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[FirstnameLastname]

https://www.sportsga.../f1-2022-leaks/

- Story mode removed
- ability to ‘buy watches and sunglasses’ (with real money)
- supercars added (?!)

Sounds lame. But it’s EA sports now

[Nemo1965]

I don't know if I am inadvertently high-jacking this thread, but Sim Dream Development have a free mod for Assetto Corsa, with which you can drive the F1-75.

 

I gave it a spin at Silverstone and Barcelona. At the last track I was about seven seconds slower than the real car in the real world, which seems realistic because I am always about 7 seconds slower than either the faster simmers or the real drivers!

 

[messy]

They’re going a bit stale now, for me, these Codemasters F1 games. They’re clearly pretty good, but I think it’s getting towards the point where a full overhaul/new engine is needed because they’ve just been incremental improvements for so many years now with daft fluffy bits tacked on.

[balage06]

VR you say?

[cjm321190]

I want a co-op career my team. So you can get 24 cars two friends my team.

[Tiakumosan]

It seems it will have crossplay. Autosport championship when?

[balage06]

The game will be officially revealed in about 8 hours:

https://www.ea.com/e.../games/f1/f1-22

 

[IrvTheSwerve]

I know I’m an old fogey (well, I’m 35) but anyone who pays actual cash for things such as sunglasses for your character to wear is a fool. But I feel that way about micro-transactions in general, it must be a nightmare having kids who video game these days.

 

I feel loathed paying for ‘track packs’ for Assetto Corsa Competitzione for example, but at least I know I’m getting a handful of new, quality tracks that will provide me with hours and hours of fun. I just hate the thought that some (many!) games can cost well over £100 if you want all of the content.

 

There’s my oldie rant for the day!

[balage06]

but anyone who pays actual cash for things such as sunglasses for your character to wear is a fool.

 

Hopefully, they won't make features like this mandatory to make progress in the game, because then we can just simply ignore it and if purchasing virtual items is what makes someone happy, I don't care, just don't use my money for it.

Edited by balage06, 21 April 2022 - 11:15.

[PayasYouRace]

I know I’m an old fogey (well, I’m 35) but anyone who pays actual cash for things such as sunglasses for your character to wear is a fool. But I feel that way about micro-transactions in general, it must be a nightmare having kids who video game these days.

I feel loathed paying for ‘track packs’ for Assetto Corsa Competitzione for example, but at least I know I’m getting a handful of new, quality tracks that will provide me with hours and hours of fun. I just hate the thought that some (many!) games can cost well over £100 if you want all of the content.

There’s my oldie rant for the day!

Indeed. It’s a bit like my approach to Forza Motorsport. I’ll happily pay a couple of quid for a DLC car, given that a model car these days is pushing £100 in 1/43, and I’m getting real content out of it.

[balage06]

https://www.ea.com/g.../f1-22-announce

 

We got the VR support on PC, so I'm happy (for now).

[FirstnameLastname]

Maybe the next addition could be virtual thieves to rob you of your expensive watch you’ve just purchased

[PayasYouRace]

Not sure how one can expect dramatic changes in a look of a game nowadays, so yeah, it's looking similar.

Still, nice to see a lap of Miami.

[balage06]

[messy]

It looks quite good, doesn't it. There are just so few surprises these days from all the yearly updates - F1, MotoGP, WRC, MXGP, Supercross - all yearly installments, all pretty much a mild evolution of the previous game for another 50 quid. I miss the excitement at trying to work out how a new game would feel, what they'd do to it. Like - F1'97-98-99 were three completely different games using completely different developers and completely different engines. 

 

That said, when that still does happen in this day and age you get NASCAR 21 Ignition. Which for everyone fortunate enough not to have played it, was a complete ground up new game for last year, and it was horrendous. So I'm not really criticising F1 22, just I guess bemoaning the lack of real surprises these days. 

[JoshKing]

VR looks good - early days still, but things look promising. Graphics don't really look too different over last year, which I wasn't expecting. Engine sounds apparently aren't final, but they also sound pretty decent right now.

 

Being able to do the entire formation lap manually looks like a good feature, too. From what the content creators have said, the physics sound relatively accurate to what we've seen so far the 2022 cars - heavy in the low speed corners, quick in the high speed corners.

 

RIP Jeff, though the new race engineer is cool. Apparently they've used a former McLaren engineer (Can't remember his name).

[PayasYouRace]

I’m definitely a convert to formation laps. I always though they were pointless in a game, but when you’re really into a race weekend, I find it really helps getting comfortable before the start. I tend to have fewer first corner collisions when if done the formation lap.

When they say fully manual, does that mean stopping in your grid slot too? I’d need help finding the correct one that’s for sure. But it’s always immersion breaking when the computer takes over and doesn’t get the speed right and you start ghosting through other cars.

[balage06]

does that mean stopping in your grid slot too?

