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#1 mariner

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 15:09

Try this on Hemmings 

 

https://www.hemmings...an/2546833.html



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#2 mikeC

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 15:34

That would make an interesting entry in the Goodwood Members' Meeting 'Tiddlers' Race.



#3 BRG

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 18:57

An Elan chassis and custom body and then fit it with a 1275cc Cooper S engine???  Why, just why??  If it was for a 1300cc class, surely a small capacity Twin Cam would have  a lot better ?



#4 Ray Bell

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 20:11

It would be interesting to know which Datsun 5-speed box it has...

 

They were pretty thin on the ground in 1968.



#5 AJCee

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 21:05

“Beutifully restored“ - by a turkey farmer in Norfolk?

#6 GregThomas

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 21:05

It would be interesting to know which Datsun 5-speed box it has...

 

They were pretty thin on the ground in 1968.

 

"logbooks back to 1972"  Inferring it was raced and presumably developed post 1972 - when a suitable Datsun 5 speed would have been available.

Good choice IMO to go behind a BMC A series. It would very nearly be a straight bolt on.



#7 GreenMachine

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 21:53

It is a cute little car, but 'Lotus Elan'?  :stoned:  :down:   I wonder why its creator chose to call it that, a massive failure of the imagination in my books.  Perhaps they thought it would get them an entry into some production sports car racing ...  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

 

Otherwise, if it were in my part of the world, I could see myself stumping up the readies and having a lot of fun with it.



#8 Tom Glowacki

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 23:14

“Beutifully restored“ - by a turkey farmer in Norfolk?

That is probably who built it in the first place.



#9 D-Type

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 23:26

Although it raced in SCCA races, was it successful?  Granted, with a one-off, lack of success can be down to the driver.



#10 10kDA

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Posted 20 April 2022 - 23:56

The seller is calling it a Lotus Elan. It's likely the creator called it something else. CSR was a class mostly populated with purpose-built race cars, which included one-offs. My guess is selling a car today described as a Lotus Elan would get more interest and command a higher price than a "special" built from a Lotus Elan.



#11 GreenMachine

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 00:36

The seller is calling it a Lotus Elan. It's likely the creator called it something else. .

 

Perhaps, but the logbook would surely have a name for the car, and selling it as something else (which a seller might want to do, for the reason you suggested) would most likely be in breach of law here - but maybe not over there?



#12 10kDA

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 03:36

Perhaps, but the logbook would surely have a name for the car, and selling it as something else (which a seller might want to do, for the reason you suggested) would most likely be in breach of law here - but maybe not over there?

To make certain, we better check with Legal at Coys.



#13 PZR

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 07:32

It would be interesting to know which Datsun 5-speed box it has...

 

They were pretty thin on the ground in 1968.

5-speed O/D Servo (steel) synchro FS5C71-A was available in SR(L)211 Fairlady 2000 Roadster from early 1967.



#14 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 07:50

Ah yes...

 

The box with the funny gate, I'd forgotten that one.



#15 PZR

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 08:16

Ah yes...

 

The box with the funny gate, I'd forgotten that one.

No, not the 'dogleg' type. FS5C71-A has conventional shift pattern. Was used on early C10-series Skylines and S30-series Zs (except North American exports).

 

I have them on a couple of my cars. Like that Servo synchro feel.



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Posted 21 April 2022 - 09:45

It might be an A-Series but it isn't a Cooper S engine.



#17 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 15:30

Missing a head stud?



#18 mariner

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 15:49

I guess if you had access to a reasonably priced Elan chassis and you lived the mid USA far from the UK's motorsport industry using it as the basis of a 1300 cc car isn't that dumb. With the limited power of the A series engine and less weight than a road Elan the slightly frail for racing chassis a nd suspension would not be overstressed.

 

Also teh A series was cheaper to run than a full Twin Cam. 


Edited by mariner, 21 April 2022 - 16:12.


#19 Catalina Park

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Posted 21 April 2022 - 19:50

Missing a head stud?

Missing the Cooper S engine casting with removable side covers on the tappet chest.
It is way more likely to be a Sprite engine. The crankshaft for one thing.



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#20 Porsche718

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Posted 22 April 2022 - 04:34

That motor was released in the Morris/Austin 1100S. Still 1275 but no side valve-lifter covers and IIRC two head studs missing. A 3/8 stud next to the thermo housing and a 5/16 at the other end of the head.

 

I did my apprenticeship with Paul Gulson so know the A-Series reasonably well. Now into Volkswagen engines ... go figure?



#21 Catalina Park

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Posted 22 April 2022 - 06:50

That engine was known in Australia as the "1100S", it was known in America as the "Austin America". They did fit that block with extra head studs in the Austin/Morris 1300GT.
The same block was also used in Sprites and Midgets but with a crank that could run a RWD flywheel.