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#1 Unsorted

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Posted 17 April 2021 - 22:25

Apologies, but cannot see an original thread for this conundrum, but can well believe there is one. Picture below.

 

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Have after a daft amount of time solved some parts of the problem in that the builder is unknown. I believe the car is prop for a movie. However I know what the car in the picture is based on. It is 100% a Sunbeam Alpine.

 

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#2 LionelB

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Posted 17 April 2021 - 22:36

Might that be an Israeli Sabra???

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#3 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 April 2021 - 22:48

This photo generated much discussion a few years ago, but we never came up with a conclusive identification:

1950s/60s Mystery Car

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Posted 17 April 2021 - 23:00

This photo generated much discussion a few years ago, but we never came up with a conclusive identification:

1950s/60s Mystery Car

Can absolutely guarantee it is a Sunbeam Alpine. Also, the work to make it into the mystery car is not totally irreversible. Unlikely, but it could still be walking/driving amongst us as a blue Alpine.



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Posted 18 April 2021 - 11:10

The really interesting thing about that photo (the photo is beautiful) is the man in a jacket and no tie walking by the traffic lights. He seems to be talking on his mobile phone, something very normal nowadays in that place, but in 1962????!!!.
Ideal for those people who are looking for proof of time travel.



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Posted 18 April 2021 - 12:22

The man by the traffic light is smoking a fag and is raising his hand to remove the said stogie from his gob, v. common in the Sixties but now a habit only practised by professional smokers and those of the historical bent.



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Posted 18 April 2021 - 12:30

The man by the traffic light is smoking a fag and is raising his hand to remove the said stogie from his gob, v. common in the Sixties but now a habit only practised by professional smokers and those of the historical bent.

That's what I assumed, but this photo would delight those who look for that kind of thing on the web. Of course I was joking when I wrote that.



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Posted 18 April 2021 - 18:52

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To further prove the car was on correct lines, created part of Oxford Street and used a camera solver to work out lens and position of camera.


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Posted 20 April 2021 - 23:45

There was a post on FB recently identifying the car as a Sunbeam design exercise based with a Debonair  body adaptation. The poster showed copies of the drawings etc. Fairthorpe/Turner pages spring to mind.

Roger Lund, who needs to get out more.



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 12:32

Can absolutely guarantee it is a Sunbeam Alpine. Also, the work to make it into the mystery car is not totally irreversible. Unlikely, but it could still be walking/driving amongst us as a blue Alpine.

I'd be interested to know the basis of 'absolutely guaranteeing' it is a Sunbeam Alpine.  The seats look as though they are too far back relative to the rear axle line, the bonnet line looks too low to accommodate an Alpine engine and radiator  and there is no sign of a scuttle between the windscreen and the training edge of the bonnet, which is structurally essential on an Alpine.  Granted the rear wing profile looks similar and the windscreen could be a contemporary Alpine rear window, but I really do doubt that it has Alpine underpinnings.



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 12:55

I remember catching the No.15 on a regular basis, never saw that car...



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 13:51

That's what I assumed, but this photo would delight those who look for that kind of thing on the web. Of course I was joking when I wrote that.

 

Your time-travel idea may be right, Claudio. Perhaps this car is still to be designed.  :)  (I think the 'man with the mobile phone' is wearing a tie -  a bow tie perhaps?).

 

Back to the car. I was leafing through some early 1960s kit-car pages and, as Roger suggests, there are hints of Debonair, Turner and Fairthorpe. GSM Delta too. Even the Reliant Sabre 6.  There are some Ashley bodies that almost match, but not quite, so perhaps it was a one-off laminate shell, never to be seen again.



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 15:12

Although the Alpine theory is tempting, the door shape is wrong. On the Alpine, it is a basically oblong shape, but the mystery car has a oor that overlaps the rear wheel arch.

 

There were some fastback versions of the Alpine  such as this one from Harrington, but as can be seen, the doors are different, as is the fastback part itself.