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#1 TomNokoe

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 22:33

F1 returns stateside after a year off for the start of THE RUN-IN - six races in seveneight weeks to decide the destiny of this year's championship.

 

The opening gambit of the final exchange begins at a sold-out, scorching CoTA. Anticipation ablaze after last year's cancellation.

 

The Mercedes momentum is building, but beware of a Red Bull riposte ... and can Ferrari or McLaren upset the apple cart at the front?

 

Things are starting to get serious, it's Round 17 of the 2021 FIA Formula One World Championship.

 

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The Circuit

 

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A bumpy, brash track that has forged its way into the hearts of American fans - a staple of the calendar that usually provides good races. Since 2012, six of the eight races have featured an overtake or battle for the win.
 

Reportedly bumpier than ever, and likely even more abrasive than the 2019 two-stop. A welcome challenge for the teams to nail their setup through the sweeps and straights.

 

The Outlook for America

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The battle at the front couldn't be closer. Verstappen's points lead is juxtaposed by the assumption that Red Bull's early-season advantage might just be slipping away. Despite Hamilton's success at this track, Verstappen too has had some stellar drives - 2015, 2017 and 2018 in particular. Will Newey's return from injury help Red Bull rediscover their setup sweet spot, aided by CoTA's relative lack of power sensitivity compared to Turkey, Sochi and Monza, or will the Mercedes juggernaut find another gear when they need it most? If this was a soccer match, it would be a six-pointer. A crucial, crucial weekend.

 

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Second billed is the season-long fight between the old rivals for the bronze medal in the constructors. Ferrari's staggered PU upgrade in Sochi and Istanbul was a real shot in the arm, and despite their points deficit, they must be considered favourites. McLaren's Monza miracle has been quickly dashed after anguish in Russia and an anonymous showing in Turkey. The layout again may seem to favour the Red cars, but back in 2019 McLaren managed to qualify within a second of pole, so it's possible the car's DNA is well suited to this circuit. A big spotlight on the driver pairings to see who can maximise their machinery.

 

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Slightly lower down in pecking order is the feud for fifth in the WCC. Alpine has scored points in 15 out of 16 rounds so far, fuelled by a resurgent, metronomic Alonso. Gasly's one-man showing at Alpha Tauri hasn't been enough, and will require support from Tsunoda if they are to fulfil Franz Tost's pre-season wish.

 

Elsewhere ...

 

Aston Martin's drab 2021 rolls on, with hopes of gatecrashing the battle above quickly fading. Curiously, Stroll is aiming to beat Vettel for a fifth Sunday in a row.

 

Williams points-scoring spurt came to a juddering halt in Turkey, but with no threat from Alfa Romeo, it's another opportunity to upset the midfield. A new track for Latifi and perhaps some rust for Russell after skipping 2020.

 

All eyes on Alfa as the rumours continue to swirl regarding the Andretti buyout. Kimi returns to the scene of his final F1 victory as his swansong moves ever closer.

 

Finally, at Haas, a race at home to lift the spirits as their pointless season continues. A rare Q2 appearance last time out may give cause for optimism. Don't mention the livery ...

 

Weather, Tyres
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Fri - Dry, sunny, 30c
Sat - Dry, sunny, 29c
Sun - Dry, sunny, 31c

 

As far as I can remember, the warmest race at CoTA. An extra level of intrigue for reliability, tyres and strategy.

 

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With the expected temperatures and seemingly exponential increase in track abrasiveness every year (remember the negative deg in 2012?), expect a very tough weekend for tyres. A guaranteed two-stop? Whisper it quietly, a three-stop? Another Canada 2010? Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself.

 

Tyre pressures: 21.5 psi (front) | 19.0 psi (rear)
Fronts -0.5 psi versus 2019, rears the same.

