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MotoGP 2021 Round 5: SHARK Grand Prix de France (LIVE on ITV4)


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#1 Risil

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Posted 13 May 2021 - 22:14

Bon soir! MotoGP continues its garish traipse around the empty racing circuits of Europe with a weekened stopover at the historic and slightly unpleasant Le Mans Bugatti circuit in the Grand-Ouest of France. The Bugatti circuit, MotoGP’s website informs us, first hosted a Grand Prix in 1969, in which Giacomo Agostini lapped the whole field and presumably some closer racing was had in the other classes. (Would you look at that! There’s some footage on Youtube.) If you’ve seen one of these before you know about the Bugatti circuit: it shares big circuit’s pits and goes on as far as the Dunlop Esses before turning off 180 degrees and doing its own thing, which is a series of short straights and awkward hairpins and S bends before joining up again at the Ford chicane. That’s the Bugatti circuit! With its tight corners and short straights, like Motegi it tends to favour bikes and riders who can get leaned over, turn, stand up and go in as short a time as possible. None of this mid-corner speed malarkey. The best thing about it is that round the back it does indeed look like rural France. Anyway here’s a map:

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Has anything remarkable happened here? On two wheels, and for a period of time less than 24 hours, that is. For some reason my main memory is the late and very much missed Marco Simoncelli absolutely wiping out Dani Pedrosa who had done nothing to deserve it at Chemin aux boeufs (I told you, rural France). Weird stuff tends to happen when it rains: Chris Vermeulen won Suzuki’s first(?) Grand Prix on a four-stroke(?) in a 2007 race also led by Sylvain Guintoli and Randy de Puniet, area man Louis Rossi got his only notable Grand Prix result in 2012 with an FTR Honda (remember all those odd Moto3 bikes?), and last year Danilo Petrucci(!) held off Alex Marquez(!!) get a final, vengeful win for Ducati. This was back in early October when Fabio Quartararo still had a championship lead. Quartararo had a championship lead until halfway through the last Grand Prix in Jerez too, but the demon arm pump cast his evil spell on the Frenchman’s right arm and he tumbled down the order, leaving Jack Miller to score a long-awaited (by those who hadn’t given up waiting, that is) second Grand Prix victory for Ducati. Points-wise his teammate Pecco Bagnaia was the chief beneficiary, but Quartararo has had surgery/an exorcism and comes to his home Grand Prix (not really his home, he’s from Nice) with high expectations. And then there’s the whole rest of the gang. Marc Marquez? Suzuki? Can Aleix Espargaro do anything with the promising-looking Aprilia? I don’t know. We’ll need to watch the race.

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Anyway, you want business! When are the sessions happening? I’ve got it covered. Look down below. These are local times (heures francaise). If you’re in the UK remember to subtract an hour to get the BST version.

 

Friday, 14 May

9am: Moto3 practice 1

9.55: MotoGP practice 1

10.55: Moto2 practice 1

11.50: MotoE practice 1

1.15pm: Moto3 practice 2

2.10: MotoGP practice 2

3.10: Moto2 practice 2

4.50: MotoE practice 2

 

Saturday, 15 May

9am: Moto3 practice 3

9.55: MotoGP practice 3

10.55: Moto2 practice 3

11.50: MotoE practice 1

12.35pm: Moto3 qualifying

1.30: MotoGP practice 4

2.10: MotoGP qualifying

3.10: Moto 2 qualifying

4.10: MotoE qualifying e-pole

 

Sunday, 16 May

8.20am: Moto3 warm-up

8.50: Moto2 warm-up

9.20: MotoGP warm-up

10.05: MotoE race

11: Moto3 race

12.20pm: Moto2 race

2: MotoGP race

 

Great! See you all tomorrow for practice. If you’re in the UK, the most exciting thing of all is that for some unexplained reason Sunday’s action in all three classes is live on freeview’s ITV4 (where the touring cars are). So you have no excuse, except possibly an Indianapolis road course related drinking binge, or indeed any other drinking binge. Anyway. Nobody wants that. Enjoy!



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#2 realracer200

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 02:34

It seems that rain is predicted which could be good for Marquez first because riding in wet conditions is a bit less physically demanding and secondly Honda is usually good in the wet while Yamaha and Suzuki can't use their corner speed advantage so much.



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Posted 14 May 2021 - 06:33

Most recently in my mind is the mass crash from Moto3 a couple of years ago. I believe there was a crash in the first chicane, a rider continued with the bike which was leaking oil and then on the second lap almost everyone was falling.



#4 thegamer23

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 06:37

Rain predicted all weekend long!

Could be one for the wet masters, Miller & Petrucci or even Rossi!

#5 dissident

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 06:43

Most recently in my mind is the mass crash from Moto3 a couple of years ago. I believe there was a crash in the first chicane, a rider continued with the bike which was leaking oil and then on the second lap almost everyone was falling.

That plus Kornfeil's "jump".

 

Really looking forward to this one, I actually like the track and the weather will make it more interesting.



#6 Yamamoto

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:19

Alex Rins will not fall off this weekend race.



#7 DS27

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:39

Apparently Acosta doesn't like riding in the wet (his words), so we may be able to look past him for the win this weekend.

 

Haven't watched FP yet though, so for all I know he could be at the top of the times. 

 

Edit: No, he was only P2 in the wet at a track he has never ridden before   :lol:


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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:49

Miller and Zarco up top in free practice, not a surprise. One of those two for the win, hard to see past them. Miller is probably more of a wet weather specialist but Zarco is always strong at LM. 



