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#1 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 10:23

https://www.motorspo...trento/5545176/

Swap to Sparkling wine on the podiums from this year due to a new tie up with ‘Ferrari Trento’ - and Italian wine company.

I think they should use Gin instead. Big market for it these days, gold mine!

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#2 PayasYouRace

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 10:25

Let’s face it, nobody actually respects “Champagne” being legally protected. Fizzy wine = champagne.

#3 Marklar

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 10:27

More importantly Ferrari will be on the podium every race

#4 Risil

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 10:33

So long as it comes in a bottle the size of a small dog and can expel a cork with enough force to kill someone, I am happy.



#5 DeVol

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 10:35

Fizzy wine = champagne.

 

The Ferrari stuff is at least Méthode champenoise



#6 ANF

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 10:40

Will Lando's old cork trick work on it?



#7 SophieB

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 11:23

So long as it comes in a bottle the size of a small dog and can expel a cork with enough force to kill someone, I am happy.

Also, does it still sting if it gets in people’s eyes? It’s fun to me as a keen armchair guesser of driver psychology to see who sprays it directly to the eyes of their rivals under the guise of jollity.



#8 JimmyClark

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 11:28

So will the "Champaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagne" that is shouted after the presentations now be "Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarkling wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine"? 



#9 Fastcake

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 11:34

I love the bollocks they make Domenicali say as to why F1 picked the new champagne, when the actual answer is of course “they offered the highest to give us free booze!”

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 11:38

They already have it on their website:

 

https://www.ferrarit.../en/ferrari-f1/



#11 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 12:46

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Official Toast of F1

Official celebration drink perhaps... they’ll have to pay extra if they want to be the official toast...

Hopefully they use 50/50 bread.

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 12:47

I love the bollocks they make Domenicali say as to why F1 picked the new champagne, when the actual answer is of course “they offered the highest to give us free booze!”


It’s the time of year for all that, especially with the launches.... ‘alignment of goals and ethics’ = They ponied up a bunch of cash and like where we put their stickers :lol:

#13 Dipster

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 12:48

Let’s face it, nobody actually respects “Champagne” being legally protected. Fizzy wine = champagne.

 

 

The French do! Try that in France............



#14 Pete_f1

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 12:57

Coca cola would be good or maybe Happy Shopper lemonade

#15 Imperial

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:17

Let’s face it, nobody actually respects “Champagne” being legally protected. Fizzy wine = champagne.

 

Aaaaaaaah, now I understand.....

 

I read the Autosport article and was perplexed as I thought they used sparkling wine anyway...

 

Such interesting news.



#16 pacificquay

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:28

It's not like it hasn't happened before - they used Chandon sparkling wine a few years back before the Carbon champagne deal



#17 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:31

There is zero reason for FIA to be involved in the spraying of wine, lemonade or Champagne. It lost it's luster the second it became regulated, and was already then over rated and over used.



#18 JeePee

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:32

No one yet?

 

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#19 Stephane

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:33

It's not like it hasn't happened before - they used Chandon sparkling wine a few years back before the Carbon champagne deal

 

Both Chandon and Carbon are real Champagne



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#20 pacificquay

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:37

Both Chandon and Carbon are real Champagne

 

Moet and Chandon is champagne

 

Chandon (a different product) is sparkling wine



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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:38

So long as it comes in a bottle the size of a small dog and can expel a cork with enough force to kill someone, I am happy.

It'll be fine until the competing brands complain that the Ferrari cork is being expelled at much higher force than should be possible. FIA will investigate and conclude that everything is fine. In 2022 the podium celebrations will be like watching three older gents pee on their own shoes.

#22 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 13:51

Coca cola would be good or maybe Happy Shopper lemonade


Coke with mentos!

#23 NixxxoN

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 14:13

I dont get this article header. French champagne is still a type of sparkling wine.
 

Moet and Chandon is champagne

Chandon (a different product) is sparkling wine


I didnt know there was an american Chandon brand. Is it related to the french Moet & Chandon?
All are sparkling wines though, as I said. Champagne is just a french version of the kind.
Same for Cava from Catalonia, Asti and Prosecco for Italy, Espumante from Portugal, and so on

Edited by NixxxoN, 02 March 2021 - 14:30.


#24 keeppari

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 14:56

I dont get this article header. French champagne is still a type of sparkling wine.

Certain geographical indications such as champagne have monopoly rights on the use of the name where the products quality or reputation is due to its geography.

Asking to choose between sparkling wine and champagne is essentially the same as asking whether you would like to have "a car" or "a car engineered in Germany".

Edited by keeppari, 02 March 2021 - 14:56.


#25 DeKnyff

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 14:57

I dont get this article header. French champagne is still a type of sparkling wine.
 

I didnt know there was an american Chandon brand. Is it related to the french Moet & Chandon?
All are sparkling wines though, as I said. Champagne is just a french version of the kind.
Same for Cava from Catalonia, Asti and Prosecco for Italy, Espumante from Portugal, and so on

 

Not exactly. Champagne and Cava are purely made through 'méthode champenoise', this is, the second fermentation takes place inside the bottles, whereas that's compulsory in the case of Asti or Prosecco: it can be refermented in external tanks of stainless steel. IDK the case of the Portuguese Espumante. The quality and delicacy is not as good in a massive stainless steel tank as it is inside every single bottle.