 

Schedule

Oh, how the tables have turned for us humble Europeans ... and for anyone east of Moscow, good luck :cat:

        PDT     MDT     CDT*    EDT    --   BST     CEST 
FP1     0930    1030    1130    1230   --   1730    1830
FP2     1300    1400    1500    1600   --   2100    2200
FP3     1100    1200    1300    1400   --   1900    2000
Q       1400    1500    1600    1700   --   2200    2300
R       1200    1300    1400    1500   --   2000    2100

*Local

Time zone conversion here.

 

Formula 4 and W Series supporting. Full schedule.

 

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Drivers, start your engines :D


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#2 ARTGP

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 22:36

Yeee haaww!!



#3 ToniF1

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 22:54

Omg i need to wait until 21:00 for a race...

#4 paulb

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 00:23

Thanks, Tom!

 

Leaving tomorrow for Austin.



#5 ThadGreen

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 00:47

Thanks, Tom!

 

Leaving tomorrow for Austin.

 

Some guys have all the luck. :)

 

Enjoy yourself and have a good time.



#6 SB

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 01:05

Omg i need to wait until 21:00 for a race...

 

It's 03:00 Monday morning in this side of the world, and I would have to leave home to office around 7am  :well:  :rolleyes:



#7 ARTGP

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 01:07

For those who can't make the race due to crazy hours, judging the last few races, I'm sure nothing will happen anyway  :p



#8 jonpollak

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 01:57

Only here for cringy Danica content.

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#9 jonpollak

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 01:58

Thanks, Tom!

Leaving tomorrow for Austin.


Wait WHAT…????
You are the MAN pb
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#10 AustinF1

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 02:15

Pirelli tire selection is out.

 

(courtesy of my co-admin @vfacundo on twitter)

 

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Edited by AustinF1, 21 October 2021 - 03:19.


#11 HeadFirst

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 02:51

Austin sounds like the best city in America to me. It has the weather, the music, the BBQ, the vibe, and the Longhorns. An F1 race is just icing on the cake. Wish I could be there.



#12 loki

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 02:53

Austin proper is pretty cool.  The surrounding area not so much…



#13 jonpollak

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 02:57

Pirelli tire selection is out.

(courtesy of @vfacundo on twitter)

Vance and his family are stalwarts of this venue.
Love ‘em.
Jp

#14 Widefoot2

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 02:58

Hey dudes, I feel so confident speaking like an American!

 

 

[Until I watch my Congress in "action", that is]



#15 jonpollak

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 03:02

Hold your observations for the invocation…..
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#16 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 06:16

Scorchio!!!

FINALLY! No bloody rain!

#17 teejay

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 06:43

Isn't it 6 in 8 weeks? 

 

OP ruined :(

 

 

Great work! 



#18 kumo7

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 06:45

This HAAS to be the year of HAAS!!

 

Looking forward to the battle between HAM MAX, plus NOR vs Reno.



#19 Myrvold

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 06:47

Omg i need to wait until 21:00 for a race...


I work 13:00-21:00 15-16 summer-Sundays during a year. This Sunday I am finished around 20:00. Good fit :)

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#20 renzmann

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 07:07

Merc will be way faster here, so Verstappen will lead the WDC comfortably after Austin.



#21 PayasYouRace

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 07:12

six races in seven weeks

 

I hadn't clicked to how intense this is going to be.



#22 thegamer23

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 07:14

Curious to see how the cars will handle the massive bumps we've seen already in MotoGP.
 



#23 JeePee

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 07:31

Curious to see how the cars will handle the massive bumps we've seen already in MotoGP.
 

Didn't Ferrari already break a suspension here in 2019? Maybe more of that this year...



#24 TomNokoe

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 08:09

Isn't it 6 in 8 weeks?

OP ruined :(


Great work!

Well it depends how you define "week", Sun 24 Oct to Sun 12 Dec is 49 days = 7 weeks.

This is semi cheating, because really you're supposed to include full weeks i.e Mon 18 Oct to Sun 12 Dec, but 6 in 7 sounds better!

Edited by TomNokoe, 21 October 2021 - 08:09.


#25 Ivanhoe

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 08:42

I'd rather look at weekends than weeks and it's 6 races in 8 consecutive weekends, so 2 weekends for a breather.



