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#1 MatsNorway

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Posted 04 October 2021 - 20:48

FH4 might not be a sim by todays standards. But its fun and challenging so i am starting a thread for it. Who is playing it?

 

I run ABS and no clutch, everything else is off.

 

Been spending days now tuning different cars and figuring whos who in different classes. Mostly in S1 class and A class. Just going into a rivals event and clocking lap after lap then tuning it.

 

 

 

 

 



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#2 messy

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Posted 05 October 2021 - 12:49

I love Forza Horizon. FH4 is incredible, one of the best racing games for years I think, and I love the fact it's set in the UK. I'm less excited about FH5 because Mexico doesn't inspire me as much as racing through British country lanes. or the Australian outback, or the Amalfi Coast, or the Colorado Rockies....but I'm sure it'll be a great game. Game Pass too so no need to buy it if you're subscribed.



#3 PayasYouRace

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Posted 05 October 2021 - 13:04

FH4 is a lot of fun. Great return to the series for me since FH1.

I love just going out and exploring. The barn finds were always my favourite bit. Haven’t played in a while but I’d completed most of the races. Tried to have as many approximations of my family’s cars as a virtual car history, which added a bit of more personal fun. Got most of the houses too. Pretty much just the really expensive castles left in my game.

#4 Myrvold

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Posted 05 October 2021 - 18:32

I never touched the series until FH3, due to me being a PC-dude.

But I must admit FH4 felt very much like FH3 in a new location and new voiceovers. FH5 looks pretty much the same.

Is this what the series is? I mean multiple DLC cars in FH4 were the same in FH3 or stock cars in FH3.



#5 PayasYouRace

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Posted 05 October 2021 - 19:00

Given how similar FH1 and FH4 are, I'd imagine a lot of the appeal comes from the exploration side of things. The new environments and locations are what it's all about. I didn't return to the series for new cars and racing.



#6 MatsNorway

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Posted 05 October 2021 - 19:39

I play it for the variety of cars and later to run the outer rim of the game in different ultra fast cars. Its a bit like Isle of Man feel. First person driving, very little assists, 1200hp+ in a lot of cars and tons of downforce. I love keep my name on top in the speed zones, There is also the world rank but the top players there seems to game the system somehow with 500km+ through the curvy speed sones.

 

But recently i started going for laptimes in rivals event and just lap the track again and again before i do some tuning chances.

 

I can share some tunes if anyone wants to. I got a few cars i consider fast and suitable for steering wheel and no assists. Mostly A class or S1 class cars but i do believe my setup for Koenigsegg Jesko and Ferrari 599 X Evo is fast as well.

 

I can also have a look at your cars if you have one car you struggle to make competitive or have trouble getting right. The cars i have tuned the most is the Beetle and the Abarth 595. The suspension is seemingly modelled correctly so the camber is fluctuating heavily. But my tunes made the not only drivable but very fast on one track. :D


Edited by MatsNorway, 05 October 2021 - 19:44.


#7 PayasYouRace

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Posted 05 October 2021 - 19:54

I'm really not a tuner. I love to have my cars in stock condition.

 

I think the most fun I've had in FH4 was drifting the barn find Mk.III Escort round the Scottish B roads.

 

Well apart from doing the ultimate rally event in a Morris Minor, which was an intensely competitive race with a Reliant Supervan across the whole map, and I genuinely didn't know if I'd win until about 95% completion.



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Posted 06 October 2021 - 19:42

Given how similar FH1 and FH4 are, I'd imagine a lot of the appeal comes from the exploration side of things. The new environments and locations are what it's all about. I didn't return to the series for new cars and racing.

 

I get that, but that also felt quite similar from FH3 to FH4. I guess the FH-series isn't for me :) 



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Posted 06 October 2021 - 19:59

I use Lakehurst Copse circuit for testing tunes as it got tight corners, fast corners, two long acceleration zones and elevation chance, its a bit on the slow side compared to most tracks but it is fun.

Here is some times without ABS and no clutch. Most setups are stored if of interest.

 

S1 cars

0:58:650 Clio RS FE 2010 (FWD)

0:59.499 ZR1

0:59:646 F50

0:59.750 911 GT2 95

1:00:006 R34 (4WD)

1:00:096 ZL1 Camaro 2017

1:00:161 Audi R8

1:00:500 959 (4WD)

1:00:510 Lancia S4 (4WD)

1:00:800 NSX 92

1:00:910 Viper ACR

1:02:265 488 GTB (should get more work or be bumped to S2)

 

 

If you have a spesific car you love but do not like to do the setup stuff i would not mind giving it a go and try put some pace in it.


