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#1 Risil

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:22

Hola! It's Sunday, and the Losail circuit's first inaugural never-to-be-repeated Qatar Grand Prix is less than two hours from beginning. Barring any strange events it ought to be a quick race, so I will also be brief.

 

Qualifying put Lewis Hamilton on pole with Max Verstappen alongside. Same old, but Lewis put nearly half a second on the Red Bull driver, and was eight-tenths up on his teammate Valtteri Bottas. Perhaps equally worrying for Verstappen and Red Bull, their other driver Sergio Perez starts 11th after a misjudged and not very inspired Q2. Charles Leclerc and Daniel Ricciardo had similar experiences of being vastly outqualified by their teammates: they start on row 7 while Norris is 6th and Sainz 7th. Red Bull B squad AlphaTauri, and intriguingly enough Fernando Alonso's Alpine, took advantage, all placing comfortably in the top 10.

 

The top three are all starting on Pirelli's medium tyre compound and owing to high levels of wear on the high corner speed, high degredation circuit, two-stop strategies are expected. Nobody has enough hard tyres and the mediums look likely to be good for something less than half Qatar's 56 laps. But who knows?

 

Otherwise, expect the normal amounts of track limits complaining (there's a lot of tarmac everywhere) and in the event of any collisions, self-serving allusions to what race stewards had or hadn't decided earlier in the season. Nobody knows how easy it will be to overtake (pro: long straight, high downforce; anti: long fast corners, only one straight) but as usual it'll probably come down to whose tyre strategies are clashing rather than anything inherent to the circuit. I don't know anything!

 

Race gets underway at 2pm GMT. Please change that into your local time at your leisure. I can't find those nice images F1 makes that tells you when the race is taking place from the great cities of the world. But, switch your feed on in around 90 minutes or so and it'll be there. Enjoy!



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#2 yolo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:26

So, Bottas with a 3-place grid penalty. 

 

Should we expect the same for Sainz, and Max? Or will Max be hit with a 5-place penalty because double yellows were out?



#3 cheekybru

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:26

I'd love to be able to discuss the race build up but we still haven't got the Q results 😒

#4 Grayson

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:27

95 minutes to the race and we don’t know who’s starting in second place… What proportion of the past nine days have been spent waiting for stewards’ decisions?

On a related note, can anyone imagine how hilarious Bottas’s meeting with the stewards must have been? It must be the first time they’ve had a driver begging them to give him (and… You know… Anyone who did something similar) a penalty!

#5 FLB

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:27

Chris Medland sur Twitter : "DECISION: Max Verstappen given five-place grid penalty for failing to respect double waved yellow flags in qualifying #F1 #QatarGP" / Twitter



#6 yolo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:27

OFFICIAL: Max has a 5-place grid penalty.



#7 Clrnc

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:28

What's the grid now? Seems like Sainz escaped punishment. 



#8 Bartonz20let

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:28

Meltdown incoming....

#9 Mercstar

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:28

A shame it took so long, but glad the FIA had the balls to make the right decision.

#10 Arundo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

Good then atleast this season is over now, grats Lewis and Merc with yet another cleansweep.

#11 Donkey

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

So, Bottas with a 3-place grid penalty. 

 

Should we expect the same for Sainz, and Max? Or will Max be hit with a 5-place penalty because double yellows were out?

They have no choice following the Bottas penalty but to give at least a 3 place penalty if they have evidence that Sainz and Max did the same thing.

 

Doubt they will give a 5 place penalty to Max but you never know...



#12 krapmeister

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

Going to be a spicy first lap



#13 Risil

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

Lol, made the OP 5 minutes too early. Is this good for Alonso?

#14 aray

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

A decision that should have taken 2-3 hours, took almost a day. Ineptness of Race Control are growing day by day....



#15 Heyli

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

Meltdown incoming....

I hartly doubt it. It is a sensible decision. 



#16 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

No pen for Sainz.

#17 yolo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

They have no choice following the Bottas penalty but to give at least a 3 place penalty if they have evidence that Sainz and Max did the same thing.

 

Doubt they will give a 5 place penalty to Max but you never know...

 

Max had double waved yellows, not single. Hence 5-place penalty.

 

Will make this a very interesting race.



#18 renzmann

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

Can't resist: Championship over!



#19 Marklar

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:29

Alonso leading after the first lap anyone?

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#20 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

Gasly p2. Yikes !!

#21 andrewf1

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

Why the hell are they announcing it one driver at a time? Ffs, FIA. Amateur clowns.

#22 Donkey

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

Gasly should hit up Marko and ask if he can get a promotion to RBR if he punts Lewis off at the first corner...



#23 Arundo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

Going to be a spicy first lap


Lol it wont, Lewis will drive off and thats it, Bottas 2, Max 3.