 

Not to speak about the surgical level of care applied to the vineyards of the Champagne area, for which the vignerons obtain extraordinarily high prices from the 'Maisons de Champagne'. Legend makes it that any Champagne winegrower worth his salt takes his grapes to the winery in a Ferrari or a Maserati (although I'm not sure that's 100% real, Ferraris or Maseratis don't make great delivery vans).



#26 DeKnyff

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:02

Certain geographical indications such as champagne have monopoly rights on the use of the name where the products quality or reputation is due to its geography.

Asking to choose between sparkling wine and champagne is essentially the same as asking whether you would like to have "a car" or "a car engineered in Germany".

 

Nope, it's not the same. A car can be equally well engineered in Germany or anywhere else, even if Germany is a country of great engineering tradition. But you can train engineers (or take them from Germany, if you like), or build auxiliary companies and put them at work where ever you want. However, a wine is the produce of a soil and a climate ('terroir') which only exist in one place. It can be similar in other places, but never the same.



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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:05

I dont get this article header. French champagne is still a type of sparkling wine.
 

I didnt know there was an american Chandon brand. Is it related to the french Moet & Chandon?
 

 

I went to the Chandon winery in Australia for a day out - if I recall correctly are the same company, just the Moet & Chandon brand is the one based in the champagne region in france. 

 

If you see a bottle of Chandon (without the Moet), its not champagne. 



#28 NixxxoN

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:07

 

Not exactly. Champagne and Cava are purely made through 'méthode champenoise', this is, the second fermentation takes place inside the bottles, whereas that's compulsory in the case of Asti or Prosecco: it can be refermented in external tanks of stainless steel. IDK the case of the Portuguese Espumante. The quality and delicacy is not as good in a massive stainless steel tank as it is inside every single bottle.

 

Not to speak about the surgical level of care applied to the vineyards of the Champagne area, for which the vignerons obtain extraordinarily high prices from the 'Maisons de Champagne'. Legend makes it that any Champagne winegrower worth his salt takes his grapes to the winery in a Ferrari or a Maserati (although I'm not sure that's 100% real, Ferraris or Maseratis don't make great delivery vans).

 

Sure, I know there are differences in production, quality and so on... but still, its all fundamentally sparkling wine.

And I agree that french champagne is overpriced, if you meant that.

We could call champagne "high quality sparkling wine" and not just "sparlking wine" if that makes them happy... :smoking:


Edited by NixxxoN, 02 March 2021 - 15:09.


#29 ensign14

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:23

 

(although I'm not sure that's 100% real, Ferraris or Maseratis don't make great delivery vans).

 

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#30 DeKnyff

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:26

 

 

Ok, but that's for bread!   ;)



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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:38

Let’s face it, nobody actually respects “Champagne” being legally protected. Fizzy wine = champagne.

 

Any French member will be about ready to show you to Mme Guillotine. Having sampled American "champagne" on a few occasions I cannot say I blame them.

 

Back when the Spanish Grand Prix was held at Jerez it was sponsored by Tio Pepe sherry and they got bottles of sherry on the podium instead of champagne. Of course in recent years we've had rose water in Muslim countries. 



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Posted 02 March 2021 - 15:45

Ok, but that's for bread!   ;)

Which is what the winner earns.  :)



#33 eibyyz

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 16:56

Coca cola would be good or maybe Happy Shopper lemonade

 

Coca-Cola have their virtue-signalling down pat, they'll fit right in F1, no problem.  #wokeacola



#34 Burai

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 17:22

If they want to attract a younger audience they need to get spraying Robinsons Fruit Shoots on the podium.



#35 HeadFirst

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 18:13

I think mega-cans of Bud would give F1 a more sophisticated image. Sparkling wine ..... bleh!  :yawnface:



#36 smitten

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 18:46

If they want to attract a younger audience they need to get spraying Robinsons Fruit Shoots on the podium.

Or a tin of Red Bull?



#37 r4mses

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 18:52

Coca cola would be good or maybe Happy Shopper lemonade

 

Diet Coke feat. Mentos. :clap:



#38 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 19:07

Or a tin of Red Bull?

 

Or Rich Energy.



#39 masa90

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 19:21

Not really a topic that really interests me too much. Bigger things to worry about current f1 than whatever they spray champagne or sparkling wine on the podium. For majority of recent years I have already turned the broadcast off before podium anyways.



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#40 ARTGP

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 19:31

This makes the schooey a bit more disgusting (no alcohol to kill things)



#41 Clatter

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 19:32

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Official Toast of F1

Official celebration drink perhaps... they’ll have to pay extra if they want to be the official toast...

Hopefully they use 50/50 bread.

 


The "Official sparkling wine of F1". 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That has such a classy ring to it.

#42 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 20:12


The "Official sparkling wine of F1". 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That has such a classy ring to it.


Maybe Sloer could bid for the next contract

#43 Clatter

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 20:24

Maybe Sloer could bid for the next contract

 


Red Bull are missing a trick.

#44 jonpollak

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 20:25

Dan Gurney calls BS.
Jp

#45 Collombin

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 20:46

Dan Gurney calls BS.
Jp


Probably. But it's also BS that he started the tradition.

#46 Tombstone

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 20:54

I only drink English 'sparkling wine'. It's as good, if not better, than foreign stuff and it helps our economy.



#47 Alan Lewis

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 22:16

Looks across at pint of cider on table.

Has idea for Lando's next podium.

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Posted 03 March 2021 - 00:57

Dan Gurney calls BS.
Jp

 

Ain't that the truth!!