Edited by MatsNorway, 06 October 2021 - 20:24.


#10 balage06

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Posted 09 October 2021 - 17:18

Forza Horizon was never meant to be a sim in the first place, it has nothing to do with simulation at all. The last two editions look amazing, but I quiclky get bored of these 'oldschool' NFS-like racing games nowadays.



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Posted 09 October 2021 - 17:30

There are far, far too many open world NFS-clones out there, and they’re all so similar. My favourites, by far, are FH4 - nothing can come close to the variety of races and the challenges and the overall character of those games - and The Crew 2. Seriously, I bloody love The Crew 2. It’s improved beyond recognition since launch but it’s the map, the entire United States squashed into something game-sized, you can drive through every state, most of the major cities, fly over the Grand Canyon, find a crashed alien spaceship near Area 51 and photograph all the different wildlife. It’s a lovely way to chill out for an hour.

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 19:00



#13 MatsNorway

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Posted 25 October 2021 - 21:51

QIWM8DX.jpgLove it. Been driving it so much (days for hours each time) just to figure out the setup to make it drivable, been driving more today and finally found some more balance and pace for it.

 

I think i can share the setup now, its named Fast Abarth! Description: Abarth FTW


Edited by MatsNorway, 25 October 2021 - 21:54.


#14 JoshKing

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Posted 27 October 2021 - 10:30

I got Forza Horizon 3 with my Xbox bundle for Christmas back in 2017. I really enjoyed FH3, and I got FH4 the following Christmas. Again, I really enjoyed that game though it just didn't feel as thrilling as FH3. I don't know what it was, maybe because Australia was a bit more open than the UK?

 

I'm really excited for FH5. I think Mexico is a great locale and I think it'll feel more like FH3 with the more open desert atmosphere.

 

I'm also onboard with PayasYouRace with barn finds being the best part of the game - I love guessing what car it is during the cutscene before I'm told what it is and realise I'm not as much of a car nerd as I thought I was.



#15 MatsNorway

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Posted 27 October 2021 - 20:29

Personally i find the roads to be often quite generic, rarely do you end up with a twisty road with lots of elevation chances. Far too many roads are 350kkm/t+ roads



#16 messy

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Posted 31 October 2021 - 22:30

I was the opposite, I thought the British map was so, so much more interesting than the Australian one - more elevation changes, more interesting roads, a much denser feeling, more going on, more wildlife, less empty. Overall I still think FH2 had the best map, but that game feels really old now. I’m looking forward to FH5, this is a great reason to have a Game Pass subscription.

My vote for best map in an open world racing game goes to The Crew 2, though. Nothing else about it is as good as Forza but I love exploring the map.

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Posted 09 November 2021 - 21:28

I've fired up my Game Pass subscription again to give FH5 a try. This is my first FH Game. I'm not sure how I've managed to avoid all the others but here we are.

 

The game looks gorgeous and runs very well for me. So far it's a lot of casual fun. It's scratching an itch that I used to scratch back with Burnout Paradise. I spent hours and hours in that game just roaming around the map, collecting bonuses and doing challenges. So the FO model is perfect for that. The map feels huge to me and I've barely scratched the surface of what's in the game. I just love how I can just fire it up and do some races without any pressure.

 

Now to figure out how to obtain cars etc. Oh and I play it in offline mode. Not sure if I'm missing out by doing that but I just don't like the idea of smashing into actual players whilst roaming the map.

 

My only gripe so far is a slightly annoying SSAO glitch that introduces some very faint lines but they've acknowledged that as an issue so hopefully they'll address it.

 

(I somehow managed to trigger the £1 offer again on Game Pass which was a bonus. Possibly because I'm now on Windows 11.)


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#18 messy

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Posted 09 November 2021 - 21:43

I like it a lot, but I think there’s an element of ‘seen it all before’ and I preferred the UK map and the different seasons etc.

This opinion may change once I’ve done more than scratch the surface. I love the fact there’s a Nissan Sunny though. That was my first purchase.

