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#1 TomNokoe

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Posted 25 August 2021 - 23:21

After its summer intermission, F1 is back in action as we kick off the second half of the season with a Belgium-Netherlands-Italy triple header.

 

A four-week break was barely enough to allow the dust to settle from the controversy of Silverstone and the shock of Budapest, but we're racing once more with rivalries resumed and competition continued.

 

Where better to turn up the tension in the title race than gloomy, gritty Spa? It's Round 12 of the 2021 FIA Formula One World Championship.

 

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Prophecies for Part Two

Mercedes and Hamilton begin the second half of the season in their default position atop both championships. Will we see a repeat of 2017 and 2018, where things click into gear and they speed away without a trace, or a tooth-and-nail fight to the bitter end? It remains to be seen if the assumed introduction of PU3 will continue to edge them away in the power stakes, and if the Silverstone upgrades and refined low-downforce package will find their sweet spot at this compromise circuit. Hamilton will be aiming to cut out the scruffy errors that have stymied his usual consistency. Bottas will be aiming to make it through turn 1 without shedding any bodywork.

 

Red Bull's forecast looks cloudy at best. The spectre of engine penalties hanging above them, and a creeping loss of form that must be addressed. Setup grumbles from Budapest are likely to resolve themselves naturally at a circuit famed for its efficiency, but cool temperatures will throw a spanner into the mix in unlocking the tyres. It's the perfect time to counterattack Mercedes before Max's Zandvoort homecoming, and no doubt the oranje army will make this weekend feel more like a dress rehearsal. Verstappen should pick off from where he left off before the break - relentless, whilst Checo should relent from the silly errors and mystifying lack of pace that is starting to appear more than you'd expect.

 

McLaren's once-comfortable constructors' cushion had been reduced to nil as they enter part two of 2021 honours even with Ferrari. On paper, Spa's power sensitivity should provide an opportunity to re-establish their WCC lead, but that depends on many factors, not least the weather, and crucially the performance of their second driver. Is it possible for Lando to maintain the incredibly high levels he's reached so far this year, or will the break have broken his rhythm? Ricciardo's limitations will likely be masked by the track layout, but don't forget his stunning drive to P4 last year. A great chance to start completely afresh.

 

Ferrari's French thrashing and Silverstone surprise provided more questions than answers in their yo-yo season. Questions that very well might be answered this weekend at another high-speed, front-limited circuit. Dark horses again, really? Engine dilemmas loom large here, too, and Monza is just around the corner. Arguably the best driver line-up on the grid can have few complaints after an encouraging opening half. Leclerc will be ready to pounce for an elusive third victory, with Sainz nipping at his heels. Stealing P3 from McLaren in the WCC would be a welcome fillip after last year's ignominy.

 

The battle for P5 in the constructors' was turned upside-down in Budapest, and it was Alpine who emerged the strongest after their shock win. It's possible the break may have halted the instant momentum gained, but nonetheless, a season that was slowly slipping away has burst into life. The team has already earmarked this weekend as a potential struggle, but this is juxtaposed by Alonso's continued improvement and fighting spirit, and the first-win bounce that Ocon is bound to enjoy. An optimistic second half beckons.

 

The second force in the battle is Alpha Tauri, the only team to score points in every race so far. However, this statistic will provide little respite considering the string of missed opportunities that have come and gone. Gasly's superb comeback drive last year and daring overtake on Perez into Eau Rouge should provide the necessary spark to attack the second half of 2021 with the speed and execution of a team much faster than their position suggests. Tsunoda took his first F3 podium and his first F2 feature race win at this track, as he looks to score points for three consecutive races.

 

Aston Martin enters the second half of the year on the back foot after Vettel's stirring Hungary drive was snatched away from them at the last. P7 in the constructors' and facing an uphill battle. Difficult to predict form in such a tight midfield battle. There's a lot of pressure on both drivers to start delivering every weekend and to cut out the mistakes that always seem to befall at least one side of the garage.

 

Williams haven't found themselves this high up in a weekend preview for a long time. If George Russell's expected departure closed one door, it somehow opened a window with a superb double-points finish that has all but secured P8 in the WCC. Spa should see a return to the Q3-threatening pace that suddenly appeared at power-sensitive tracks, and it's worth noting this will be the first time in two years they can run a bespoke Spa/Monza wing, after Nissany's successful test from Austria FP1. I have an eye on Latifi to see if he can finally start to challenge George before he takes the step upstairs.

