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#1 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:04

Albert Fabrega came up with some interesting news on Sunday night. The reliable Formula 1 journalist, in the service of the Spanish broadcasting company DAZN among others, knows after the Grand Prix at the circuit of Imola that an early driver switch between two teams is coming up.

 

Its got to be Piastri from Alpine to Williams

 

Or Vettel off home...

 

 

Rumor: 'Driver swap between two teams coming up in 2022' (gpblog.com)



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#2 jpm2019

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:08

I don't understand. He is a journalist and has info. Why not release the info fully or say nothing at all? 



#3 Marklar

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:19

I don't understand. He is a journalist and has info. Why not release the info fully or say nothing at all?

coz if he does the source blacklists him

there were more non-English speaking reporters implying something like this yesterday, so he is not pulling it out of his arse

#4 aray

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:27

Switch means changing places. If either Vettel or Lafiti is getting the boot, then it won't be a 'swap' between two teams.

#5 Ali623

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:33

My prediction is Gasly and Albon.

 

  • Gasly has made it clear he's looking for a seat outwith AT
  • AT haven't looked great this season so far, Gasly has complained about this lack of performance already
  • After Perez's start to the season, he probably realises RB will never be an option now
  • Doesn't look like there's going to be an option for him at any of the top 5 teams any time soon

 

  • Albon is only at loan at Williams I believe, whereas they could get Gasly permanently if RB fully release him, better long-term option for Williams
  • RB still value Albon clearly, would probably prefer him at AT compared to Gasly
  • RB are the only team that have done/been involved in mid-season driver swaps in recent years


#6 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:38

 

My prediction is Gasly and Albon.

 

  • Gasly has made it clear he's looking for a seat outwith AT
  • AT haven't looked great this season so far, Gasly has complained about this lack of performance already
  • After Perez's start to the season, he probably realises RB will never be an option now
  • Doesn't look like there's going to be an option for him at any of the top 5 teams any time soon

 

  • Albon is only at loan at Williams I believe, whereas they could get Gasly permanently if RB fully release him, better long-term option for Williams
  • RB still value Albon clearly, would probably prefer him at AT compared to Gasly
  • RB are the only team that have done/been involved in mid-season driver swaps in recent years

 

 

Interesting idea. Not sure if this would be of interest to Gasly though.



#7 Ali623

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:42

Interesting idea. Not sure if this would be of interest to Gasly though.

 

What other option would he have though? If he stays at AT, he'll eventually get replaced by a RB junior and could be without a seat. Even if that doesn't happen, AT at best will only ever be a decent midfield team, at least there's a theoretical higher ceiling at Williams. 



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:46

He did not mention it is going to be this year, it is just what gpblog thinks

#9 JimmyClark

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:46

Interesting idea. Not sure if this would be of interest to Gasly though.


I just posted my thoughts in the 2023 thread; Williams is a decent place to go if he wants to manoeuvre himself into contention for replacing Hamilton in 2024.

#10 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:48

Gasly to Williams could be a master stroke, Especially with the potential VAG future.  long game... Very long game!



#11 BRK

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:54

Could it be Mick and Albon? Mick is getting shown up by Magnussen at the moment, perhaps they are keen on getting some more experience onboard in what is a points scoring car? 

 

Or - Mick to Williams to partner an incoming Piastri?


Edited by BRK, 25 April 2022 - 07:54.


#12 Beri

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 07:57

My prediction is Gasly and Albon.
 

  • Gasly has made it clear he's looking for a seat outwith AT
  • AT haven't looked great this season so far, Gasly has complained about this lack of performance already
  • After Perez's start to the season, he probably realises RB will never be an option now
  • Doesn't look like there's going to be an option for him at any of the top 5 teams any time soon
 
  • Albon is only at loan at Williams I believe, whereas they could get Gasly permanently if RB fully release him, better long-term option for Williams
  • RB still value Albon clearly, would probably prefer him at AT compared to Gasly
  • RB are the only team that have done/been involved in mid-season driver swaps in recent years

So Williams ending up with Gasly and having Piastri in 2023? Now that would be a dream.

#13 Beri

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 08:05

I've just had a little thought. What if it indeed involves Gasly, but him moving to Alpine in exchange for... Alonso? Having Alonso onboard at the Red Bull family, relegating Perez to Alpha Tauri and having an all French lineup at Alpine?

