6 / 1 / 1 / 2=150+18+15+24 =207
Oracle Red Bull Racing Team 2022
#2401
Posted 28 December 2022 - 20:01
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#2402
Posted 29 December 2022 - 07:54
6 / 1 / 1 / 2=150+18+15+24 =207
So two TPs think that three drivers were better than Max in 2022 . I would like to know those three drivers.
One I could imagine but three?
#2403
Posted 29 December 2022 - 08:25
So two TPs think that three drivers were better than Max in 2022 . I would like to know those three drivers.
One I could imagine but three?
Probably Russell, Leclerc and Hamilton. I dont agree, but those are the most likely candidates.
#2404
Posted 29 December 2022 - 08:29
Probably Russell, Leclerc and Hamilton. I dont agree, but those are the most likely candidates.
Funny how we always talk about the "data" and yet evey year the TP vote reflects car performance.
#2405
Posted 29 December 2022 - 12:21
Edited by eab, 29 December 2022 - 21:29.
#2406
Posted 29 December 2022 - 13:13
#2407
Posted 29 December 2022 - 17:51
Probably Russell, Leclerc and Hamilton. I dont agree, but those are the most likely candidates.
Yeah Lewis, for one, was too high up on that list for this season.
#2408
Posted 29 December 2022 - 18:30
Yeah Lewis, for one, was too high up on that list for this season.
Fourth or fifth would seem about right. Perez in 5th is the jarring one, ahead of Norris and Alonso. He went missing for a large part of the season.
#2409
Posted 29 December 2022 - 19:04
Fourth or fifth would seem about right. Perez in 5th is the jarring one, ahead of Norris and Alonso. He went missing for a large part of the season.
Agreed on both accounts. If you have Russell in your top 3-4, Lewis should be directly behind him imo. They were virtually equal.
Perez is lucky to break into the top 10 in my mind.
#2410
Posted 29 December 2022 - 21:43
You'd say the first option seems most logical. It seems hard to imagine multiple team bosses didn't put him in the Top 2. I can imagine quite a few not putting him first as they may have put one of their own drivers first.
Edited by eab, 30 December 2022 - 09:53.
#2411
Posted 29 December 2022 - 22:20
Fourth or fifth would seem about right. Perez in 5th is the jarring one, ahead of Norris and Alonso. He went missing for a large part of the season.
Yeah they have Perez too high, too, and probably Sainz as well.
#2412
Posted 29 December 2022 - 23:17
or the team principals actually know that RB is a one car team with all the focus on one driver
#2413
Posted 30 December 2022 - 08:50
First of all, there's no way you can come to a total of 207 pts with 9 (or less) votes, so the TPs definitely got to vote for their own drivers. It also means that, we can deduce that all the TPs voted rb's lead driver in their top-10.
So with 10 TPs' casting their votes, there are 11 possible ways to come to a total of 207 points:
1) 5*1st 4*2nd 1*5th
2) 6*1st 3*3rd 1*4th
3) 6*1st 1*2nd 1*3rd 2*4th
4) 6*1st 2*2nd 1*3rd 1*7th
5) 7*1st 1*4th 2*5th
6) 7*1st 2*4th 1*6th
7) 7*1st 2*3rd 1*9th
8) 7*1st 1*2nd 1*6th 1*7th
9) 7*1st 1*2nd 1*5th 1*8th
10) 7*1st 1*2nd 1*4th 1*9th
11) 8*1st 1*7th 1*10th
Option 2 with Ferrari, Alfa and Haas putting Ferrari drivers ahead and maybe Toto picking his drivers and either Mick for a giggle or Charles to continue the charm offensive?
#2414
Posted 30 December 2022 - 14:37
Option 2 with Ferrari, Alfa and Haas putting Ferrari drivers ahead and maybe Toto picking his drivers and either Mick for a giggle or Charles to continue the charm offensive?
Could be, could be.
It might also be interesting to see how the possibilities stack if one would only look at the numbers, so without trying to guess what individual TPs did (based on bias). Then your choice, option 2, would be the 4th highest ranked in terms of being most likely. Fourth out of eleven, so not too bad, but its probability is actually lower than the average. There are two options that have the highest probability by far. However, together they still don't reach 50%. Those two are options 3 and 4. Between the two of them, they are at 48%, divided equally.
#2415
Posted 30 December 2022 - 16:29
#2416
Posted 31 December 2022 - 08:57
Did you know that 82.7% of people make up percentages to make their claim sound more reliable?
Only 17% of people are aware of that fact.
#2417
Posted 31 December 2022 - 15:10
or the team principals actually know that RB is a one car team with all the focus on one driver
They can't know but they might think but then it's still not correct.
#2418
Posted 03 January 2023 - 03:40
people actually voted Max as 3rd driver this year.They can't know but they might think but then it's still not correct.
This is more about politics than performance
#2419
Posted 03 January 2023 - 08:19
people actually voted Max as 3rd driver this year.
This is more about politics than performance
I don’t think Max will care…he won the WDC ultimately
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#2420
Posted 06 January 2023 - 12:57
people actually voted Max as 3rd driver this year.
This is more about politics than performance
I can imagine Zak not putting him top as he seemed very wedded to his views around the Cost Cap. Or Toto / Binotto putting their drivers ahead of Max to manage egos.
I struggle to make an argument for anything other than Verstappen as best driver last season. Whether a fan or not that was as close to a perfect season as I’ve seen in 29 years.
#2421
Posted 07 January 2023 - 11:09
or the team principals actually know that RB is a one car team with all the focus on one driver
That's not a hook for them to hang their hat on. Most teams have probably done that at one time or another.