 

The idea that Alfa Romeo could somehow finish 2021 worse than 2020 is a difficult thought to fathom, but that is what they are faced with at the halfway point. A reasonable enough package that is never fulfilled at the right time. Will this be Kimi's last assault at Spa before he relinquishes his crown? He always, always goes well here. Conversely, Giovinazzi has crashed twice in two years and will be hoping to start the second half of this year in a better fashion.

 

Haas' strategy of mild improvement as the season wears on hasn't quite materialised, as more mistakes and issues have crept in despite the rookie line-up's growing experience. Points look a million miles away, but there is still plenty to improve upon in the final dozen or so races, not least cutting out the needless crashes. Mick races at Spa 30 years on from his father's debut.

 

Weather, Tyres

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Fri - Wet, 14c,

Sat - Wet, 16c

Sun - Wet, 15c

 

The last all-wet weekend I can remember is USA 2015, but they did run slicks in the race, so I don't know if it counts. Before that... Monza 2008?

 

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Very optimistic from Pirelli to forego the intermediate and full-wet graphic.

 

Schedule

       BST (UK)  |   CEST (Most of Europe)
FP1    1030          1130
FP2    1400          1500
FP3    1100          1200
Q      1400          1500
R      1400          1500

Same as always. Time zone conversion here.

 

Formula 3, Porsche Supercup and W Series supporting. Full schedule.

 

This weekend marks the 50th F1 start for Norris, Russell, and the RB-Honda relationship, and the 200th F1 start for Ricciardo, and probably some other assorted milestones, too.

 

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Saying "F1 IS BACK" is a bit naff considering it was less than a month ... but here we are again. Thoughts, predictions and weather pessimism welcome below :stoned:

 


Edited by TomNokoe, 25 August 2021 - 23:27.


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#2 HeadFirst

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Posted 25 August 2021 - 23:49

Very comprehensive intro, thanks Tom. You even offered me a short distraction from La Vuelta.



#3 Pingu Pi

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Posted 25 August 2021 - 23:55

What a brilliant post and narrative summary! Thanks Tom.

We'll begrudge a wet weekend not clearing up the Merc Vs RbR pace arguments, but my word could this be entertaining throughout.

It's bloody good to have the F1 back!

#4 Izzyeviel

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 00:38

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#5 aray

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 02:28

A wet race in Spa is the best F1 can offer.

#6 sportyskells

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 05:28

As long as it not too much rain ( Plus cars got to get to zand voort after the race ends) and we already know spa had enough rain this year so I think cue the anti rain dance for me

#7 ARTGP

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 05:41

Intermittent rain is much better. Preferably a wet start. Dry middle of the race, and a deluge in the final lap.


Edited by ARTGP, 26 August 2021 - 05:41.


#8 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 06:29

Any amount of rain is fine for me. As long as it's not zero.



#9 kumo7

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 06:51

rain around Puhon and dry at La Source would be excting. Guys in the runoff will not be back to the pit,... classic



#10 DogEarred

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 06:55

One of the few races where I want to watch every minute of practice & racing.

 

Whether it's exciting or not...



#11 jpm2019

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 07:46

Can't wait. So much to look forward to. Just hope there will be no Mercs torpedoing Red Bulls. Otherwise the Hamilton Championship will be one with a very large shadow over it. 



#12 cheekybru

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:18

Great OP!

F1 IS BACK!! 😚

#13 Goron3

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:24

God the forecast looks horrible. Very low temperatures, overcast and light rain all weekend. Sounds like a British summer at the beach.



#14 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:25

As an F1 fan you just have to try and visit Spa at least once in your life. I’ll never forget the first time walking down from Francorchamps towards La Source, with the huge incline of Raidillon (bleurgh, I hate calling it that even though it’s factually correct) in the distance. It was quite funny when I got there, as it was boiling hot and blue sky...within literally 5-10 mins it was absolutely pouring down. It was the proper Spa experience as soon as I got to the circuit!



#15 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:28

Wet race, either Hamilton or Max for the win.



#16 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:31

Wet race, either Hamilton or Max for the win.

Dry race, either Hamilton or Max for the win.



#17 jjcale

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:31

24 hours to go to the start of FP1 :clap:

 

... yes .... this season has been that good. 

 

Cant wait...



#18 jjcale

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:33

Wet race, either Hamilton or Max for the win.

 

 

Dry race, either Hamilton or Max for the win.

 

Bit of a shame that they are both such supreme talents that there is probably 0% chance of anyone else winning in the wet.

 

For fun .... what was the last wet race won by anyone else?



#19 sheSgoTthElooK

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:39

How can it be any better? :smoking:

 

F1 comes back and welcomes us to Spa-Francorchamps   :D

 

I hope Kimi can get finally some well-deserved points here. Weather conditions promise a tumultuous race. 

