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#1 midgrid

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:34

The Alpha Tauri AT02 was launched earlier today.

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#2 K20a

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:39

I like the white wheels, the rest is ass

#3 thegamer23

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:47

Classy, simple livery.

Major :up:

#4 Okyo

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:48

Do like the livery. It's simple but has a fullness to the view of the whole car. 



#5 w1Y

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:49

Not a fan of the livery. Needs another element to it. Maybe it will look better to me when it's on track

#6 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:58

Livery last year was very cool, nicest one on the grid for me. This one is ok, but in my opinion not really standing out.



#7 Ivanhoe

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:00

Lots of pictures can be found here

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#8 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:04

Almost sponsorless apart from their own fashion brand. Wonder how the fashion side is doing

#9 jee

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:04

That Williams is looking good



#10 JimmyClark

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:18

Almost sponsorless apart from their own fashion brand. Wonder how the fashion side is doing


I doubt its too much of a worry considering its all Red Bull money.

#11 Requiem84

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:19

Honda still has quite some exposure on the AT.



#12 BertoC

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:20

The livery is an improvement from the boring soulless one from last year. Kinda reminds me of the Brabham BT60

 

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Edited by BertoC, 19 February 2021 - 09:21.


#13 JRodrigues

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:22

Doesn't look fast. (Dull colours/livery)


Edited by JRodrigues, 19 February 2021 - 09:22.


#14 balage06

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:24

It's not that bad, at least the Honda branding is more preeminent than last year. But it's not a particularly good looking one either.



#15 Anja

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:28

It's not really my taste but it's well done. A thought out, cohesive design. Something which can't be said about many recent F1 liveries.


Edited by Anja, 19 February 2021 - 09:30.


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:51

AT01 vs AT02

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#17 Spillage

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:54

Looks fast!

#18 midgrid

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:09

It reminds me of this livery transition:

 

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:10

AT01 vs AT02

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Lot of work on the bargeboards, sidepods sculpting and slimming down the rear end. Looks like a decent evolution of last year.



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#20 midgrid

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:11

Honda explains key changes to Formula 1 engines for 2021

 

  • Originally planned to introduce completely new engine for 2021; was shelved due to pandemic but then reinstated following the announcement of withdrawal.
  • New engine has met targets on the dyno.
  • ICE, turbine, ERS, packaging and installation all improved.


#21 Goron3

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:16

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Honda explains key changes to Formula 1 engines for 2021

  • Originally planned to introduce completely new engine for 2021; was shelved due to pandemic but then reinstated following the announcement of withdrawal.
  • New engine has met targets on the dyno.
  • ICE, turbine, ERS, packaging and installation all improved.

They need to at least half the horsepower deficit to Mercedes. Hopefully the ERS doesn't start clipping half way down the straights.

#22 Lerdes

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:47

<p>

Honda explains key changes to Formula 1 engines for 2021

  • Originally planned to introduce completely new engine for 2021; was shelved due to pandemic but then reinstated following the announcement of withdrawal.
  • New engine has met targets on the dyno.
  • ICE, turbine, ERS, packaging and installation all improved.

Honda talk. Let's see the engine on track.

#23 JimmyTheFox

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:48

They fixed the ERS clipping last season if the Autosport Web is to be believed.

Peak power matched Mercedes, but there was a weakness in the ERS, Honda conducted deep research in its usability and found solutions.

Honda F1, 2021 will make a big leap with the introduction of new PU

https://www.as-web.jp/f1/659586/1

#24 f1rules

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:55

i think everyone even honda themselves recognized and where vocal about the big jump merc did last season and that everyone was behind, 



#25 messy

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 11:21

They've spoiled the best livery on the grid. :(

#26 danmills

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 11:30

It's not a good transition, it's like they've painted a 2D boxy livery from a single side view and expected it to look right in 3D.

 

Reminds me of those terrible 80s liveries like the JPS painted over 20XX carshapes. Wrong on all levels.



#27 Jovanotti

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 11:32

Nice livery and wheels, some serious retro vibes with that little extra stripe.

 

And an exciting driver pairing as well this year, will be rooting for Yuki (who isn't anyway??) :up:


Edited by Jovanotti, 19 February 2021 - 11:35.


#28 TomNokoe

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 11:46

Originally planned to introduce completely new engine for 2021; was shelved due to pandemic but then reinstated following the announcement of withdrawal.

 

I'll believe it when I see it, this sounds too good to be true.

 

Interesting to hear first James Key and now Jody Eggington speak openly about recouping the lost downforce from the tweaked regs. I really don't put much stock into press releases, but Eggington sounded slightly more bullish.

 

In both 2019 and 2020, they were arguably the most improved team from season start to season end. Hopefully the relative continuity from last year will help them start 2021 strong, instead of once again playing catch-up.


Edited by TomNokoe, 19 February 2021 - 11:48.


#29 Calum

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 11:56

Reminds me a bit of one of the Myteam F1 videogame liveries! (With a giant bull logo!)



#30 Tiakumosan

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 11:59

I'd like if the colors were reversed, but that's ok. The front picture reminds me of some BMW Williams liveries.

