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#1 SophieB

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:17

At times it feels like F1 and it's TV partners collectively take their advice from Mazeppa, one of the strippers from the musical Gypsy:
 
You can pull all the stops out
'Till they call the cops out;
Grind your behind till you're banned.
But you gotta get a gimmick
If you wanna get a hand.
You can sacrifice your saccro
Working in the back row.
Bump in a dump till you're dead.
Kid, you gotta have a gimmick

If you wanna get ahead.
 
Now, I will hold my hand up if this becomes a much loved part of the F1 experience but this...
 
 
 


@F1 will unveil six new TV graphics across the season to bring viewers more information during races.
 
- Braking Performance
- Car Exploitation
- Energy Usage
- Start Analysis
- Pitlane performance
- Undercut threat


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#2 JeePee

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:19

"Formula One racing will implement a new, elimination-style qualifying format for 2016’s opening Grand Prix in Australia after it was approved by the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council on Friday."

#3 P123

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:21

Mini sectors (on the broadcast feed at least).

 

Fuel usage/ remaining graphic.



#4 danmills

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:25

Wasn't there some ridiculous overtaking chance overlay as a percentage in recent times?

#5 Risil

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:27

Wasn't there some ridiculous overtaking chance overlay as a percentage in recent times?

 

That one was there last race in Bahrain, iirc.

 

The weird thing about the F1 broadcast gimmicks is that they seem to be constructed for a world where there aren't up to three commentators yammering on nonstop about what's happening on track, what happened 10 minutes ago and what might happen soon. So the effect is often information overload, and occasionally said commentators actively mocking your graphics.



#6 krapmeister

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:27

Double-points season finale 

 

Anything presented by AWS


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#7 Lights

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:29

DRS

 

Oh, crap.



#8 TheMidnight

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:35

Boxing ring announcements for the drivers @ Austin 



#9 Thursday

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:36

Infrared on-board cameras



#10 TheMidnight

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:41

KERS



#11 SophieB

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:42

Boxing ring announcements for the drivers @ Austin


Noooooo, I loved that one. Especially the way everyone including the guy announcing it all got openly bored after about the first four drivers and showed the awareness that there were still so many drivers to go. Reminded me of Alan Bleasdale’s excellent joke in GBH: 

“who’s the most unpopular man on the terraces at Borussia Mönchengladbach?”

”Dunno”

”The man who goes ‘Give us a ‘B....!’ “



#12 Henri Greuter

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:43

Ban on tire changes for new season (2005), IndyGP sealed the fate of that rule change


Edited by Henri Greuter, 15 April 2021 - 11:44.


#13 Risil

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:45

Banning tyre changes was one of those "fine line between stupid and clever" ideas.

#14 Ruusperi

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:46

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#15 OvDrone

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:47

The Valencia Street Circuit.



#16 F1matt

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:48

The temporary tyre chicanes in 1994 added to any corner that looked a bit to fast. 



#17 A.Fant

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:50

Banning tyre changes was one of those "fine line between stupid and clever" ideas.

While arguably more gimmicky than banning refueling (which aside from annoying my purism I think is very important to keep races from becoming processions) and Indy showing it to be potentially dangerous it did create an interesting dynamic in races where one of the top runners could run into a snowballing situation that created excitement like in Monaco.



#18 jee

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:50

Adjustable front-wing



#19 Clatter

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:51

Ghost car when comparing laps.

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#20 krapmeister

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:53

Vietnam GP



#21 SophieB

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:53

Mexican-GP-podium-ceremony-Sebastian-Vet

Adjacent to this guy, there was also the mysterious F1 mascot: https://forums.autos...cot/?hl= mascot



#22 SophieB

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:54

Oh, and novelty Pirelli hats! I actually loved those.



#23 Risil

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:55

Oh, and novelty Pirelli hats! I actually loved those.

 

Novelty Pirelli hats should come back.



#24 JeePee

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:57

Ghost car when comparing laps.

I've missed this. Video? Sounds cool.



#25 Risil

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:57

Adjustable front-wing

 

When I first read about the adjustable wing flaps I thought it was a pretty clever idea to regain the downforce lost in dirty air. But I'm not enough of an aerodynamicist, or perhaps just not a good enough thinker, to know why they didn't work!



#26 Baddoer

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 11:58

In mid 2000-s there were live Throttle/Brake graphics in two-way battles.



#27 SophieB

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:01

Novelty Pirelli hats should come back.

 
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#28 Clatter

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:13

I've missed this. Video? Sounds cool.

 


Only examples I can find are from sim racing. It was the same effect, but overlaying the cars. I prefer it to the side by side view. Can't remember how long ago it would have been when they used it, and it was only for a short time.

#29 David Lightman

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:16

I think if a certain driver read this thread title he'd hope that exhaust blown diffusers had been around longer than the 4 years he got to use one.



#30 TomNokoe

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:19

I remember a funky overlay they used exclusively in 2009 where you could see two cars go through a corner at the same time to compare braking, mid corner and acceleration.

Keeping to the 2009 theme, fuel weights released post-quali!



#31 Clatter

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:20

I think if a certain driver read this thread title he'd hope that exhaust blown diffusers had been around longer than the 4 years he got to use one.

 


4 years is still a good length of time in F1. Many devices are banned within a season or 2.

#32 OvDrone

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:24

In all honesty, the early '11-'13 era Pirelli tyres were the gimmick I loathed most. Artificial drama provided by products meant to break - like some late-capitalist planned obsolescence nightmare.

 

Also, those painfully awkward podium interviews by celebrities. Crippling cringe to leave your palette in ruins after every race.

