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[Atreiu]

Left handed circuit, home turf, inching closer to full fitness; what do you guys expect from MM?

 

I just hope he doesn't bump people off again (and maintain he should have received a slap on the wrist and 3 place grid penalty).

 

As a side note, I hope Martin has a clean weekend. I'm very interested in seeing whether he can develop into Ducati's fastest and most threatening rider until the end of the season.

 

I would also like it to be a weekend with both Suzukis on the very sharp end

[Disgrace]

And indeed, which Vinales will show up?

[Atreiu]

Already? I thought his debut would only happen at Misano.

 

In that case I hope he has a good weekend, it'd be nice to see them mix it up.

[thegamer23]

Looking forward to see what Vinales can do in the Aprilia!

Alex Marquez is my pick for the surprise of the weekend.
He did great there last year

[Ellios]

If Marquez doesn't suffer too much with his injury then he'll walk this race, he's always gone well here 6 wins, (5 in MotoGP) a fit Marquez no one can touch him. 

[messy]

Marc has the speed to win, he showed that again in the dry in Austria. But he has to stop making the stupid blunders - obviously the title is long gone in 2021 so he just needs to calm it down and start building for 2022. I’m convinced his problem is ‘up there’ rather than purely physical, he’s struggling to adapt his mindset and trying to do things he used to get away with. He really should win this weekend.

I’d expect, sadly, Pol Espargaro to be back to his customary 16th place with the rise in temperature, but Alex Marquez is a good shout for a solid result. He needs one. I’d expect Vinales to be fairly quick from the getgo, maybe in qualifying more than in the race. Will be interesting to see what happens there.

Edited by messy, 06 September 2021 - 21:32.

[HP]

If MM has a clean weekend, he is a strong contender for the win.

[Pete_f1]

Hum, Aragon, not sure if MM93 will win this one.

I'm putting my money on a Ducati..

[ArrowsLivery]

Hum, Aragon, not sure if MM93 will win this one.

I'm putting my money on a Ducati..

It’ll probably be another boring Yamaha win. Quartaroro reminds me of 2010-2013 Vettel.

[Risil]

Jorge Lorenzo used to win races that way too!

[OvDrone]

And indeed, which Vinales will show up?

How many other Vinales are there ?

[Frank Tuesday]

Yes, "Win it or bin it" is the MM93 that will show up. He's not in the championship battle, so why settle?

[BRK]

Looking forward, like many others, to seeing Vinales back in action. Expecting something clinical from Fabio, another champ's ride.  

[dissident]

That monster back straight is usually not very kind to Yamaha, but they even won at Mugello this year, so...

 

By the way, isn't Aprilia supposed to bring an updated engine to Aragon?

[Disgrace]

That monster back straight is usually not very kind to Yamaha, but they even won at Mugello this year, so...

 

By the way, isn't Aprilia supposed to bring an updated engine to Aragon?

 

Probably for the best. 

[F1matt]

Looking forward, like many others, to seeing Vinales back in action. Expecting something clinical from Fabio, another champ's ride.  

 

 

Fabio is so consistent, he has learned so much from last year and now looks like a champion. 

[Zoe]

Don't jinx it! 

[Atreiu]

Yes, "Win it or bin it" is the MM93 that will show up. He's not in the championship battle, so why settle?

 

To avoid injury and actually show the grid he remains competitive and has more than one tool in his tool box.

[Dratini]

Genuine question as I have fallen away from MotoGP in the last few years. When Marquez gets back to full fitness will he be back to dominating, or are one of the new young guns who have soared to the front in recent times capable of challenging him?

[Frank Tuesday]

To avoid injury and actually show the grid he remains competitive and has more than one tool in his tool box.

That's why other people would settle, but why would MM start doing that this weekend when he's shown little interest in doing it in the past.

[Chubby_Deuce]

Genuine question as I have fallen away from MotoGP in the last few years. When Marquez gets back to full fitness will he be back to dominating, or are one of the new young guns who have soared to the front in recent times capable of challenging him?

 

I think it's fair to assume that we've seen peak Marquez. He's now 28 and injured, only one rider over the age of 30 has won a championship in the MotoGP era and the line of insane talent waiting to get in is only growing.

[ArrowsLivery]

Genuine question as I have fallen away from MotoGP in the last few years. When Marquez gets back to full fitness will he be back to dominating, or are one of the new young guns who have soared to the front in recent times capable of challenging him?

I don’t think anybody knows. I think most people are hoping that the new generation will be able to put up a fight to Marquez, but nobody knows if he’ll ever be back to his best.

[Atreiu]

Genuine question as I have fallen away from MotoGP in the last few years. When Marquez gets back to full fitness will he be back to dominating, or are one of the new young guns who have soared to the front in recent times capable of challenging him?

 

We don't know if he'll actually get back to full fitness, but the odds of him just dominating again are next to none, IMO.

 

edit: I actualy think he is rattled by his slow recovery, the possibility he might never be 100% again and the realization the grid didn't wait for him while he was off.

Edited by Atreiu, 09 September 2021 - 20:47.

[Yamamoto]

He might not get back to his vintage best. I would still back him one-on-one from next year against anyone else on the grid on equal bikes. I have a rule with Marc Marquez - he's favourite until it's proven otherwise. Fabio might be his toughest test yet, but this year is not conclusive,

[MattK9]

Anti clockwise circuit so it should suit Marquez well

[Pete_f1]

Cal Crutchlow! Welcome back!

