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#1 marcainley

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 14:52

Discuss.

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#2 TheMessiah

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 14:55

Masi needs to be removed.

 

I have held this opinion for a while, today has further reinforced it.



#3 Burtros

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 14:55

Autosport forum pantomime villain.

Doing a tough job.

#4 registered

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 14:58

Well he did follow the rules, what else should he do?

#5 jpm2019

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 14:58

Amateur. Has no clue at all. This is the biggest stage of autosport in the world and Masi is not fit for the job.



#6 GTR

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 14:59

 I have a genuine question, who wrote the rules? Did Charlie & Michael have a say in those?



#7 SparkPlug86

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:00

Difficult job... everyone looks to you to know everything. It's a thankless task and he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't... I think he's doing a decent job.



#8 krapmeister

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:03

Pretty much everything people will say about Masi in here, people said about Charlie when he was in charge.



#9 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:03

It doesn't even matter if he makes right or wrong decisions, what matters is that he looks indecisive and totally out of his element.  That's unforgivable in a leadership role.  I hope he has a family he wants to spend more time with.



#10 danmills

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:06

He got shoehorned in as an emergency at an unanticipated time, but unfortunately the shoes never did and are unlikely to fit.

 

Luck has it hes still in the role but hes been there long enough and flustered through so many incomprehensible decisions and moments in such a short time that hes proven to be as bad as Whiting was at his worst.

 

I'm sure he's a nice bloke, but being as clear as mud isn't a requirement for this job.

 

Off with his head! 



#11 danmills

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:07

 I have a genuine question, who wrote the rules? Did Charlie & Michael have a say in those?

 

If he did, he should know them crystal clear.

 

If he didn't, his one job was to learn them.

 

Either way by not knowing is not good enough. 



#12 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:08

If any good comes from this farce it's the end of Masi. He's been in way over his head since the very start.



#13 Montie

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:08

Not a fan of his

#14 Baddoer

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:08

It all has been fun and games, but then chips are down you have to make a decision.

I say: enough is enough.



#15 danmills

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:08

Just remember and remind yourselves of Australia 2020... 



#16 jpm2019

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:10

So Masi doesnt inform teams pro active? But only shares crucial info when asked?

No clue, no plan, must go.

#17 krapmeister

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:12

Just remember and remind yourselves of Australia 2020... 

 

Don't think that was Masi's call...



#18 TomNokoe

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:12

He's not the only one

#19 TennisUK

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:13

The FIA do appear to be making this up as the go along.

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#20 ensign14

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:15

Well he did follow the rules, what else should he do?

The problem is the selective interpretation.  E.g. they only find the force majeure thing 2 hours late. 



#21 FLB

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:15

He's not the only one

It's not a people problem, it's a process problem.

 

One perhaps created by the organizational culture of the FIA. Its very nature.



#22 jwill189

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:16

I hate threads started with the word "discuss" without contributing anything.

 

People are going to scapegoat anyone if something doesn't go as planned. Blame the atrocious rules riddled with ambiguity.



#23 jpm2019

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:16

When is a red flag not a force majeur?

#24 FLB

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:16

The problem is the selective interpretation.  E.g. they only find the force majeure thing 2 hours late. 

Yup. It's like there's no jurisprudence. No case law.



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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:17

When is a red flag not a force majeur?

My thoughts exactly. 



#26 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:24

Whiting was just as bad.



#27 Jordan44

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:27

Masi’s radio calls should be enough to see why he’s not fit for the role.

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:27

Mistakes are being made every ten minutes here. The race start should never have been suspended. The pace car running was fine. Do the distance to the point where full points are awarded ( I think it's half distance but I may be wrong) then even without a racing lap the result stands. If a car fails, has a knock or whatever then so be it. But all should be safe behind the pace car.

#29 Silverstone96

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:28

Masi’s radio calls should be enough to see why he’s not fit for the role.


Yes because the few radio clips we get on tv tell everything about the job don’t they...sigh.

Plenty of tinfoil hats round here.