#26 Augurk

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 08:53

I'd rather look at weekends than weeks and it's 6 races in 8 consecutive weekends, so 2 weekends for a breather.

It's ridiculous that we're at the end of October and still have 6 races to go.

Not sure if I'll be watching all of them. 

 

Season is turning out too long. 



#27 Goron3

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 08:54

Looks like it's going to be much warmer than it was last time in Austin. In 2019, Max narrowly missed pole (less than a tenth) and then in the race triggered a very early round of pit stops, with Max and Bottas coming in around lap 13-14 and Lewis two stopping.

 

I'm expecting a straight up RB - Merc battle, and given that the circuit is pretty long with a high number of corners, I think both teams will have a clear gap over the midfield and will easily be able to qualify on the mediums. Should be a fascinating tactical encounter, just like France.



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Posted 21 October 2021 - 09:12

It's ridiculous that we're at the end of October and still have 6 races to go.

Not sure if I'll be watching all of them. 

 

Season is turning out too long. 

For most of the last seasons I'd follow you, but this season is a cracker, wouldn't want to miss a race. Let the Grand Finale begin.



#29 monolulu

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 10:16

Thanks, Tom!

 

Leaving tomorrow for Austin.

If this is your first visit take a trip up the zip wire. Great fun!



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Posted 21 October 2021 - 10:19

"Pirelli do not know what to expect from the circuit this time around. Indeed, their F1 chief Mario Isola says how the tyres behave there is a “question mark” to the Italian company."

 

:D 



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Posted 21 October 2021 - 10:24

 

"Pirelli do not know what to expect from the circuit this time around. Indeed, their F1 chief Mario Isola says how the tyres behave there is a “question mark” to the Italian company."

 

:D 

 

Uh-oh.



#32 OvDrone

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 10:36

Take a shoot for every time a driver mentions the BUMPS.



#33 GlenWatkins

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:05

Austin proper is pretty cool. The surrounding area not so much…

It was way cooler 30 plus uears ago b4 the population erupted. Now its just endless suburbia like any orher major US city.

Still love the music & food, that hasn't changed!

Edited by GlenWatkins, 21 October 2021 - 11:07.


#34 Grayson

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:21

It's ridiculous that we're at the end of October and still have 6 races to go.

Not sure if I'll be watching all of them. 

 

Season is turning out too long. 

 

It's a very long season and I agree that it's crazy that there are six races to go in late October.

 

But it's crazy in a good way! We've had some absolutely amazing races in 2021 and we've got a title battle between two superb drivers who are at their peak and who are driving very, very well. And there are some really tight battles further down the field as well, such as Ferrari vs McLaren.

 

Short of a title battle between more than two drivers, I can't imagine what more we could ask for from the coming six races. I'm looking forward to every single one!



#35 Requiem84

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:31

We are watching the best season since 2012 (so the best season in 10 years) and I see some complaints about the season being too long  :p



#36 Augurk

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:32

It's a very long season and I agree that it's crazy that there are six races to go in late October.

 

But it's crazy in a good way! We've had some absolutely amazing races in 2021 and we've got a title battle between two superb drivers who are at their peak and who are driving very, very well. And there are some really tight battles further down the field as well, such as Ferrari vs McLaren.

 

Short of a title battle between more than two drivers, I can't imagine what more we could ask for from the coming six races. I'm looking forward to every single one!

 

 

For most of the last seasons I'd follow you, but this season is a cracker, wouldn't want to miss a race. Let the Grand Finale begin.

 

I suppose I'd agree normally. Just feeling a bit of fatigued about all the time it costs. Luckily there's a couple of evening races now that don't cost an entire Sunday. 

And I do feel on the whole the value of F1 races is slightly diminishing with each extra race. 



#37 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:42

I suppose I'd agree normally. Just feeling a bit of fatigued about all the time it costs. Luckily there's a couple of evening races now that don't cost an entire Sunday.
And I do feel on the whole the value of F1 races is slightly diminishing with each extra race.


I just don’t understand the ‘devaluing’ part at all. Odd.

