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#851 Peat

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 07:33

Cockpit temperatures became a topic again this weekend:

 

https://twitter.com/...417531439751172



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#852 DS27

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 07:40

McLoughlin's been kinda anonymous so far...

 

 

Tough crowd - It was his third single seater start, other than perhaps one or two formula ford races over ten years ago. I think he's doing great, considering he has only driven a 1500 KG saloon for the last decade and has so much to adjust to. He run ahead of Power for most of yesterdays race, kept it clean and finished ahead of many experienced runners and beat last weeks winner, as well as a certain fellow rookie and ex-F1 driver.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 07:49

I really enjoyed the race yesterday. May have been a bit static at the front, but there was plenty of action elsewhere and it's such a great track. The on-boards are so good, giving a real sensation of the difficulty in man-handling the cars round there. Would love to go there one year.


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#854 Anja

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 07:55

I have to admit, as time goes by... I'm beginning to see Rossi more and more as Will Power, Mk. 2. Obviously very fast but his main weakness is that he loses his head under pressure.

(Please don't hurt me Anja.)

 

Mostly it seems to me that he let too much frustration to build up over time, and now tries to force the turnaround in his fortunes instead of waiting and letting it happen more naturally. Which is an easy way to get into a vicious cycle.


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#855 Peat

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 08:02

I think people are making too much of the collision with Rahal. 

Rossi did put the squeeze on Rahal as he was on the dive which ultimately caused the contact, Rahal HAD to got for it with the hot tyre advantage. But at the same time, Rossi HAD to defend so he wouldn't be stuck behind Rahal for the rest of the stint. 

But the suggestions that Rossi petulantly drove Rahal off the road as some kind of payback is just guff. Rossi turned left but his car was a reliant robin by that point. 



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 08:09

Tough crowd - It was his third single seater start, other than perhaps one or two formula ford races over ten years ago. I think he's doing great, considering he has only driven a 1500 KG saloon for the last decade and has so much to adjust to. He run ahead of Power for most of yesterdays race, kept it clean and finished ahead of many experienced runners and beat last weeks winner, as well as a certain fellow rookie and ex-F1 driver.


I really thought he was going to get a Top 10 finish yesterday, which would have been a great result. He has pace but it looks like he tends to lose time/places on restarts/start of stints etc when the tyres are not up to temp and he has admitted that he is not as confident yet as others on cold tyres. But that should come with more time and experience. I think he will definitely get stronger as the season goes on and will be in a great place next year with a whole season under his belt.

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 08:26

I think people are making too much of the collision with Rahal. 

Rossi did put the squeeze on Rahal as he was on the dive which ultimately caused the contact, Rahal HAD to got for it with the hot tyre advantage. But at the same time, Rossi HAD to defend so he wouldn't be stuck behind Rahal for the rest of the stint. 

But the suggestions that Rossi petulantly drove Rahal off the road as some kind of payback is just guff. Rossi turned left but his car was a reliant robin by that point. 

 

Yeah, I don't think he drove Rahal off the road. But I don't think he had to defend, when the corner was lost. It cost him any hope of points. So he has crashed out of two of his last three races, and his crew got the strategy wrong at Barber. The 27 crew are just not as good as they think they are.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 08:43

Yeah, I don't think he drove Rahal off the road. But I don't think he had to defend, when the corner was lost. It cost him any hope of points. So he has crashed out of two of his last three races, and his crew got the strategy wrong at Barber. The 27 crew are just not as good as they think they are.

I think Rahal was too far behind for that move. I believe Rossi thought so as well and that he did not actually defend, he just turned in.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 09:25

I really thought he was going to get a Top 10 finish yesterday, which would have been a great result. He has pace but it looks like he tends to lose time/places on restarts/start of stints etc when the tyres are not up to temp and he has admitted that he is not as confident yet as others on cold tyres. But that should come with more time and experience. I think he will definitely get stronger as the season goes on and will be in a great place next year with a whole season under his belt.

 

Yeah it was correct to be on the blacks for the last stint however he was unlucky with 2 restarts.  So having to restart on the blacks with so little experience worked against him.  But he's keeping his nose clean, picking up points, hasn't been the last qualifying Penske at either race yet...  he's doing a great job for so little open wheel experience.  I think if he can finish the first 6 races around P10-P16 that would do him a world of good to build on...



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#860 jonpollak

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 10:02

Nothin’ more Indycar than the Coke Lot. That’s some deep track trivia there.


I sure wanna tip my hat to the person that came up with that name. It’s absolutely perfect for this Fantasy League.
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Posted 26 April 2021 - 12:45

Yeah, I don't think he drove Rahal off the road. But I don't think he had to defend, when the corner was lost. It cost him any hope of points. So he has crashed out of two of his last three races, and his crew got the strategy wrong at Barber. The 27 crew are just not as good as they think they are.

I would maybe extend that last bit to the whole of AA–after Herta, the next-highest Andretti car was 15th. If Herta is going to fight for a championship he’s going to need his teammates closer than that.