 

 



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:41

Bit of a shame that they are both such supreme talents that there is probably 0% chance of anyone else winning in the wet.

 

For fun .... what was the last wet race won by anyone else?

 

Ocon won in Hungary. Can't remember the year though...



#21 JimmyClark

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 08:53

As an F1 fan you just have to try and visit Spa at least once in your life. I’ll never forget the first time walking down from Francorchamps towards La Source, with the huge incline of Raidillon (bleurgh, I hate calling it that even though it’s factually correct) in the distance. It was quite funny when I got there, as it was boiling hot and blue sky...within literally 5-10 mins it was absolutely pouring down. It was the proper Spa experience as soon as I got to the circuit!


Hah I got horrifically sunburned my first time there, and didn't see a drop of rain all weekend.

BTW I think you can get round the naming issue by calling it the "Eau Rouge complex" or "Eau Rouge sequence" ;)

#22 P123

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:17

Ocon won in Hungary. Can't remember the year though...

Although there was no actual racing in the wet, apart from the sprint to T1.  ;)



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:23

Bit of a shame that they are both such supreme talents that there is probably 0% chance of anyone else winning in the wet.

For fun .... what was the last wet race won by anyone else?


Well the name has to be Button, Vettel, or Alonso. Couldn't tell you what race though. I know it’s wrong but Canada ‘11 for Button is my last real memory. Shameful lol.

#24 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:30

Race organisers allowing any fans?



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:39

Race organisers allowing any fans?

75,000 per day



#26 jjcale

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:44

Bit of a shame that they are both such supreme talents that there is probably 0% chance of anyone else winning in the wet.

 

For fun .... what was the last wet race won by anyone else?

 

 

Ocon won in Hungary. Can't remember the year though...

 

 

Although there was no actual racing in the wet, apart from the sprint to T1.  ;)

 

 

Well the name has to be Button, Vettel, or Alonso. Couldn't tell you what race though. I know it’s wrong but Canada ‘11 for Button is my last real memory. Shameful lol.

 

Is this an actual F1 forum? ... does no one know the actual answer of the top of the head?



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:48

I wonder how many Dutch fans will be there with Zandvoort being the week after. They’ve been crazy at Spa for the last 5 or 6 years...



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:49

Is this an actual F1 forum? ... does no one know the actual answer of the top of the head?

Technically no it is not.  :p



#29 Goron3

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:52

I'm really just hoping for a wet start.

 

Also, if it's wet on Saturday I expect Bottas to end up starting the race outside the top 10 (with his penalty). He crashed into Ocon twice on the first lap of Turkey last year, crashed with Russell at Imola and caused mayhem in Hungary. If it's wet on Sunday I expect fireworks.



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:58

I'm really just hoping for a wet start.

 

Also, if it's wet on Saturday I expect Bottas to end up starting the race outside the top 10 (with his penalty). He crashed into Ocon twice on the first lap of Turkey last year, crashed with Russell at Imola and caused mayhem in Hungary. If it's wet on Sunday I expect fireworks.

 

Max might just take his engine penalty to ensure he's behind Bottas... :p 



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:59

Is this an actual F1 forum? ... does no one know the actual answer of the top of the head?

 

Recent non Verstappen/Hamilton wet wins:

 

2014 Hungarian GP - Ricciardo

2013 Malaysian GP - Vettel

2012 Brazilian GP - Button

2012 Malaysian GP - Alonso

2011 Hungarian GP - Button

2011 British GP - Alonso

2011 Canadian GP - Button



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 10:20

Intermittent rain is much better. Preferably a wet start. Dry middle of the race, and a deluge in the final lap.


Changeable conditions, not a wet race from start to finish, has always been the hidden secret for the best races. It’s all on the judgement calls on when to switch between dry, intermediate and wet tyres, and the more these options are thrown in, the greater the unpredictability.

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 10:22

Max might just take his engine penalty to ensure he's behind Bottas... :p


Norris, Perez, and Verstappen all started behind Bottas in Hungary. Lol.

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 10:29

A friend of mine used to work for the MET office here in the U.K and he's adamant that the best website to check the weather on is windy.com. For the region of Stavelot by the circuit, it's predicting light to medium intensity rain across the whole weekend, and not just the odd burst but consistently from tomorrow noon.

 

Man, this is excited. Although I suspect FP1 and 2 might see too much running at this rate.



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 10:37

I dont like rain at the start. It usually means a crash will sure happen. I find races where its starting to rain at one point in the race much more interesting.



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 10:54

Hah I got horrifically sunburned my first time there, and didn't see a drop of rain all weekend.