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#19 pRy

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Posted 13 November 2021 - 22:08

I noticed FH4 is also included on the Game Pass so gave that a try. And whilst I did find the different location very appealing there were certain elements of the game that FH5 seemed to do better and so I've switched back.

 

I am however, rather overwhelmed. There appears to be a LOT to do in the game and I'm constantly being badgered to go do this, go do that. Which is perhaps what I should focus on to progress the story. But I fancied having a go at the playlist event thing to try and earn enough points to grab the Back to the Future car. However I'm hitting issues. For example I try to enter into an event and I'm told the event isn't suitable and to select a different blueprint.... I think because I don't have an A800? Car. However I don't see any of those cars in the store. Is it because I'm not levelled high enough to buy them? Or am I missing something regarding tuning?

 

It's a tad frustrating because the season in question ends in a few days. Will that car come up again in a few weeks or is it a one time only thing? 

 

I love the game but I get the feeling a lot of it has been built with the assumption you're a seasoned Forza Horizon player and not a newbie like myself. Any tips would be much appreciated.



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#20 MatsNorway

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Posted 13 November 2021 - 23:43

Yeah Forza loves to spam you with stuff, best tip is to ignore it and do what you wanna do, and then you sorta expand your understanding later when what you have been doing gets boring. I just want a bunch of cars and find a road to tune them for. I enjoy the tuning challenge and variations possible.

 

I sometimesdo playlists ofc. when there is horizon backstage passes(not sure if that is a thing in FH5) and cars i do not have.

 

You can take any base car below A class and tune it up to A class. But there is also Sedan A class races and Sports car A classes. So just collect cars and build for S, A, B class etc. If you want to compete you need to hoard cars. Sometimes multiple of same if you really like it and would like to run it in both S and A class etc.

 

The game has some learning for sure as there is so much but cars is one thing you will not worry about getting.


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Posted 14 November 2021 - 21:25

...I am however, rather overwhelmed. There appears to be a LOT to do in the game and I'm constantly being badgered to go do this, go do that...


That put me off playing FH4 more. I've not played it for ages. Stop unlocking so much stuff. My map is just a mess. I don't want playground stuff either. 

I totally enjoyed FH1 and FH2. I didn't think the setting for FH3 was great - just never got into it.

I'll get FH5 when the price drops. Hopefully they will allow you turn turn off all music permanently. That's such an annoying bug in FH4.



#22 MatsNorway

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Posted 15 November 2021 - 18:44

You can. You just have to turn of the radio in the car. The game remembers it at least pr. session. There is still ambient from the crowd ofc.


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#23 FiveSecondsOffThePace

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Posted 08 May 2022 - 00:28

I've played FH3, FH4, and FH5.

I'd say FH4 is my favourite. I just love the idea of going for a drive in a Ferrari in the British countryside. Very good to chill, even after a hard session iRacing.

Complete opposite end of the spectrum and a lot of fluff it could do without, but a solid 8/10 game I return to with a consistent feel good vibe.



#24 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 May 2022 - 09:03

FH4 is great to chill out. Fully agreed. I especially like going for a drive in an Elise S2, as I used to have one in real life.



#25 messy

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Posted 08 May 2022 - 09:56

Must say I think FH5 is really boring compared to FH4. The setting and open world just isn’t half as good. FH4 is an incredible game.

#26 Myrvold

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 19:37

Must say I think FH5 is really boring compared to FH4. The setting and open world just isn’t half as good. FH4 is an incredible game.

 

I don't feel like the difference between non-DLC'd FH5 and finished FH4 is any bigger than non-DLC'd FH4 was to finished FH3.

 

It's the same thing. FH3 was released, then got a map DLC where they tested out stuff (snow and ice), then got a wild-fantasy DLC where other things were tested.
FH4 got released, now with the snow and ice from FH3 DLC, and taking some from the fantasy-DLC as well. Then giving it a map-DLC with testing (togue-style road, some new PR stunts etc.), then a fantasy-DLC with some new features (accolades etc.)

FH5 is released, now with the popular road and some map features from the FH4 map-DLC, and with some of the fantasy-DLC stuff as well.

 

Now we'll just have to wait and see what the two main DLC's (expansion packs) for FH5 brings.



#27 MatsNorway

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 19:55

What exacly is from FH4 in FH5?


Edited by MatsNorway, 12 May 2022 - 19:56.