 

That seems to be the case

[messy]

Tell you what I’d love from the F1 series - MotoGP22 this year has two fully licensed seasons in it - 2022 obviously, and rather randomly also 2009. I think it’s basically the developers making sure there’s still some Valentino Rossi in the game - how could there be a MotoGP game without him -but it’s well done and how great would something similar be in F1 2023? A great way to make use of/re-implement classic content.

Anyway, yeah, this looks pretty nice. I like formation laps too, but they have to be fully manual. And I can’t think of any that have been up to now? The computer always takes back over at the last corner and puts you in your grid slot. I’m not sure if I’ve tried it in F1 2021 mind.

[balage06]

Tell you what I’d love from the F1 series - MotoGP22 this year has two fully licensed seasons in it - 2022 obviously, and rather randomly also 2009. I think it’s basically the developers making sure there’s still some Valentino Rossi in the game - how could there be a MotoGP game without him -but it’s well done and how great would something similar be in F1 2023? A great way to make use of/re-implement classic content.

Anyway, yeah, this looks pretty nice. I like formation laps too, but they have to be fully manual. And I can’t think of any that have been up to now? The computer always takes back over at the last corner and puts you in your grid slot. I’m not sure if I’ve tried it in F1 2021 mind.

 

OT, but speaking of MotoGP, I've seen this video the other day:

 

 

And I was wondering, how is it possible to steer the bike this smoothly? I could never achieve anything like this, it looked like my rider was having a seizure.

[messy]

It’s a brilliant game, MotoGP 22. But yeah, it’s hard and I could never ride like that. The braking is really complex to learn albeit not quite as hard as in 21.

[PayasYouRace]

Tell you what I’d love from the F1 series - MotoGP22 this year has two fully licensed seasons in it - 2022 obviously, and rather randomly also 2009. I think it’s basically the developers making sure there’s still some Valentino Rossi in the game - how could there be a MotoGP game without him -but it’s well done and how great would something similar be in F1 2023? A great way to make use of/re-implement classic content.

Anyway, yeah, this looks pretty nice. I like formation laps too, but they have to be fully manual. And I can’t think of any that have been up to now? The computer always takes back over at the last corner and puts you in your grid slot. I’m not sure if I’ve tried it in F1 2021 mind.

The computer does the final bit for you in 2021 too.

 

I feel like they were trying to do the classic season with F1 2013, but it was too difficult to get all the licensing together, so it became more generic. Still the best classic content any modern F1 game has had, with not just classic cars but appropriate drivers and tracks too.

 

I’d love to see 1996 included. Not just because it’s the season I started watching and because I’m a massive Damon Hill fan, but also because it’s the missing season from the early official console games. The rather average Ubisoft PC game was set in 1996, but that’s it.

 

I suppose 2007-2009 (not counting the Wii game) would also be worth a look because they were skipped too, between Sony and Codemasters custody. Maybe if Lewis retires they could have his first and last seasons represented in the same game. That would be something, even if it did mean narrow, grooved tyred crapwagons.

[messy]

There was an absolutely terrible N64 game based off the 1996 season too. It had this thing where you could transfer drivers between teams which was cool, but everything else about it was dreadful. From what I remember the circuits looked nothing like the real tracks and it was impossible to do anything other than drop miles off the back by turn one even if you started on pole.

But yeah, I’d vote 2007 or 2008 because they’re the two seasons that were completely skipped. 2007 and Lewis’ final season would make all kinds of sense, that would be excellent.

[Myrvold]

The rather average Ubisoft PC game was set in 1996, but that’s it.

 

Physics and graphics were awful. But it had some good ideas. The retirements were realistic and a fun addition, damage/wear on your own car as well.
The driver roster where you could swap drivers around was a nice thing as well. As were the 8 "driver 1-8" drivers, that represented Ralf Schumacher, Villeneuve, Prost, Senna, Mansell, Andretti and a couple of more I cannot remember right now.

[FiveSecondsOffThePace]

Re the F1 series, I agree it is better to just get a mod on AC if you need the latest updates

The problem with the game is it charges high prices for something that is always late and has about 15-30 patches and extra DLC every season

Don't get me wrong, it is a good game, but one every 5 years would do

[PayasYouRace]

I’ll probably do what I did with F1 2021 and wait until it’s available on the cheap later in the year.

[BRK]

Might get F1 2022 only for the new cars of this era and tracks - plus career mode, which is average in the semi-sim titles (ACC, AC, rF, A2), and then I think I'm done with Codies games. 

[messy]

I’m really loathe to spend £59.99 on a new release these days. When they were 20 quid cheaper in the ‘olden days’ yeah, but….

They go on sale so quickly anyway. I really wanted Supercross 5 this year, because I’d heard it was a vast improvement over 4 and really good fun. It’s been out like 2 months and already on sale. It won’t take long, and by the time it goes on sale it’ll be patched and better anyway.

[PayasYouRace]

Don't watch if you're easily offended by people who don't take F1 super seriously, but a useful video. First one I've seen that shows how you find your starting spot at the end of the formation lap.