#9 Risil

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 10:29

Btw if anyone is interested Shark who are sponsoring the race are the ones who make motorcycle helmets, not the vacuum cleaner people.



#10 dissident

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 10:40

Miller used slicks at the perfect time, we might not see those again.

 

In fact, if the track stays wet for FP2 and FP3 the 4 Yamaha's will go to Q1...



#11 noikeee

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 10:42

Btw if anyone is interested Shark who are sponsoring the race are the ones who make motorcycle helmets, not the vacuum cleaner people.

 

I thought it was the company that made the song for babies.



#12 krapmeister

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 10:49

I thought it was the company that made the song for babies.


Doo Doo doo-doo doo-doo...

#13 thegamer23

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 12:29

A lot of crashes in FP2 so far in Turn 2.

 



#14 Chick0

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 14:04

Looks like the British GP will also be free to air on ITV this season as well.. 

 

https://www.motogp.c...n-the-uk/372275



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Posted 14 May 2021 - 17:20

Oh Zarco don't make me believe you can finally get the win.



#16 Rodaknee

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 17:59

Oh Zarco don't make me believe you can finally get the win.

I hope he sticks it to the works Ducatis.



#17 Risil

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 18:01

Looks like the British GP will also be free to air on ITV this season as well.. 

 

https://www.motogp.c...n-the-uk/372275

It's great news. I wonder what happened behind the scenes for Dorna and BT to agree to this. It's obviously a dilution of BT's rights to show everything live.



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Posted 14 May 2021 - 18:38

It's great news. I wonder what happened behind the scenes for Dorna and BT to agree to this. It's obviously a dilution of BT's rights to show everything live.

BT have sold highlights of MotoGP to practically every UK broadcaster, but for some reason none of them have kept the contract beyond a couple of years.  Often the deals would be made a matter of days before the first GP of the season.  Perhaps ITV played hardball with BT, knowing BT needs the money/viewers



#19 JimmyTheFox

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 07:11

It's great news. I wonder what happened behind the scenes for Dorna and BT to agree to this. It's obviously a dilution of BT's rights to show everything live.


There were rumours last month of ITV buying a stake in BT's sports platform. With this latest development I guess they were true.

Excellent news, I haven't watched a live race since the BBC lost the rights.

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 07:37

https://www.motogp.c...n-rc213v/372878

 

Interesting



#21 Rodaknee

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 09:10

 

 Marc Marquez was back on form at Le Mans as he headed Saturday’s FrenchGP FP3 session with a 1’40.736

 

Can't keep a great rider down!

 

Meanwhile...

 

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 43    Jack MILLER    AUS    Ducati Lenovo Team    Ducati    307.7    1'43.857   

 

#22 Showty

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 10:03

I hope it stays wet for the rest of the weekend, it is nice to see some other drivers up there, and Marc obviously.

Is it Savadori this good on wet conditions?

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 10:17

I simultaneously like and dislike this track, but whenever I see the main straight and the Dunlop S's I get that good feeling in up the Motorsport spine and in the racer heart.

#24 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 10:18

FP3 results

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Moto 3 quali starting soon

#25 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 10:53

Morbido hurt his knee/leg in a bike change practice  :( 

Hopefully he can continue riding this weekend

 



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Posted 15 May 2021 - 10:58

FP3 results

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Moto 3 quali starting soon

 

Savadori  :up:



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Posted 15 May 2021 - 11:18

Migno with the right call

#28 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 11:57

Motogp FP4 now, quali starting soon!

#29 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:05

Heavy rain now

#30 Disgrace

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:28

Brilliant from Savadori. I wonder if he lucked in by dropping his first bike. Could the second bike have a dry setup?



#31 OvDrone

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:28

Savadori's 15 minutes of fame. Well done my anonymous dude.

Dovi who ?

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:28

Aleix played himself by not doing another lap

#33 manmower

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:29

Pretty shocking Q1. :rotfl:



#34 greenman

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:29

Whaaat, sort of like that Q1 group in Indycar yesterday, where Rossi/Dixon et al. dropped out. Savadori and Marini go through to Q2 in front of these guys? Beautiful. 



#35 krapmeister

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:29

Savadori! 😅 👍

#36 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:32

Savadori out of nowhere!
Finally showing speed in the Aprilia.

Marini got a good slipstream with Bagnaia, the championship leader is out of Q2!

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:35

Jesus that crash Miller had a few years ago at T1. So lucky to be able to walk away from that one...

#38 OvDrone

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:36

MotoGP truly is a verb, adjective and outlandish onomatopeia right now.

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:36

Jesus that crash Miller had a few years ago at T1. So lucky to be able to walk away from that one...

I hadn’t seen it before  :eek: Terrifying!

 

edit: hello, Bike people



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#40 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:36

Both Petronas Yamahas on slicks!

Gamble!

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:40

Rossi looking strong

#42 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:40

Eurosport not broadcasting this today sadly :cry:



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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:42

Jack Miller is insane

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#44 thegamer23

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:45

Track will improve till the chequered

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:47

It's /that/ Vinales again this weekend

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:48

Hondas suddenly looking strong

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:48

No please, I can't handle a Honda Top 3.

#48 manmower

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:48

Return of the Maq



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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:49

No please, I can't handle a Honda Top 3.

 

Nowhere near victory though.



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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:49

Marquez in provisional pole!!