#24 Mercstar

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

Alonso leading after the first lap anyone?


Well he does start on Softs, so entirely possible.

#25 Spillage

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

It's the correct decision but why has it taken so long to arrive at it? Why didn't the FIA think yaterdaty "hmm, a load of drivers improved while Gasly was parked on track. Better to check to see if there were yellow flags!"

Verstappen needs 2 P3s and a win to be world champion. It's going to be tough from here. Podium is the target.

#26 w00dy

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

So can we conclude that this weekend's Steward batch is Team Lewis?



#27 Bartonz20let

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

I hartly doubt it. It is a sensible decision.


I mean the inevitable 'season over' talk... before the race has even started

#28 krapmeister

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:30

 

Alonso leading after the first lap anyone?

 

Is there a way to shortcut T1?



#29 squarewun

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:31

Can't resist: Championship over!


:))) The situation compels you

#30 Scotracer

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:31

Welp, Lewis gonna be just about level now

#31 Scotracer

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:31

Lol it wont, Lewis will drive off and thats it, Bottas 2, Max 3.


Might want to check Twitter

#32 Arundo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:32

It's the correct decision but why has it taken so long to arrive at it? Why didn't the FIA think yaterdaty "hmm, a load of drivers improved while Gasly was parked on track. Better to check to see if there were yellow flags!"

Verstappen needs 2 P3s and a win to be world champion. It's going to be tough from here. Podium is the target.


He wont win anymore this season, its Merc territory now until end of season.

#33 yolo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:32

Gasly p2. Yikes !!

 

Feels like Leclerc and Rosberg at Monaco where they ruined everybody else's lap and end up better off. 

 

Gasly could even up in the lead of the race if he gets a good getaway.



#34 ForzaFormula

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:32

So can we conclude that this weekend's Steward batch is Team Lewis?

 

No but this is nothing to do with lewis and a simple slum dunk penalties due to yellow flags, actually it is possible it is due to Lewis and Max championship that the decision took much longer than it should do.



#35 Heyli

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:32

I mean the inevitable 'season over' talk... before the race has even started

To be honest. i do feel it's advantage Mercedes, but this decision hardly changes the outlook. Max needed 1 win and 2 podium finishes before the race and it wasnt likely he'd get the win here and a podium finish is still very much possible.



#36 Arundo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:32

Might want to check Twitter


Dont have twitter whats there to check?

#37 FLB

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:33

This. Is. A. Decision. That. Should. Have. Taken. All. Of. Five. MinutesTo. Make.

 

 

For the three of them.


Edited by FLB, 21 November 2021 - 12:33.


#38 thefinalapex

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:33

Is gasly also on softs?



#39 ForzaFormula

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:33

Can't resist: Championship over!

 

You should have more faith in your favourite driver and team, who is ahead in the standings and can still finish 2nd or win today.



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#40 geralt

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:33

How did Saint not get penalised? Did someone watch his onboard



#41 krapmeister

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:33

Lol it wont, Lewis will drive off and thats it, Bottas 2, Max 3.

 

Max is going to want to move forward asap, Gasly in P2 with no reason to be a wall flower and Alonso up there as well - chance of plenty happening.

 

But if nothing happens then yeah, likely a Lewis win



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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:34

To be honest. i do feel it's advantage Mercedes, but this decision hardly changes the outlook. Max needed 1 win and 2 podium finishes before the race and it wasnt likely he'd get the win here and a podium finish is still very much possible.


The race hasn't even started yet..

Anyone remember last weekend??

#43 aray

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:34

I suspect we will have a first corner fiasco with Lewis. Or else championship over.



#44 yolo

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:34

Welp, Lewis gonna be just about level now

 

Not if Gasly or Alonso have anything to do about it.


Edited by yolo, 21 November 2021 - 12:34.


#45 MJB5990

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:34

Gasly and Fernando will need to be aggressive with each other, still a fight for 5th in the WCC. Lewis surely in danger at the start.

#46 Risil

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:34

Does anyone have the new starting grid?

#47 hayabusasc

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:34

I think Lewis was always going to win this one. The question now is can Bottas get P2 and take points away from Max.

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:35

Is gasly also on softs?

Yes.

 

Can see Gasly and Alonso getting tangled up on the first lap due to the P5 constructor battle. Gasly was very aggressive towards Alonso on the first lap in Brazil, pushed him nearly off the track when it looked like Alonso had a bit of a run on him.



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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:35

Not if Gasly or Alonso have anything to do about it.

 

 

I think Gasly will lose his position before T1.



#50 w1Y

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Posted 21 November 2021 - 12:35

How many AT are ahead of max that will wave him by