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#1 Amz964

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 10:42

It's official team now known as BWT Alpine

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#2 PitViperRacing

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 10:44

It's official team now known as BWT Alpine

That means it'll have the pink  :down:  :down:



#3 Acathla

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 10:52

I'm really afraid the pink will ruin the car. 



#4 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 10:58

EL PLAN!  :p



#5 Beri

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 11:00

I'm really afraid the pink will ruin the car.


Nah, I think it will look good..

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#6 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 11:07

Tada ...

 

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By magic racing design

 

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#7 Alburaq

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 11:28

Yes blue, red and pink can work and give a nice (and modern) livery IMO.
It will obviously depend on the designers work. But Sean Bull said it will be the best livery again. And I think we can trust him.

*actually, he's implying a neo-retro look 

https://twitter.com/...078342945873940

Meanwhile, it makes me think of this
 
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Edited by Alburaq, 11 February 2022 - 11:31.


#8 Viryfan

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 11:45

I hope it means we will be at budget cap now.

70m USD from FOM
30-40m USD frop BP-Castrol
20-30musd from BWT?
The rest : Mandiant,Plug Power,Mapfre,Microsoft

I don't count RCI Bank as it just Renault group putting money...

#9 noikeee

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 11:59

I'm really afraid the pink will ruin the car. 

 

I quite liked Alpine's livery and hated the BWT ones (an unpopular opinion, I believe) so yeah I'm with you on this one.



#10 ARTGP

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 12:37

I'm really afraid the pink will ruin the car. 

 

Sean Bull (the designer) can literally do nothing wrong. So I think it will be great actually. 


Edited by ARTGP, 11 February 2022 - 12:39.


#11 Beri

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 12:38

The BWT liveries on the Force India/Racing Points were not my favorite either.
Yet, as Alburaq proved, a blue and pink livery could become good if one really thinks it through. And I quite like the one from Auto Hebdo as well.

Edit: and I think ARTGP nailed it; Sean Bull doesn't do messy designs. So I hope his influence is still there.

Edited by Beri, 11 February 2022 - 12:39.


#12 eREr

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 12:44

Ok, BWT is in the bag as title sponsor. Good. When will they announce Otmar?



#13 Amz964

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 13:15

Sean Bull (the designer) can literally do nothing wrong. So I think it will be great actually.


Absolutely just hope he is given free rein with it. He can make some cracking liveries.

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 13:18

The should go full Pink.



#15 jwill189

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 13:43

Nah, I think it will look good..

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The people from Castrol were mad because its sponsor's colors were not shown prominently on the car last year. I wonder what the reaction would be with its colors covered in pink?



#16 eREr

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 14:00

Castrol green with Alpine blue was terrible imho:

 

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#17 naiboz

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 14:02

If Alonso ends up with a pink helmet I'll be going to have a word with him myself.



#18 Secretariat

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 14:27

I suppose we will find out soon enough if Rossi is Inspector Clouseau or not.



#19 Beri

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 14:50

The people from Castrol were mad because its sponsor's colors were not shown prominently on the car last year. I wonder what the reaction would be with its colors covered in pink?

 

The Castrol green in the livery was only introduced at Djeddah onwards as a token of respect. So if there is a newsitem Ive missed on BP being disgruntled that their brand of Castrol wasnt shown prominently enough on the car, then I would like to read that item. Otherwise I think it isnt any issue.



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#20 midgrid

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 15:00

This seems like an opportune moment to start the team's 2022 thread - carry on...



#21 Viryfan

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 15:17

The Castrol green in the livery was only introduced at Djeddah onwards as a token of respect. So if there is a newsitem Ive missed on BP being disgruntled that their brand of Castrol wasnt shown prominently enough on the car, then I would like to read that item. Otherwise I think it isnt any issue.


Castrol was not unhappy because of the colours but because of the switch from Renault to Alpine.

Hence why we saw the "Renault recommands Castrol" on the rearwing endplate at the last two races.

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 16:12

I like that Auto Hebdo livery mock-up.



#23 BRG

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 16:20

I hope it means we will be at budget cap now.

70m USD from FOM
30-40m USD frop BP-Castrol
20-30musd from BWT?

The rest : Mandiant,Plug Power,Mapfre,Microsoft

I don't count RCI Bank as it just Renault group putting money...

SO BP put in more cash than the title sponsir BWT and just get a couple of decals and no corporate colours?  How does that work?



#24 Risil

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 16:21

Probably gives a clue that covering an F1 car in your name and corporate colours isn't necessarily where the value in sponsorship is these days.



#25 Cliff

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 16:31

Sean Bull (the designer) can literally do nothing wrong. So I think it will be great actually. 

 

The designer might not be able to do anything wrong, client or stakeholder input definitely can and often will ("my logo needs to be bigger, I want more pink at this super illogical position on the car"). It's the bane of every designers life. 

 

One of the most important skills of a designer/agency is actually talking the clients out of their horrendous suggestions, but often there's too much ego involved and corporate design turns out looking sh*t. 


Edited by Cliff, 11 February 2022 - 16:32.


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Posted 11 February 2022 - 16:35

I'm really afraid the pink will ruin the car. 

 

actually, this livery concept looks great

 

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 16:38

SO BP put in more cash than the title sponsir BWT and just get a couple of decals and no corporate colours?  How does that work?

