judge-sainz/

[ForzaFormula]

Lewis won hist first championship in the 2nd best car of the field but the best car didn't have really great drivers.

The other championships were won an a dominating car.

 

How you can compare Verstappen and Hamilton by looking at WDCs is beyond me.

 

https://www.gpfans.c...to-judge-sainz/

 

Your argument is invalid and weak at best, Max still has it all to prove, Hamilton has proven it already on many occasions, Max has yet to do that, judging from the first race in the best car he is under pressure to show us now he has the best car against the current best.

But we been warned that this thread isn't to discuss which driver is best, lets move on.

[Ivanhoe]

But we been warned that this thread isn't to discuss which driver is best, lets move on.

Yeah, but you just wanted to make sure you had the last word on that, didn't you 

Edited by Ivanhoe, 06 April 2021 - 06:57.

[Requiem84]

Hamilton will have the last word on this topic when he decides to renew ir quit for 2022..

[A3]

Your argument is invalid and weak at best, Max still has it all to prove, Hamilton has proven it already on many occasions, Max has yet to do that, judging from the first race in the best car he is under pressure to show us now he has the best car against the current best.
But we been warned that this thread isn't to discuss which driver is best, lets move on.

Excuse me? My argument is weak? How about the one where I replied to? I only said comparing is really weird by just looking at championships. 

 

I'm not so sure how the pressure will change for Max if the RB really proves to be the fastest car. The races he won where he had the fastest car he didn't make any mistakes. 

 

In brazil 2018 he arguably made a mistake with Ocon but that's comparable with Hamilton running into the back of the Ferrari in pitlane in 2008.

When you look at Brazil 2019 he was under pressure but he still won. 

 

I doubt you can look back a couple of years and point out a big mistake for either of them. People question if Max can handle the pressure but he has been winning most of his junior career. I doubt it makes a difference to him.

[ExEd]

Ahhh , I see it didn’t take long to turn this as into Max vs the universe again.
God forbid there is a driver discussion that leaves him outside...
At this point we rather hand him a couple of championships just so the complex will calm down and we can discuss freely again lmao.

[SophieB]

This hasn't been a focussed discussion for some time and it's increasingly becoming a very bad tempered one, there's way more posts sniping at each other either indirectly or directly than discussing the topic at hand.

 

By all means PM me if there's significant news and it can be reopened.