BTW I think you can get round the naming issue by calling it the "Eau Rouge complex" or "Eau Rouge sequence" ;)


Nah, just call it Raidillon, like all the locals.

You very rarely hear the speaker of the track calling it Eau Rouge

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:06

I wonder how many Dutch fans will be there with Zandvoort being the week after. They’ve been crazy at Spa for the last 5 or 6 years...

They will be leaving it to the Belgian fans so that they can cheer on their two Belgian drivers, Norris and Verstappen.



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:16

Nah, just call it Raidillon, like all the locals.

You very rarely hear the speaker of the track calling it Eau Rouge

Or just call it Eau Rouge, because nobody is going to get confused when you use the commonly used name, even if it’s only technically correct for the bit at the very bottom.

This “it’s Raidillon actually” stuff seems to have only begun a few years ago, and it’s extremely annoying. But I guess it’s a factor of having a sequence of 3 corners with only two names. Lots of people get the Maggots, Becketts, Chapel delineation wrong too.

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:23

I guess I'll have to wait for a summary on youtube; I wonder who will win the bowling game at turn 1 this time? 



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:25

In terms of full wet weekends, USA 15 is a good shout. It was actually completely dry for FP2 at Monza 08 but was fully wet in every other session. I remember Belgium 2010 it did rain in every single session of the weekend, albeit they did run on slicks in most of the sessions too. Apart from that I can't think of any other recent races where every session has been rain affected. Would certainly be problematic for tyres if it does happen this weekend! Might mean a rather quiet Friday

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:28

Track limits this weekend include Turn 4 (at the top of Eau Rouge), turn 9 (no name) and turn 19 (final corner). In all cases it's the kerb, not the white line. Huzzah.



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:29

This “it’s Raidillon actually” stuff seems to have only begun a few years ago, and it’s extremely annoying. But I guess it’s a factor of having a sequence of 3 corners with only two names. Lots of people get the Maggots, Becketts, Chapel delineation wrong too.

Even in the 1980s, the French-speaking media I read (Auto hebdoSport AutoL'automobile) called it 'le Raidillon'. 

 

 

This is from 2013: https://www.dhnet.be...5707ef67ad713c3



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:33

What is this Belgian GP you speak of? Do you mean the Begian GP?



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:34

I dont like rain at the start. It usually means a crash will sure happen. I find races where its starting to rain at one point in the race much more interesting.

 

That's a bit greedy though. I say; be grateful for all the rain that you get!



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:42

Track limits this weekend include Turn 4 (at the top of Eau Rouge), turn 9 (no name) and turn 19 (final corner). In all cases it's the kerb, not the white line. Huzzah.

 

Does anybody know why a name was never given to that corner? There are plenty of options there. I would have suggested a naming ceremony this weekend calling it "Schumacher" in honour of his many siginificant landmarks at Spa.  



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:44

Does anybody know why a name was never given to that corner? There are plenty of options there. I would have suggested a naming ceremony this weekend calling it "Schumacher" in honour of his many siginificant landmarks at Spa.


And he stuffed it in the barriers there in practice in 1996, and was the last corner he drove on 4 wheels in 1998.

Does it have a name in the alternative naming scheme where all the corners are named after cities?

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 11:53

A friend of mine used to work for the MET office here in the U.K and he's adamant that the best website to check the weather on is windy.com. For the region of Stavelot by the circuit, it's predicting light to medium intensity rain across the whole weekend, and not just the odd burst but consistently from tomorrow noon.

 

Man, this is excited. Although I suspect FP1 and 2 might see too much running at this rate.

If rain is forecast all weekend then the teams would be silly not to get all the wet running available to them.
 



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Posted 26 August 2021 - 12:16

If rain is forecast all weekend then the teams would be silly not to get all the wet running available to them.

Unlike the dry tire, there are not that many sets of the wet tire available. Only 3 sets of the wet tire.

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 12:19

Or just call it Eau Rouge, because nobody is going to get confused when you use the commonly used name, even if it’s only technically correct for the bit at the very bottom.

This “it’s Raidillon actually” stuff seems to have only begun a few years ago, and it’s extremely annoying. But I guess it’s a factor of having a sequence of 3 corners with only two names. Lots of people get the Maggots, Becketts, Chapel delineation wrong too.


No, it's a problem of locals Vs others.

Well, not really a problem as long as everyone understands each other.

It's only recently, well 15 to 20 years ago that I learnt some people call it Eau Rouge.

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 12:24

If rain is forecast all weekend then the teams would be silly not to get all the wet running available to them.
 

They have a limited number of wet and intermediate tires to their disposal so therefore cannot afford to run all weekend long.