 

[babbel]

I wonder what they'll do with Shanghai and Portimao this year. Would be a shame if they made Portimao just for 2021

[messy]

I hope they keep them in and actually make them available. I found it SO frustrating knowing that F1 2021 included Shanghai and not to mention the full 2020 grid in addition to 2021 - but kept it all locked behind 'Braking Point'. MotoGP 22 has it right. The full 2009 season, all riders, tracks, liveries, to race on whenever you like. 

[PayasYouRace]

Shanghai was available in Grand Prix mode in 2021. It wasn’t locked away. It just wasn’t available as a race in career mode.

The 2020 cars were only in Braking Point, which was actually good fun (I chose Williams) but I don’t see much replay value.

[babbel]

Just having them in GP mode would be more than enough for me!

[pRy]

Looks awesome in VR.

 

[balage06]

[MikeTekRacing]

So, I started playing this over the weekend (on PS4) and there are some differences to F12021

- harder to get on the throttle (it takes quite a bit more care to apply the throttle)

- easier to get the brakes right (I feel it's a lot harder to lock up during the -straight braking- phase. When you turn in you clearly need to trail brake and release the brakes or you will lock up but overall getting the brakes right seems a lot easier)

- the AI is pretty bad at wheel to wheel with you. It turns in even if you're there (like Schumacher/Villeneuve), they run wide and tag you sometimes, they defend quite late or they just dive bomb sometimes

- DRS is a lot less powerful. Passes are a lot harder, and ERS seems equally powerful

 

other people's thoughts?

Edited by MikeTekRacing, 06 July 2022 - 17:28.

[PayasYouRace]

I'll let you know when it becomes cheaper and I've got myself a Series X.

[babbel]

I think I'll pick this one up when it gets cheaper. Usually it's on sale after 1-2 months already 

[messy]

I bought this, but haven't actually tried it yet. Which sort of makes me an idiot for paying full price, but I'll never learn.

[balage06]

Unfortunately, I've read on many places that the presence of certain sim hardware makes the framerate extremely low (below 30 FPS) and the devs were unable to fix it as of yet.

[cjm321190]

I know on the PS4 if freezes and locks up sometimes. But that is to be expected on an older system.

[messy]

I’ve only tried it on Xbox One X so far (literally just now) and not noticed any problems with frame rate. I was quite impressed on first play with how the cars handle, the F2 seems much improved too (and with a realistic order!)

[balage06]

I meant on PC, for example, certain Fanatec pedal sets caused issues when they were connected directly via USB. But apparently, it is getting better with the latest changes.

[MikeTekRacing]

I know on the PS4 if freezes and locks up sometimes. But that is to be expected on an older system.

I haven't noticed anything major on PS4 so far. 
I can't figure out how sector times work (or don't work) but other than that - nothing major

[cjm321190]

I haven't noticed anything major on PS4 so far.
I can't figure out how sector times work (or don't work) but other than that - nothing major

Thought the sector times did not work. Maybe that is a bug. I solved the PS4 issue. I basically wiped the whole thing and re set. I have an older machine. Nonproblems now.

[PayasYouRace]

Thought I'd try the 10 hour free trial on my Xbone. Working quite well actually. I'm only playing on a controller, but I like how solid the cars feel on turn in, but you have to be so, so careful applying the throttle, and I don't use TC.

 

I've not committed to anything long term, only done time trials and quick single races. First run was a Williams at Silverstone is is my custom. But mainly trying out Melbourne, Miami, Barcelona and Abu Dhabi so far, as they're the circuits with changes since the last game. I must say I really enjoy the new Melbourne layout. It's much more flowing than before, and the horrible chicane is gone. Abu Dhabi is vastly improved too, and it'll take a while to get used to how many turns are subtly faster than before. I really like the "new" La Caixa corner at Barcelona. It drives much like the original and has got rid of the awkward kink before Banco Sabadell, which I always hated.

 

Really don't care for the F1 life and supercars stuff. But I do like the new menu music selection. Feels like when you had Placebo on F1 2000, or the country music selection in the NASCAR games. Must be an EA Sports thing, but I like the vibe.

 

I'll probably spent my remaining free hours in a bit, but not sure if there's enough to justify buying at full price.

[Tiakumosan]

Now with crossplay, how do you feel about doing some races or even an autosport championship? I’m yet to get the game as I’m waiting for a sale but it should be discounted soon.

[PayasYouRace]

I’d be up for a few races. I’m pretty busy though and will be on holiday for a couple weeks soon. But willing to set some time aside after that. Most evenings after 10 pm UK time could be possible.

 

My trial ran out and I was enjoying the start of my career mode so much I bit the bullet and bought the basic edition of the game. Doing a single driver career (didn’t want My Team this time round). Did F2 for five races with Carlin, and I’ve just started by first 10 race season with Williams (because I always start at Williams). Just practising for Jeddah right now. My first season includes all the “new” and modified circuits in the game.

[MikeTekRacing]

i'd do a few races - I am on Pacific Timezone, so later in Europe is actually better for me

[Tiakumosan]

I’m on utc-3 and can play on weekends