#14 Lennat

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 08:10

I would LOVE to see Alonso in a Red Bull, but there is no way that will happen.



#15 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 08:11

I've just had a little thought. What if it indeed involves Gasly, but him moving to Alpine in exchange for... Alonso? Having Alonso onboard at the Red Bull family, relegating Perez to Alpha Tauri and having an all French lineup at Alpine?

 

Not sure Piastri would be too thrilled with that though. If that's a consideration that is.



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 08:14

I've just had a little thought. What if it indeed involves Gasly, but him moving to Alpine in exchange for... Alonso? Having Alonso onboard at the Red Bull family, relegating Perez to Alpha Tauri and having an all French lineup at Alpine?


There's no way Red Bull would swap Perez for Alonso. They seem to genuinely love Checo, and he is absolutely perfect for the role they want him to do, especially this year. Alonso would just rock the boat.

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 08:17

There's no way Red Bull would swap Perez for Alonso. They seem to genuinely love Checo, and he is absolutely perfect for the role they want him to do, especially this year. Alonso would just rock the boat.

 

I think so too. And as much as I like Alonso, is there any evidence that he's fairing any better vs Ocon than Perez would be doing? Red Bull are 10-years past the possibility of getting 2012-Alonso on board.


Edited by Rediscoveryx, 25 April 2022 - 08:17.


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Posted 25 April 2022 - 08:58

 

My prediction is Gasly and Albon.

 

  • Gasly has made it clear he's looking for a seat outwith AT
  • AT haven't looked great this season so far, Gasly has complained about this lack of performance already
  • After Perez's start to the season, he probably realises RB will never be an option now
  • Doesn't look like there's going to be an option for him at any of the top 5 teams any time soon

 

  • Albon is only at loan at Williams I believe, whereas they could get Gasly permanently if RB fully release him, better long-term option for Williams
  • RB still value Albon clearly, would probably prefer him at AT compared to Gasly
  • RB are the only team that have done/been involved in mid-season driver swaps in recent years

 

It feels bad to jump on the Ricciardo bad train, but I would LOVE to see Gasly paired with Norris at McLaren.


Edited by 1player, 25 April 2022 - 08:59.


#19 Beri

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 09:26

https://twitter.com/...GI7vgwgrQA&s=19

More news by Albert, one of the teams that includes the swap is blue. Maybe it is Gasly-Albon but why would Pierre want to downgrade?


I think if some move by Gasly towards Williams is indeed done, then the deal with VAG is already done.

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 09:26

https://twitter.com/...GI7vgwgrQA&s=19

 

but why would Pierre want to downgrade?

 

The long game. 



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 09:30

https://twitter.com/...GI7vgwgrQA&s=19

 

More news by Albert, one of the teams that includes the swap is blue. Maybe it is Gasly-Albon but why would Pierre want to downgrade?

 

That’s a fake account



#22 BRG

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 09:30

The reliable Formula 1 journalist

Isn't that an oxymoron?



#23 MaroF1

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 09:38

That’s a fake account

 

Apologies, just seen it now. Very hard to deduce this...



#24 Anderis

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 10:01

If it's going to be a switch between teams, it's hard looking past Albon-Gasly. Nothing I can think of seems more likely.



#25 Beri

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 10:03

If it's going to be a switch between teams, it's hard looking past Albon-Gasly. Nothing I can think of seems more likely.


I fully agree. But don't you have a gut feeling, that if Gasly moves to Williams, a deal with VAG is in the bag? I can't think otherwise as to why Gasly would move to Williams.

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 10:06

The only possible swap mid-season is Latifi-Piastri IMO. Anything else could only happen after the end of the season.



#27 le chat noir

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 10:10

Bottas - Hamilton



#28 Anderis

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 10:13

People keep mentionig Piastri as if they didn't read it's going to be a switch between two teams. As Piastri doesn't have a seat, how would a switch work here? Somoene would go to replace him as Alpine's reserve driver? I doubt.



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 12:22

Could it be Mick and Albon? Mick is getting shown up by Magnussen at the moment, perhaps they are keen on getting some more experience onboard in what is a points scoring car?

Or - Mick to Williams to partner an incoming Piastri?


