225 replies to this topic

[Risil]

Quartararo wouldn't be advised to fight Marc that hard until the championship is secure, but the off-season will feel very awkward for Yamaha if Marc closes out the year with three from three. But I'm getting ahead of myself!

[AustinF1]

May this be the last MotoGP race at COTA.

Glad everyone made it through the weekend in one piece. 

[AustinF1]

MM is an alien. So amazing.

[RPM40]

Marc is regularly starting to fight at the very front again. He'll have a further.6 months of recovery before next season. I'm not sure he'll be 100%, but I don't think Marc needs to be 100% to win as he showed today.

 

Sounds like next years Honda is looking good in testing too, so it could be a real revival.

[Dolph]

You'd think he would have something to prove, but yeah, hopefully that's his thinking or we'll go back to boring next year...

 

The only thing Quartararo has to prove at the moment is that he can keep his head together and bring the title home. He won't do that by risking battling Marc on Marc's best track.

[Dolph]

What about that Bastianini fella, huh? Last race results: 6th, 3rd, 6th

[Zoe]

Oncu can't do that...that's race ban material.

Inches away from being a massacre there in the middle of the straight.

Acosta flew off like 100 meters..

Do you really expect someone to act and impose a serious ban? Remember Fenati, he's running again after his murderous attempt on another rider.

 

Edit: just read about the two race ban, better than nothing but I doubt it will help as a deterrence or education. Seems that Moto3 really needs another few fatalities before someone reacts.

Edited by Zoe, 04 October 2021 - 05:42.

[dissident]

Marc is regularly starting to fight at the very front again. He'll have a further.6 months of recovery before next season. I'm not sure he'll be 100%, but I don't think Marc needs to be 100% to win as he showed today.

 

Sounds like next years Honda is looking good in testing too, so it could be a real revival.

He doesn't need to be 100% at tracks he dominated in the past, true.

 

If he can improve his fitness I expect his qualifying performances and overall performance at other tracks will also improve, but the 2022 bike will dictate whether he can be a championship contender or not.

[Lotusse7en]

Glad everyone made it through the weekend in one piece. 

Good ! I did not see one incident/crash caused by the track condition , during the 3 races . Mostly the riders behaved well in the conditions 

[Clrnc]

Do you really expect someone to act and impose a serious ban? Remember Fenati, he's running again after his murderous attempt on another rider.

 

Edit: just read about the two race ban, better than nothing but I doubt it will help as a deterrence or education. Seems that Moto3 really needs another few fatalities before someone reacts.

Should be a 5 race ban. Alcoba and the other 2 could have easily been seriously injured there. Ridiculous maneuver.  

[Bleu]

Öncu was allowed to keep 5th place in this race which seems ridiculous.

[Zoe]

Doesn't send the right message if you ask me. But then I would have upheld the life long ban for Fenati in Moto2 as well...

[Myrvold]

Öncu was allowed to keep 5th place in this race which seems ridiculous.

I guess there are something in the rules about red flagging, going back in time for results etc. meaning that the accident "didn't happen".

[DS27]

If I were Marquez, I would be checking my bank balance to see if I have enough pennies to resurface COTA  

[Atreiu]

hahaha

[ehagar]

Doesn't send the right message if you ask me. But then I would have upheld the life long ban for Fenati in Moto2 as well...

 

In retrospect, the Fenati ban was about right IMO.

 

Although I do conceed your point. The FIM seems more interested in banning plastic surgery/steroid taking instagram models than actual sporting behavior.

Edited by ehagar, 04 October 2021 - 14:13.

[Chubby_Deuce]

What are the FIM rules around red flags and excluding riders that cause them? Seems to me that it should include any rider that's penalized for causing the incident too.

[ehagar]

That sounds too reasonable. It is curious that Oncu wasn't excluded.

Edited by ehagar, 04 October 2021 - 16:04.

[Gravelngrass]

The only thing Quartararo has to prove at the moment is that he can keep his head together and bring the title home. He won't do that by risking battling Marc on Marc's best track.

While I agree that this was not the bet track to try to prove something against MM, more due to the fact that the track is dangerous than to it being one of MM´s best (what better to prove that you can beat MM in one of his strongholds), I think Quartararo, as any other top level MotoGP rider (Mir, for example must be asking himself the same question) is or should be eager to prove that he can beat the best. And although both championships, Mir last year and probably Quartararo this year, are as worthy as any other, there will always be that lingering question of "can they beat MM at his best"?

 

And not only that. Strategically, thinking about next season, it would be a master play to beat MM even we he thinks he should be winning (favorite tracks, counterclockwise tracks) to affect him psychologically. After all, IIRC, no one has beaten MM to a championship except Lorenzo, and that was when MM theoretically hadn't matured fully yet. So yeah, IMO, many of these young guns still want to prove to themselves and the rest that yeah, they can beat MM at his best. 

[Dolph]

I dont agree with this logic. A championship at hand is better than a slim theoretical advantage in the bush.

[InSearchOfThe]

Marquez isn't at 100%. He himself has admitted as much. So that 'idea' will wait until next year.
No, FQ will take that title any way he can. When the world looks back in 20 years the only thing that matters to him is 2021 champ next to his name.

[Atreiu]

I think it's up to MM to prove he can recover and beat the young guns now.

[noikeee]

If Marc performs like this more often, Fabio continues at this level, and Bagnaia keeps up the recent form of the last few races as seemingly the Ducati team leader now, we could be on for a thriller season next year.

[Risil]

Enea Bastianini looks like one for the future too -- will be very interesting to see how he gets on with Gresini and their presumably higher-spec customer Ducatis. (Everyone will have customer Ducatis next year.)

[dissident]

I'm not a huge fan of comebacks, especially with the young talent we have on the grid, but Dovi is doing pretty damn well so far.

[registered]

Enea Bastianini looks like one for the future too -- will be very interesting to see how he gets on with Gresini and their presumably higher-spec customer Ducatis. (Everyone will have customer Ducatis next year.)

I thought they will be lower spec than other customer teams. Gresini will have GP21's, in comparison Marini will apparently get a GP22 at VR46

Edited by registered, 05 October 2021 - 11:35.