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[SophieB]

Massive crash, any analysis, consequences can go here. 
 

[masa90]

Really interested to see how this gets played here.

[SparkPlug86]

Initial feeling is that Bottas moved too late.

[DutchQuicksilver]

Definitely Russel’s fault. Looks like he slightly clipped the grass on the right there and ended up in a spin, crashing into Bottas.

[FirstnameLastname]

We need an ‘at fault’ poll

[FirstnameLastname]

Russell is a cocky shite. Smashes both of them out the race and then has the cheek to whack Bottas on the helmet as claim he’s hard done by.

Maybe a career in Football calls

[masa90]

Russells fault. Clearly IMO. He seems to make such a boogeyman of getting to points in a Williams.

[SparkPlug86]

Definitely Russel’s fault. Looks like he slightly clipped the grass on the right there and ended up in a spin, crashing into Bottas.

Where else did he have to go at that closing speed? Also... why wasn’t Bottas looking in his mirrors and why would you not defend the inside line?

[Peat]

The racing line switches sides on this 'straight' several times, especially at the end where the speeds are highest. It almost invites a shunt like this.

[A3]

Definitely Russel’s fault. Looks like he slightly clipped the grass on the right there and ended up in a spin, crashing into Bottas.

 

He clipped the grass because he made an evasive move. The track went left and Bottas kept his wheel straight if I saw it correctly. 

[engineblock1]

For me view from Raikkonen's cam kind of confirms it was 100% Russell fault.

[SophieB]

We need an ‘at fault’ poll

Oh all right.

[Darnswim]

Russells fault for me. Kimi's cam shows that Bottas didn't actually do anything wrong.

[DutchQuicksilver]

He clipped the grass because he made an evasive move. The track went left and Bottas kept his wheel straight if I saw it correctly. 

 

Hmm, didn’t really look like an evasive move to me. Track is tight there anyway.

[Peat]

The racing line switches sides on this 'straight' several times, especially at the end where the speeds are highest. It almost invites a shunt like this.

 

Also, wet offline on slicks. Sounds like his started getting wheelspin when he went offline. 

From Raikkonen's view, the car is bottoming quite alot. Not sure if thats a factor?

[Rinehart]

Bottas jinked right just as Russell pulled out to overtake. This isn’t about leaving space but moving too late.

[TheFish]

Racing incident for me.

[ren]

Racing incident caused by track profile, slippery conditions and two drivers who are not the best at wheel to wheel racing.

 

I base this opinion on nothing.

[BRK]

Bottas moved like Hungary last year (or was it 2019?) But the crash was Russell's fault, he lost it with one wheel on the grass. 

[FirstnameLastname]

Oh all right.

What’s the ‘other’ option for? Ericsson?

[BRK]

What’s the ‘other’ option for? Ericsson?

 

Seb Vettel!

[Jambo]

Racing incident but with Kimi's view I lean to Bottas, squeezed across, then right before he jinked towards Russell which led to Russell touching the grass.

I would probably still go with Racing Incident.

[johnnyw]

How someone gets that as bottas fault is beyond me. Bottas didnt do anything wrong, russel just dropped rear wheel to grass,binned and collected both.

[SophieB]

What’s the ‘other’ option for? Ericsson?

THIS IS WHY I DONT DO POLLS LOL

 

(for real though, because there always seems to be someone who complains their view is not captured in the options)

[noikeee]

Bottas is defending later than he should, Russell gets spooked and puts a wheel in the grass when he had more space and didn't need to. Racing incident, both messed up.

[Massa]

For me it's racing incident occurred because Bottas move slightly to the right.

[Diablobb81]

Still can't decide to blame one more so racing incident.

[ckolcz]

For me it's racing incident occurred because Bottas move slightly to the right.

This is exactly what happened.

[Jovanotti]

Where is Valtteri's onboard??

[Currahee]

Brundle etc. talk of Bottas jerking to the right. I've yet to see that. Russell lost it and took them both out. Whether he touched the grass or not, I don't know. Russell to blame for me.

[hayabusasc]

50/50 incident. Bottas shows his lack of class once again when he himself ruined his own race. Sticking his middle finger up like a petulant child.

George equally shouldn't have slapped Bottas helmet. Neither showing they deserve a Mercedes drive there..