#30 azza200

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:29

should go back to football  :rotfl:



#31 BRK

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:29

It's not just him. It's a combination of factors, including the late race start time.



#32 Borko

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:30

Masi stopped (red-flagged) 8 out of the last 20 races. Incredible

#33 P123

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:30

He doesn't control the weather.

 

We'd complain regardless of who was in charge, as people also did with Whiting.  Some criticisms are fair but it does got a bit OTT at times.



#34 ensign14

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:31

Mistakes are being made every ten minutes here. The race start should never have been suspended. The pace car running was fine. Do the distance to the point where full points are awarded ( I think it's half distance but I may be wrong) then even without a racing lap the result stands. If a car fails, has a knock or whatever then so be it. But all should be safe behind the pace car.

That would be worse by a factor of about ten trillion.  You would be awarding full points for a traffic queue.  Any racing would literally be illegal.



#35 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:32

He and his whole crew have been pretty useless overall.

An unenviable job, however.

#36 Jordan44

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:38

Yes because the few radio clips we get on tv tell everything about the job don’t they...sigh.
Plenty of tinfoil hats round here.

“Michael it’s Ron.. as the FIA race director you’re meant to understand the rules so you can apply them, riiight?”
“Uhhh yeah, I think so. Let me check that”

Edited by Jordan44, 29 August 2021 - 15:38.


#37 RottenAli

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:44

In my book the "race" should have finished by now ----- Martin Brundle just now said it ---- just Cary on behind the safety car....

#38 Fastcake

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:48

I do get the impression that Michael Masi commands a little less respect in the paddock than Charlie Whiting.

It’s a tough job and fan opinion of his role should count for very little, particularly when it’s often flavoured by how his decisions effect your favourite drivers. But I do think today has been a mountain of confusing statements and vacillation instead of leadership.

#39 SilverArrow31

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:52

I do get the impression that Michael Masi commands a little less respect in the paddock than Charlie Whiting.

It’s a tough job and fan opinion of his role should count for very little, particularly when it’s often flavoured by how his decisions effect your favourite drivers. But I do think today has been a mountain of confusing statements and vacillation instead of leadership.

But we never heard the teams and Charlie talking, we have nothing to compare, Masi may look weak just because we can now hear the conversations that have happened for decades.

Edited by SilverArrow31, 29 August 2021 - 15:52.


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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:54

In my book the "race" should have finished by now ----- Martin Brundle just now said it ---- just Cary on behind the safety car....

That could have made a decent movie, Carry On Behind The Safety Car...

 

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#41 RottenAli

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 15:58

What we have here is a developing fiasco. Why is Maylander still sat at the end of the pit lane, and only AVdM doing laps. MM should have two drivers giving him info.

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:01

Discuss.

Not much too discuss.

 

He's absolutely clueless, and woefully out of his depth in far shallower puddles than we're seeing this afternoon.



#43 sheSgoTthElooK

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:03

He needs to be fired, that’s an indecisive mess. It’s neither entertaining for us watching it on TV nor the crowd sitting in the rain who need to drive back to their homes.



#44 flyboym3

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:07

I think we could do with a race director who knows the rule book like the back of hands, some bedtime reading needed me thinks.

#45 RottenAli

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:09

Come - on. let's do it.....

#46 RottenAli

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:27

Far too cautious. Should have carried on behind the safety car. Still well done George - second place.

#47 jpm2019

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:30

He is making this mess worse with every decision. Even for f1 standards this is crazy

#48 ensign14

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:33

I wonder if Autosport will host a poll whether Masi should stay.  Or do they want their media passes?



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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:33

This kinda of stuff is mockery for the whole sport. If can't run the race, just called the whole thing off. If they award points for this it will be farce and really put me off the sport.

How could they not run this earlier instead of smaller classes?

Complete amateurhour and really, really, really bad look for whole sport. Hope the spectators get full refund. Otherwise I think for many this might be last f1 race live ever.

#50 RottenAli

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 16:33

I've only followed F1 since 1975, so I'm no expert but MIchael Masi needs to be replaced - sorry MM, but that was C R A P.