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:52

I just don’t understand the ‘devaluing’ part at all. Odd.

 

Me neither. And I'll never understand the people who want fewer races. I'm annoyed when I know I have to wait another 2 weeks for a race.

Also, an afternoon or morning race doesn't cost the entire Sunday either.



#39 Augurk

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:57

I just don’t understand the ‘devaluing’ part at all. Odd.

 

 

Me neither. And I'll never understand the people who want fewer races. I'm annoyed when I know I have to wait another 2 weeks for a race.

Also, an afternoon or morning race doesn't cost the entire Sunday either.

It's just a personal experience and obviously not the same for everyone. 

Probably stems from having "grown up" with every gp weekend being huge and pivotal, and there only being around 16 or 17 a year. 

It's not the value of F1 that is diminishing for me it's just the value of each individual race weekend. 

 

And having a race at 2pm or 3pm pretty much is a blockage for doing anything else that is meaningful that day, in our rhytm anyway. Probably everything is also a result of changed personal circumstances and having other priorities in life. 



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#40 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 11:58

It's just a personal experience and obviously not the same for everyone. 

Probably stems from having "grown up" with every gp weekend being huge and pivotal, and there only being around 16 or 17 a year. 

It's not the value of F1 that is diminishing for me it's just the value of each individual race weekend. 

 

And having a race at 2pm or 3pm pretty much is a blockage for doing anything else that is meaningful that day, in our rhytm anyway. Probably everything is also a result of changed personal circumstances and having other priorities in life. 

 

Don't ever follow test cricket then!!!



#41 Augurk

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 12:08

Don't ever follow test cricket then!!!

I surely won't.  :rotfl:



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Posted 21 October 2021 - 12:45



It's just a personal experience and obviously not the same for everyone. 

Probably stems from having "grown up" with every gp weekend being huge and pivotal, and there only being around 16 or 17 a year. 

It's not the value of F1 that is diminishing for me it's just the value of each individual race weekend. 

 

And having a race at 2pm or 3pm pretty much is a blockage for doing anything else that is meaningful that day, in our rhytm anyway. Probably everything is also a result of changed personal circumstances and having other priorities in life. 

 

There are a couple of solutions.

 

First you could relocate to the left coast of America and watch most races live at 5am Sunday morning and thus leaving the rest of your Sunday for whatever else you want to do.

 

or

 

Use a digital recording device to record the race, do what whatever else you want to do and watch the race at your leisure either that evening or next day. :)   

 

And yeah, the Austin race is being broadcast live on ABC this Sunday, I sure hope we don't have to suffer commercials throughout the race. It will be broadcast on ESPN later in the evening.


Edited by ThadGreen, 21 October 2021 - 13:23.


#43 sportyskells

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 12:55

This week I can visit my sister and thanks to the time zone I in back in time for fp1 (if I do not get called down for food)

#44 renzmann

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 13:27

Every year I forget how late the Austin GP is on. Friday and Saturday (CEST) evening I'll have to record the sessions. Hopefully nobody will tell me the results before that - thank God my friends are too sophisticated to have any interest in F1! :smoking:



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Posted 21 October 2021 - 13:31

Take a shoot for every time a driver mentions the BUMPS.

 

No.  I respect my liver too much to subject it to such punishment.



#46 paulb

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 13:48

Wait WHAT…????
You are the MAN pb
Jp

Meeting my brother and niece. First time there for me.

#47 Lotusse7en

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 13:50

Only here for cringy Danica content.

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Who ? Isn't that now past tense ?



#48 FLB

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 13:51

Meeting my brother and niece. First time there for me.

Will you look for (and find) the right mic to do Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww for the international broadcast?


Edited by FLB, 21 October 2021 - 13:52.


#49 jpm2019

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 14:23

can't wait.

 

what a season so far.

 

this should be a cracker. Love this track. 



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Posted 21 October 2021 - 14:27

Will you look for (and find) the right mic to do Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww for the international broadcast?

Consider it done. I’ll get Danica to join me!