Edited by hayabusasc, 18 April 2021 - 14:17.

[Calum]

Pains me to say. Russell.

Rare points opportunity thrown away (again).

[FirstnameLastname]

Brundle etc. talk of Bottas jerking to the right. I've yet to see that. Russell lost it and took them both out. Whether he touched the grass or not, I don't know. Russell to blame for me.

Yep. Loads of room there... I’ve no idea what Brundle is seeing

[Vesuvius]

Russell's fault.

[MrAerodynamicist]

As I posted in the race thread, it reminds me of the Rosberg-Hamilton crash. The guy in front closes the door right on the limit of what's allowed and the guy behind has just too much extra speed to do much but run out of road.

[Francesc]

Bottas panicked seeing Russell was going to overtake him in a Williams and didn't leave enough space on the right.

[William Hunt]

Imho Russell lost the car when his wheels went over the white line

[Topsu]

Russell panicked, Bottas left space there.

[SophieB]

I was for real terrified that another car was going to plough into them while they were distracted by their argument. Probably not likely but still.

[Kershy]

Russel chose his line, Bottas pinched him. Past the point of backing out of it and the track was damp on that part so it spun the rears up. Bad incident but a racing one.

[FirstnameLastname]

I was for real terrified that another car was going to plough into them while they were distracted by their argument. Probably not likely but still.

I thought The Russell was heading over to check on Bottas as he hadn’t moved out of the car yet. Instead it was to swear at him and bang him on the head.

Imagine if that behaviour came from a nationless driver...

[A3]

the moment Russel moved right, look at how Bottas is hugging the left white line. Track is about to move left.

 

Bottas keeps following the racing line, as you can see by the lighter grey asphalt.

 

The moment Russell hits the grass. Bottas is now to the left of the racing line. Again, we can see this by watching the lighter grey asphalt.

 

I'm convinced Russell thought Bottas was pushing him wide. 

[RekF1]

Russell's reaction was atrocious.

[SophieB]

I thought The Russell was heading over to check on Bottas as he hadn’t moved out of the car yet. Instead it was to swear at him and bang him on the head.

Imagine if that behaviour came from a nationless driver...

I do think it was really bad, yes.

[Laster]

I think racing incident induced by the wet track. Bottas does drift left, kind of the natural line through a left kink. Russell responds to that drift trying to leave enough space as he comes alongside and touches wet grass which immediately causes wheelspin and sends him pivoting into Bottas side.

[hayabusasc]

I thought The Russell was heading over to check on Bottas as he hadn’t moved out of the car yet. Instead it was to swear at him and bang him on the head.

Imagine if that behaviour came from a nationless driver...

That's utter nonsense. Russell's reaction comes after Bottas sticks a finger up at him.

Quit your casual xenophobia.

[Button4life]

the moment Russel moved right, look at how Bottas is hugging the left white line. Track is about to move left.

 

Bottas keeps following the racing line, as you can see by the lighter grey asphalt.

 

The moment Russell hits the grass. Bottas is now to the left of the racing line. Again, we can see this by watching the lighter grey asphalt.

 

I'm convinced Russell thought Bottas was pushing him wide. 

Bottas was following the racing line... This incident is quite similair to the incident between Button and Hamilton in Canada 2011. It happens to the best

[FirstnameLastname]

Both on dry tyres, Bottas taking the racing line as he’s in front. He’s hardly going to move onto the wet track to try and defend while leaving the dry stuff clear for George to come by.

To be fair, he shouldn’t be scrapping with a Williams to begin with. Embarrassing.

[noikeee]

the moment Russel moved right, look at how Bottas is hugging the left white line. Track is about to move left.


Bottas keeps following the racing line, as you can see by the lighter grey asphalt.


The moment Russell hits the grass. Bottas is now to the left of the racing line. Again, we can see this by watching the lighter grey asphalt.


I'm convinced Russell thought Bottas was pushing him wide.

He can't choose to drift across to anywhere near the racing line when he's entering the kink well to the inside and another car is getting a monster tow on him.

[A3]

Russell's reaction was atrocious.

 

Bottas sticking his middle finger in Russell's face was ok?

Edited by A3, 18 April 2021 - 14:26.