Unlikely considering their respective PU suppliers. Toto made a bit of a fuss about Albon going there.

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 14:55

Spicy!

 

My absolute favourite news story from this genre was a bit of Joe Saward speculation that in the middle of 2006 Fernando Alonso would go to McLaren early, replacing Kimi who would go straight to Ferrari as expected, and Michael Schumacher would finish the season at Renault.



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 14:57

Interesting idea. Not sure if this would be of interest to Gasly though.

Agreed.



#32 Nathan

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:02

Switch means changing places. If either Vettel or Lafiti is getting the boot, then it won't be a 'swap' between two teams.

 

 

Let's remember this is translated.  Can't get semantic here. 


Edited by Nathan, 25 April 2022 - 15:03.


#33 r4mses

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:04

VET Aston -> couch

HUL couch -> Aston

 

eh? :p



#34 Misk

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:04

Spicy!

 

My absolute favourite news story from this genre was a bit of Joe Saward speculation that in the middle of 2006 Fernando Alonso would go to McLaren early, replacing Kimi who would go straight to Ferrari as expected, and Michael Schumacher would finish the season at Renault.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsover.



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:04

Bottas - Hamilton


It involves a blue car though.

So must be Latifi - Hamilton

#36 ARTGP

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:04

I've just had a little thought. What if it indeed involves Gasly, but him moving to Alpine in exchange for... Alonso? Having Alonso onboard at the Red Bull family, relegating Perez to Alpha Tauri and having an all French lineup at Alpine?

 

That would be some plot twist. Can't fathom it though. 


Edited by ARTGP, 25 April 2022 - 15:06.


#37 ARTGP

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:05

That makes absolutely no sense whatsover.

 

That was the trick....  ;)


Edited by ARTGP, 25 April 2022 - 15:09.


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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:10

Spicy!

My absolute favourite news story from this genre was a bit of Joe Saward speculation that in the middle of 2006 Fernando Alonso would go to McLaren early, replacing Kimi who would go straight to Ferrari as expected, and Michael Schumacher would finish the season at Renault.


How did it take us so long to realise he had so little credibility after that?

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:12

How did it take us so long to realise he had so little credibility after that?

 

This was before the days of Youtube and Twitter, if you didn't have journalists poking the silly season from time to time there was the risk that the whole thing would go out and we'd have to focus on something boring like mass dampers or rev limits or Formula 3.



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#40 Dolph

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:19

Let's remember this is translated.  Can't get semantic here. 

 

 

Is there anyone on this forum who can speak Spanish, who can confirm this?

 

Although, if I look at his hands, I think it means switch between teams.



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:23

Ricciardo - Alonso swap would be amazing

#42 PayasYouRace

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:31

Is there anyone on this forum who can speak Spanish, who can confirm this?

Although, if I look at his hands, I think it means switch between teams.

If it’s just a swap between teams, it doesn’t make sense to be talking about the driver who is leaving (“not a surprise”) and the driver who is arriving (“a surprise”).

Edit: But then I think he’s actually just correcting himself when he said “actually it’s a swap between teams”. Ignore my previous comment.

#43 Mat13

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:32

Ricciardo - Alonso swap would be amazing


GP2 engine.

#44 GiorgioF1

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:34

Ricciardo - Alonso swap would be amazing

It would also be insane if you're Alpine. They have Piastri waiting for a seat.



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:35

If it’s just a swap between teams, it doesn’t make sense to be talking about the driver who is leaving (“not a surprise”) and the driver who is arriving (“a surprise”).

First I was thinking
Latifi => Alpine coffee machine
Williams <= Piastri

But that would not be much of a surprise, would it?



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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:37

It would also be insane if you're Alpine. They have Piastri waiting for a seat.

I would think it is just for the rest of the season, getting him warmed up. Would be good for both them and Williams.



#47 AncientLurker

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:39

Ferrari needs a reliable wing-man for Leclerc, Alfa has a proven one...



#48 Bloggsworth

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:40

Terry Treadpedal to swap with Penelope Pitstop would be more accurate...



#49 milestone 11

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:41

Fabregas and Alonso are mates. Ricciardo to Alpine?

#50 loki

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Posted 25 April 2022 - 15:42

Ferrari needs a reliable wing-man for Leclerc, Alfa has a proven one...

But does Zhou speak Italian?…