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 12:50

The big question is what happened?  Did all of the engineering talent go walkabout, or were Andretti good in a uniquely low point for Ganassi and Penske?  I don't think the latter is the case, but cannot understand how they suddenly lost the fire overnight.



#863 paulb

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 13:31

Perhaps Ganassi and Penske have gotten more better than Andretti.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 13:34

Perhaps Ganassi and Penske have gotten more better than Andretti.

Perhaps.  I mean, we know they really struggled last year with the aeroshield's arrival.  Seems like this may have continued, but if so, why Colton's squad figured it out but the rest of the team cannot is a bit less easy to explain.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 14:24

Rossi took 4 podiums in the last 5 races of 2020 and would have podiumed/won at the last race as well. He was right up there with Newgarden in the second half.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 16:12

The big question is what happened?  Did all of the engineering talent go walkabout, or were Andretti good in a uniquely low point for Ganassi and Penske?  I don't think the latter is the case, but cannot understand how they suddenly lost the fire overnight.

Twin races at an oval this week.  I'll worry if Andretti is nowhere there, sans Herta, of course.  Two races can be an anomaly, but a quarter of the season is more like a trend.



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Posted 26 April 2021 - 19:50

I’m working out how to afford Dixon for at least one TMS race.
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Posted 26 April 2021 - 23:36

Good progress for Scotty Mac and even Jiimmy - he was closer to the field in quali. 

 

Dalton doesn't count. 



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 06:03

Good progress for Scotty Mac and even Jiimmy - he was closer to the field in quali. 

 

Dalton doesn't count

In some manner, fungibility and all that, he pays for Bourdais.  So that's something . . .    ;)



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 06:42

I don't remember Kellet being terrible in Lights. But he just looks out of his depth in the big show. 

[Looking at his creds- 8 years in the Road to Indy, 0 wins, 1x 2nd, 6x 3rds. Not incompetent, but I could give you handful of names that ought to be in an IndyCar ahead of him.]



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 09:28

Rather Kellett with experience than a 17-year-old with just a single unexceptional season in F4 to his name, which almost happened.

Yes, looking at you, Baltazar Leguizamón.

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 13:05

I don't remember Kellet being terrible in Lights. But he just looks out of his depth in the big show. 

[Looking at his creds- 8 years in the Road to Indy, 0 wins, 1x 2nd, 6x 3rds. Not incompetent, but I could give you handful of names that ought to be in an IndyCar ahead of him.]

In his 4 years in Lights, he managed to place 10th out of 11 full-timers in his rookie season, 12th out of 14 next year, 7th out of 7 next and 7th out of 8 in his final year. A definition of a backmarker.

 

He did take a bunch of 3rd places in the process but pretty much everyone in Lights manages a podium or two over the course of a season so it means nothing really. :|



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 16:17

I don't remember Kellet being terrible in Lights.

This is the one and only thing I remember of Kellett in Indy Lights: https://twitter.com/...023671279038464.



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 16:17

This is the one and only thing I remember of Kellett in Indy Lights: https://twitter.com/...023671279038464.

 

Do you ever have anything positive to say about anyone?



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 16:55

No wonder Herta was such a cool customer, Herta’s victory revealed ‘cool’ advantage by Andretti Autosport | RACER



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 17:28

 

A modern day Keke Rosberg right there.



#877 juicy sushi

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 17:43

Ooh, the jealousy of everyone else is evident on that one.  



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 20:50

 
 
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With a Total Audience Delivery (TAD) of 1.225 million viewers on NBC, Sunday’s Grand Prix of St. Petersburg is now NBC Sports’ most-watched afternoon #INDYCAR race EVER (excluding the Indy 500).


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Posted 27 April 2021 - 21:09

Colton Herta quote regarding this F1 drive snippet  " Oh they are COOL but I'd rather be racing Indycars"

 

Also, a collection of On-Boards for the race start

 

 

 

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 22:10

The race got a glowing write-up from Damien Smith in Motor Sport

Colton Herta is IndyCar's new hero shining in its no-nonsense show



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 22:28

A modern day Keke Rosberg right there.

Nico’s driver in the Heineken commercial?   :rotfl:



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 22:30

And here's the latest episode of Marcus Ericsson's behind the scenes. Nice cameos with chauffer Dario and 13X hanging on in the back seat of a golf cart.

 

 

I swear I'm becoming JP in my old age because I click for Marcus, but stay for Alexandra.



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Posted 27 April 2021 - 22:33

This is the one and only thing I remember of Kellett in Indy Lights: https://twitter.com/...023671279038464.


"If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver" - Dalton Kellet

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 00:57

Those have been a staple of club racers for years.  Those are pretty heavy (15-20 lbs) due to the cooler chest and pump.  I bet the Indycar version is much swankier.



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Posted 28 April 2021 - 05:20

Nico’s driver in the Heineken commercial?   :rotfl:

 

I'm sure you thought there was a good joke in there somewhere, but I can't see it.