 

Official Renault workshops put Castrol lubricants into your Renault roadcar instead of Elf since 2020. They not just collaborate in F1.

 

https://www.castrol....ss-release.html

 

"Groupe Renault appoints Castrol as its aftersales’ global service fill engine oil lubricants partner from 1 January 2020"



#28 Alfisti

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 17:17

The mercedes, Aston and ALpine will all blend on track. 



#29 ColeTrickle44

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 17:28

actually, this livery concept looks great

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That looks in amazing

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 17:46

Castrol was not unhappy because of the colours but because of the switch from Renault to Alpine.

Hence why we saw the "Renault recommands Castrol" on the rearwing endplate at the last two races.

 

Ah, that's right. I had my facts mixed up.  :up:



#31 pryanjack

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 19:43

That McLaren livery … meh. Can’t wait to see what Sean Bull has done …

#32 PitViperRacing

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 19:55

actually, this livery concept looks great

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It doesn't look terrible, but it'd look so much better without the pink!

#33 ARTGP

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 21:54

That means it'll have the pink  :down:  :down:

 

As long as the money is green  :wave:  :lol:



#34 Ali_G

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Posted 11 February 2022 - 23:43

Castrol green with Alpine blue was terrible imho:

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I’d say the opposite. I found Alpine to have the worst (boring) livery in 2021. The Castries colours at the back improved it.

Still sad to lose the black and yellow of Renault for the dull blue of Alpine.

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 05:01

The blue of Alpine? Which one? :lol: the car reflected 99 different blues, depending on the lighting and the sky, and most of them looked nice, unlike the AM green livery that only looked beautiful in studio.  :smoking:


Edited by Alburaq, 12 February 2022 - 05:06.


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Posted 12 February 2022 - 05:29

actually, this livery concept looks great

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BWT is the title sponsor so I guess there is gonna be lots of Pink not just some accents.

Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 12 February 2022 - 05:29.


#37 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 12:32

Only thing I’m worried about is Alonso going to have to go pink with his helmet? Surely….not right? Ocon has done it before, and his helmets aren’t iconic anyway, so not important.

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 12:37

Only thing I’m worried about is Alonso going to have to go pink with his helmet? Surely….not right? Ocon has done it before, and his helmets aren’t iconic anyway, so not important.

 

Hamilton's helmet was always purple or yellow, regardless of the car. Perhaps what he gets to do is a matter of contract details.


Edited by ARTGP, 12 February 2022 - 12:38.


#39 Anja

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 12:45

Hamilton's helmet was always purple or yellow, regardless of the car. Perhaps what he gets to do is a matter of contract details.

 

Yeah but BWT is particularly insistent on pushing their colour everywhere they can. 



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#40 Alburaq

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 13:05

Let's hope Alpine will be even more insistent on keeping a mostly blue car.



#41 Alburaq

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 17:52

An Alpine F1 team truck has been spotted somewhere, with a new 'A' logo/livery, and the logo has a vintage neo/retro style. 

What if the car is pink at the front half, with a black rear end, with this logo on the black part ? 

 

You know what? since Sean Bull mentioned 'Vapourware', I want this livery to have this esthetic  :p

 

 

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Edited by Alburaq, 12 February 2022 - 18:07.


#42 ARTGP

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 17:57

I think it would be more interesting if they didn't try to go for a solid stripes look.

 

I saw a photo of an LMP2 car from Nielsen Racing which I thought was an interesting concept for how you can mesh blue and some other color:

 

Some of the detail like the random grey bits is a bit off to my eye, but I like it generally speaking.

 

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For fun I tried color changing the red to pink and it was absolutely hideous so I won't post that  :rotfl:


Edited by ARTGP, 12 February 2022 - 18:01.


#43 Alburaq

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 18:06

That's what I did too, but I dont dislike it  :drunk:



#44 Alburaq

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Posted 12 February 2022 - 19:46

On a black car, blue and pink could look great IMO

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Edited by Alburaq, 12 February 2022 - 20:39.


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Posted 12 February 2022 - 21:01

On a black car, blue and pink could look great IMO

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Car would look like a liquorice allsort



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Posted 12 February 2022 - 21:09

I quite like dark blue with lighter pink accents. It definitely can work, just a matter of getting the right shades so they complement each other. 


Edited by Anja, 12 February 2022 - 21:15.


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Posted 12 February 2022 - 21:18

That means it'll have the pink  :down:  :down:

 

It could be cool ! 

Sean Bull is not a bad designer so I’m confident.  



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Posted 12 February 2022 - 22:12

What about this one ? 

 

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Posted 13 February 2022 - 04:47

At this moment, what I'm the most concerned about, is the power and reliability of the PU.

Talking of livery, despite 2021 livery being lovely, I didn't like the design and color combination of the Alpine logo specially the Red colour. If I had to guess, I would say the Red colour needs to be gone to make the addition of the Pink colour, work.

 

IMO traditional Alpine logo is much more beautiful and elegant...

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Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 13 February 2022 - 05:14.


#50 jwill189

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Posted 13 February 2022 - 05:45

At this moment, what I'm the most concerned about, is the power and reliability of the PU.
 

 

Power first, reliability a distant second. Mercedes have already shown that making an engine last 7 or 8 races is not optimal strategy anyway.