#31 renzmann

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 12:43

Honda talk. Let's see the engine on track.

Except Honda actually is usually painfully reserved in their comments. If they really said that, I'm inclined to think their PU is great this year.

 

 

Other notes:

 - What gives, it's still last year's floor?

 - What gives 2.0, it's still the same nose? They had announced to use a token to make it slimmer, but it isn't

 - The PU packaging looks like an improvement, but I always have a hard time spotting differences in that area. Might be the same like last year as well.

 

Ergo: This still ist very much not the car we'll see in testing, I guess.



#32 Quickshifter

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 12:46

Will be a tight fight with Ferrari for 6th in the championship if they nail the gains they are claiming.

#33 renzmann

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 12:51

BTW it's a livery that looks slow. Not sure if this is because it looks like a Williams livery. Anyway, I like the humbleness.



#34 TheAviator

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 14:59

Will be a tight fight with Ferrari for 6th in the championship if they nail the gains they are claiming.

Lol I love how people think Ferrari being 6th with 50hp less then competition will be replicated once they get their PU in order. It wont.

#35 Clrnc

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 15:15

Am I the only one who likes this new livery more than last year? Especially as they are smart enough to make it predominantly blue now as there are too many white cars around. 



#36 Otaku

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 15:18

I'm inclined to say that this car will surprise some people, but we'll see...



#37 Quickshifter

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 15:54

Lol I love how people think Ferrari being 6th with 50hp less then competition will be replicated once they get their PU in order. It wont.

Mercedes, Renault and Honda are not sitting still twiddling their thumbs. They are bringing upgraded power units as well. That Ferrari was not just draggy but moody and inconsistent as well. They would need lot more than a couple of tokens to fix that. Logically looking at it i see Aston Martin, McLaren and even Alpine finishing ahead. Not saying its not possible for Ferrari to recover their deficit both on chassis and engine just that unlikely to happen over one winter with a couple of tokens. Alpha Tauri had a car with very good tyre life and consistent in all types of corners.

#38 vlado

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 16:37

dunno about the technical bit, but great work on the aesthetics  :up:



#39 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 17:06

Lol I love how people think Ferrari being 6th with 50hp less then competition will be replicated once they get their PU in order. It wont.


This. Especially McLaren fans who talk about top three and challenging Red Bull for second as if Ferrari are not even part of the equation anymore.

A propos the Alpha Tauri, not liking the new livery too mich sadly. Hopefully they can be solid midfield at the least. Really looking forward to see if Pierre can push on and if Yuki can hold his own.

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#40 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 17:53

I must say again one of the best livery’s. Like the more blue on it compared to last year’s car too.

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 19 February 2021 - 17:53.


#41 TheAviator

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 18:20

Mercedes, Renault and Honda are not sitting still twiddling their thumbs. They are bringing upgraded power units as well. That Ferrari was not just draggy but moody and inconsistent as well. They would need lot more than a couple of tokens to fix that. Logically looking at it i see Aston Martin, McLaren and even Alpine finishing ahead. Not saying its not possible for Ferrari to recover their deficit both on chassis and engine just that unlikely to happen over one winter with a couple of tokens. Alpha Tauri had a car with very good tyre life and consistent in all types of corners.

They wont be twiddling their thumbs, but Ferrari saying on record they wont have worst engine next season means they made big enough jump to expect competition wont be able to replicate (obv they were 40-50hp ahead). On top of that Ferrari was designed with high drag duo to engine power, once they got down so much on engine power this compounded issue even more - it was lose lose for them.

I do not expect it next year, especially given that Leclerc lead Norris, Sainz and even Ric in points 3 races before end of season in car with such deficit.

Edited by TheAviator, 19 February 2021 - 18:21.


#42 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 19:20

1997 Arrows

#43 FLB

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 19:24

It reminds me of the 1972 Antares-Offenhauser IndyCar, which is generally considered as the ugliest IndyCar of all time...

 

 

 

 

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Edited by FLB, 19 February 2021 - 19:25.


#44 midgrid

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 20:29

Someone on Reddit has inverted the livery.

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#45 skicrack

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 20:56

Someone on Reddit has inverted the livery.

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Thumbs up for this one! as many as i can spare!  :clap:



#46 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 21:53

Would be better with black rims, and white tyres.

#47 M66R

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 23:36

It hides it's length alot better than the McLaren

#48 TheAviator

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 23:38

It hides it's length alot better than the McLaren

I think its quite a bit shorter anyway.

#49 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 20 February 2021 - 00:06

I think its quite a bit shorter anyway.


Certainly is when Tsunoda is on board....

... eh?...

Cause he’s short.

Meh.

I hope to see them mix up the race suits one time. That would be a glorious sight.

#50 TomNokoe

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Posted 24 February 2021 - 14:10

New nose. That explains the token spend.

 

:love: :love: :love:

 

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There's a non watermark, low res version of this image on Autosprint.

 

Cropped and brightened, you can also see the front wing "bumps" along the base, similar to what Alfa showed.

 

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Edited by TomNokoe, 24 February 2021 - 14:27.