 

Add the DRS and aero gimmicks that spawn hideous cars and it all coalesces into the 2013 season; a disgusting season.


Edited by OvDrone, 15 April 2021 - 13:08.


#33 Tiakumosan

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:44

One lap quali.

Combined lap quali.

Shootout quali.

#34 JeePee

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 12:59

Luckily this also lasted just one Grand Prix

 

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#35 Claymore25

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:00

El Brabham BT46B.



#36 pacificquay

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:08

One lap qualifying was great as was the 2005 no tyre change rule.

Sad to see them regarded here as gimmicks when they're the ultimate in purity.



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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:10

Aggregate qualifying times, the Bahrain endurance circuit, and the Bahrain outer loop come to mind. Two-day weekends and sprint races may soon join the list!

 

Oh, and one for the anoraks: the Indianapolis 500 being worth World Championship points.



#38 Vesuvius

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:11

One lap qualifying was great as was the 2005 no tyre change rule.
Sad to see them regarded here as gimmicks when they're the ultimate in purity.



This.

#39 PlatenGlass

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:11

One lap quali.

Combined lap quali.

Shootout quali.

Most people don't seem to see the current shootout quali as a gimmick for some reason. It's a hella gimmick.

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#40 JimmyClark

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:11

as was the 2005 no tyre change rule.

 

 

It wasn't. 2005 had the least overtaking of any season in recorded history. 



#41 pacificquay

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:16

Back in the day of your profile picture being at his prime they often used the same tyres for multiple races, let alone one.

 

The number of overtaking moves is not the sole determinant of good racing.

 

What could be more fair and pure for racing than everyone running the same set of tyres for the whole race?

 

Also, the mistake in 2005 was still allowing refuelling....



#42 Alan Lewis

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:17

The Austrian trophy robots last year.

Bring. Them. Back.

#43 greenman

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:17

In all honesty, the early '11-'13 era Pirelli tyires were the gimmick I loathed most. Artificial drama provided by products meant to break - like some late-capitalist planned obsolescence nightmare.

 

Also, those painfully awkward podium interviews by celebrities. Crippling cringe to leave your palette in ruins after every race.

 

Add the DRS and aero gimmicks that spawn hideous cars and it all coalesces into the 2013 season; a disgusting season.

In hindsight the Pirellis were one of the things that kind of soured F1 for me, but at the time I thought the idea wasn't bad, and I still think that it works in theory. Like, we all knew how impossible it was for those rock solid Bridgestones to provide different any variety in strategies. Have one faster but more degradable + one slower, but more durable compound (+ a third one i suppose) should mean difference in strategies and more interesting racing. 

But that wasn't really the case, was it... It was kind of - one bad, and one worse tyre compound. Not even "faster and more degradable", just worse.

 

Still, DRS remains the gimmick that I hated the most. I understand why it exists, I know that races (on some tracks anyway) would probably be worse without it. But it really should be a last ditch effort and a temporary solution at best. Yet it's 10 years later, and more prominent than ever, it killed racing on tracks where lack of overtaking hadn't been a problem (eg. Spa). And when I look around online (more reddit or social media than here maybe), it seems like fans have gotten so used to that. If a faster car unable to overtake a slower car, it's seen as proof that the DRS zone should be longer, or that the track is no good "for modern racing".

 

As far as "short lived" gimmicks if you can call them that, how about qualifying with race fuel onboard? Remember when they introduced knockout sessions, and Q3 started and it was just.. driving around to burn fuel?


Edited by greenman, 15 April 2021 - 13:18.


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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:23

Aggregate qualifying times, the Bahrain endurance circuit, and the Bahrain outer loop come to mind. Two-day weekends and sprint races may soon join the list!

 

The endurance circuit was boring as hell, but the outer loop was fun. I'd love to see it return, if nothing else to add some variety to the calendar.

 

One lap qualifying was great as was the 2005 no tyre change rule.

Sad to see them regarded here as gimmicks when they're the ultimate in purity.

The only problem I have with one lap quali, is that it's unfair when it came to changeable conditions. If they'd decide to combine the knockout format with one lap quali for the fastest cars (e.g. top 6 after Q2), I'd be all for it!  



#45 pacificquay

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:23

The other gimmick we have today which has been "normalised" is the compulsion to run two different tyre compounds in the race.

 

If we're not going to ban tactical pitstops, I should at least be allowed to put a set of hards on and try to run them without stopping, a la Berger in Mexico 86



#46 jee

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:25

Closed pitlane under SC until everyone has caught up



#47 ensign14

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:26

Balestre had an idea for a new overtaking flag.  White with a green arrow.  He showed a diagram off in a drivers' meeting.  Eddie Cheever asked why the arrow was blue in the pic and Balestre said it was because they couldn't find a green pen.  And that was the last anyone saw of it.



#48 Afterburner

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:27

Closed pitlane under SC until everyone has caught up

Good shout on that one, but I wouldn't mind seeing its return!

#49 Risil

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:27

Oh, and one for the anoraks: the Indianapolis 500 being worth World Championship points.


The mistake there was trying to include it without aligning the technical regulations, which is what they did all-too-briefly in the 1920s. If that had been the case in the fifties you might have seen some crossover.

#50 Claymore25

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Posted 15 April 2021 - 13:30

The other gimmick we have today which has been "normalised" is the compulsion to run two different tyre compounds in the race.

 

If we're not going to ban tactical pitstops, I should at least be allowed to put a set of hards on and try to run them without stopping, a la Berger in Mexico 86

I agree. Should be allowed.