[ForzaFormula]

Cal Crutchlow! Welcome back!

 

He is far past his best, but still looks to have the speed if he can find it.

[Pete_f1]

Jesus, Moto 3 qualifying is a madhouse!

[krapmeister]

Vinales currently last in FP4

[Disgrace]

Vinales out-qualifies Rossi and Rins, ouch.

[krapmeister]

Rossi not really a massive surprise but that was a shocker for Rins, especially as Mir is looking quite competitive

Edited by krapmeister, 11 September 2021 - 12:35.

[krapmeister]

Bastianini is looking pretty quick on that older Ducati

[krapmeister]

Factory Ducati 1-2 👍

[Disgrace]

Ice cool from Gardner, P14 with a minute to go and pulls out a row front on his last lap.

[Atreiu]

I have no idea of what'll happen. That being said, Marquez seems fast but not clearly fastest, which is exactly the scenario I want to see play out. I'm very curious to see how he'll balance his aggressiveness with a very tight field and a win not a sure scenario.

[Westcoustskt]

Marc Marquez body language says he doesn't want to be there.

[dissident]

Marc Marquez body language says he doesn't want to be there.

 

Marquez needs to win, he doesn't have fun unless he's winning. He has always looked scruffy when on the backfoot, this year is just a more extreme version of that due to the injury and Honda not being competitive.

 

Special lap from Pecco, let's see if he finally breaks his duck tomorrow. 

[dissident]

Rossi not really a massive surprise but that was a shocker for Rins, especially as Mir is looking quite competitive

 

And Dixon 2 and 3 tenths behind them respectively on the 2019 bike... 

Edited by dissident, 11 September 2021 - 20:46.

[Kulturen]

We don't know if he'll actually get back to full fitness, but the odds of him just dominating again are next to none, IMO.

 

edit: I actualy think he is rattled by his slow recovery, the possibility he might never be 100% again and the realization the grid didn't wait for him while he was off.

 

Holy hell dude that's the most overdramatic thing ever

 

Marquez doesn't even need to be at 100% to dominate. And if he might have been frustrated he's not further along but his progress has been steady. He can ride normally now, just still building strength in the right shoulder and can't do a full race at 100% push.

 

And what's holding Marquez back is the bike not his body. I'm sorry to tell you guys but if Honda fixes the bike next year, which doesn't even mean be the best on the grid, and Michelin provide decent tyres, Marc dominating and winning the title easily is exactly what's going to happen.

[realracer200]

https://www.motorspo...i-pole/6665338/

 

Kind of weird Bagnaia needs to study the data of rookie Martin, should really be other way around, no?

[ForzaFormula]

Holy hell dude that's the most overdramatic thing ever

 

Marquez doesn't even need to be at 100% to dominate. And if he might have been frustrated he's not further along but his progress has been steady. He can ride normally now, just still building strength in the right shoulder and can't do a full race at 100% push.

 

And what's holding Marquez back is the bike not his body. I'm sorry to tell you guys but if Honda fixes the bike next year, which doesn't even mean be the best on the grid, and Michelin provide decent tyres, Marc dominating and winning the title easily is exactly what's going to happen.

 

Not if he keeps crashing and get's injured again, he needs to start staying on the bike, but Honda need to fix their bike so it's ridable on the limit without it's riders crashing and getting almost career ending injuries. 

Edited by ForzaFormula, 11 September 2021 - 22:31.

[HP]

Not if he keeps crashing and get's injured again, he needs to start staying on the bike, but Honda need to fix their bike so it's ridable on the limit without it's riders crashing and getting almost career ending injuries. 

At this stage Marquez might want to look out for a different ride that is better than the Honda. However even then I'm half expecting him to continue crashing. He doesn't know better than riding on the absolute limit.

[Disgrace]

Well, well. A big blunder from Acosta - nil points.

[Jellyfishcake]

Sergio Garcia down as well!

[Disgrace]

Sergio Garcia down as well!

 

Another season in Moto3 isn't looking like such a bad idea.

[realracer200]

Big mistake by Sergio Garcia, he really needed those points to close the gap in the championship a little bit.

[krapmeister]

Raul Fernandez on another level today broken hand and all - Gardner will be happy to bank the points for 2nd place thanks to Lowes dropping it...

[Disgrace]

Raul Fernandez on another level today broken hand and all - Gardner will be happy to bank the points for 2nd place thanks to Lowes dropping it...

 

You won't like this, but I can't help but feel that Raul has that special X-factor that Gardner perhaps lacks, despite who leads the championship. He could be formidable in MotoGP.

[krapmeister]

You won't like this, but I can't help but feel that Raul has that special X-factor that Gardner perhaps lacks, despite who leads the championship. He could be formidable in MotoGP.

Well if you come in and challenge for the championship in your rookie season you certainly get people's attention, he's definitely got people excited. Undoubtedly massively talented and may well prove to be a star on the big bikes. Will be fascinating to see how both he and Remy go next year.

2nd place for Gardner on a day when he didn't really have the pace is still not a bad result. Could've done what Lowes and many others did.

[messy]

I agree, I think Gardner is having a great year, but Raul Fernandez is the guy to keep your eye on. He’s got it all. Hopefully he embraces the Tech3 opportunity instead of huffing at not being able to sign with a team that’s not even really going to exist next season.