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[BRG]

I made an exception this time as it was Tarquini's final hooray and watched the races. 

 

Despite being at Sochi, they were actually quite entertaining for once.  The lack of team tactics helped a lot.  But plenty of track limit abuse and poor driving standards, even allowing for the very wet track. Good to see Huff getting a win, especially after that bizarre retirement in race 1 - as Matt Neal commented 'Cupra must make their suspension out of chocolate'.

 

Strange to see two of the most experienced and skilful drivers make a porridge of it.  At least Tarquini's career finale brainfart was under race conditions.  Muller punting off the leader under SC was extraordinary!

[juicy sushi]

And TCR looks set to bravely blow itself up after remarkable success as the WTCR looks to move to hybrids in future:  https://www.touringc...-hybrid-future/

 

So, we're looking at going from a cheap, sustainable formula being raced all over the world, to expensive modifications of these cheap cars in order to give them a special thing that no one else has.

 

People who manage racing series' never cease to be utter morons.

[BRG]

To be fair, it is likely that all the models eligible for TCR will have become hybrid within the next year or so.  And that is what the manufacturers want to sell to us.  So TCR has little option.  The BTCC is now hybrid from this season, but I believe uses a spec unit to contain costs. BTCC budgets must be far more modest than WTCR so if they can afford it, it is a non-issue surely?  Likewise the WRC is going hybrid in a similar way.

 

What would be an own-goal is if WTCR allows each manufacturer to use their own hybrid system.  that would lead to a cost spiral and major BOP issues.

[Ben1445]

In all honesty I've been impressed by the BTCC's plan for the implementation of hybrid power. 

 

The Cosworth kit is set at a £20,500 lease for a season of racing (including installation, support, training etc.). If you divide that across the season it's £2,050 per weekend. Or about £1025 per race day - a single set of racing tyres should easily set you back by that kind of money. 

 

Using control over system deployment levels to replace success ballast is pretty ingenious too. 

[LucaP]

To be fair, it is likely that all the models eligible for TCR will have become hybrid within the next year or so. And that is what the manufacturers want to sell to us. So TCR has little option. The BTCC is now hybrid from this season, but I believe uses a spec unit to contain costs. BTCC budgets must be far more modest than WTCR so if they can afford it, it is a non-issue surely? Likewise the WRC is going hybrid in a similar way.

What would be an own-goal is if WTCR allows each manufacturer to use their own hybrid system. that would lead to a cost spiral and major BOP issues.

That's exactly what I thought.
However, what happens to national Tcr series?

If you allow hybrids there too, many teams won't be able to compete -some national series are already struggling numbers wise

If you keep national series to recycle the older, non-hybrid cars, you lose the possibility of swapping from the national series to the european or world one with the same car, that has made the class so popular.
A mix, maybe?

Edited by LucaP, 08 January 2022 - 19:52.