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Rate the 2022 Miami Grand Prix

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#51 messy

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 13:38

The race in a word: 'meh'.

 

It says something that I can't wait to get to Catalunya next. A proper circuit.

 

10-15 years ago I'd be yawning at the very thought of the Spanish GP. This is the way F1 is going, sadly.

 

I think the return of circuits like Imola, Red Bull Ring, Istanbul, Nurburgring etc (even if a couple of them only for Covid) has been quite a positive change in recent years, back towards the 'proper circuits'. But it's interesting that circuits like the RBR and Catalunya that were derided back in the mid 90s now look like the really good ones! Hell, I'd even have Magny Cours back over any of these awful street tracks. 



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#52 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 13:46

I think the return of circuits like Imola, Red Bull Ring, Istanbul, Nurburgring etc (even if a couple of them only for Covid) has been quite a positive change in recent years, back towards the 'proper circuits'. But it's interesting that circuits like the RBR and Catalunya that were derided back in the mid 90s now look like the really good ones! Hell, I'd even have Magny Cours back over any of these awful street tracks.

Imola is way worse than the Miami layout

#53 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 13:49

I think the return of circuits like Imola, Red Bull Ring, Istanbul, Nurburgring etc (even if a couple of them only for Covid) has been quite a positive change in recent years, back towards the 'proper circuits'. But it's interesting that circuits like the RBR and Catalunya that were derided back in the mid 90s now look like the really good ones! Hell, I'd even have Magny Cours back over any of these awful street tracks. 

 

Yep. I actually quite like Magny-Cours though lol! I honestly think it would be amazing to see them go through those fast chicanes with modern F1 cars. DRS on the long straight. It would be pretty cool (I know the arguments regarding access etc. though!).

 

I'm not a fan of the move towards street circuits tbh but that's just me. As you say, the good thing about COVID is we got to go to some incredible circuits. Mugello, Istanbul, Portimao. It's a shame that we needed COVID to have a move towards these kinds of circuits.



#54 messy

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 13:58

I certainly preferred Magny Cours over Paul Ricard!! Estoril to Adelaide was a really nice section of track and it produced some really good races over the years. 



#55 HeadFirst

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 14:53

Imola is way worse than the Miami layout

 

I agree, but is pretty and in Europe. :yawnface:



#56 John B

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 15:07

But it's interesting that circuits like the RBR and Catalunya that were derided back in the mid 90s now look like the really good ones


Similar perception shifts also occurred with Hockenheim and Hungary since the mid 80s.

#57 dissident

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 15:25

A good but not amazing race that was let down by some of the worst TV direction I've ever seen.



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Posted 09 May 2022 - 15:27

Best driver: Max, and Charles both drove extremely well. There were other good efforts, including Carlos, Seb and more.
Worst driver: Mick and Valtteri both made costly mistakes. Pierre seemed to suffer a momentary lapse of spatial awareness. Latifi was just slow.
Best team: Red Bull
Worst team: Aston Martin's error with fuel temp, really put them at the back.
Best overtake: Max on Carlos.
Worst overtake: Checo on Carlos.
Best moment: Alonso's great start.
Worst moment: Mick taking Seb out.
Best thing about the Miami circuit: The fake marina .... gotta have a sense of humor, something lacking in F1.
Worst thing about the Miami circuit: The fake marina, if you don't get the joke.
Best thing about the race: Max and Charles put on a show at the beginning and at the end.
Worst thing about the race: Needed a safety car to bring the race back together.  I am not in favor of he back marker pass through, Max earned those passes, but it did add some excitement to the end of the race.

And the race in a sentence: It was the IndyCar street festival, IndyCar fans lust after .... too much fun for some.



#59 Nemo1965

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 19:14

Best driver: Max V. and a shout out to Albon.
Worst driver: Mick. Not because he is that bad, he’s is a nice kid, but F1 (apparently) expects him to be a Ferrari-driver in the future. Setting this view vs his driving, demands vs achievements: worst, even worse than Lattifi.
Best team: Red Bull. They were masterful this weekend in finding out and managing the tyres AND the engine. Watch Peter Windsors latest YouTube analysis for some interesting perspectives about that.
Worst team: Alpha Tauri, again if you put possibilities, expectations vs achievements. They should be at least in front of Mercedes. I think their drivers are talented but badly managed and stimulated by… I don’t know.
Best overtake: Max on Sainz, after the start. SO determining for the race.
Worst overtake: Perez on Sainz. Yeah, problem with his engine. But it looked awful.
Best moment: Max vs Charles late race dice.
Worst moment: Lando being not smart for once.
Best thing about the Miami circuit: That chicane with the dip that all the F1 drivers hated.
Worst thing about the Miami circuit: That longest straight between the walls. Nightmarish.
Best thing about the race: Max and Red Bull managing of the race, superb, tense stuff that of course is going to diminished.
Worst thing about the race: All the things I fast forwarded past,

And the race in a sentence: It is not always the fastest car that wins.

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#60 William Hunt

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 19:27

A good but not amazing race that was let down by some of the worst TV direction I've ever seen.

 

Hey you at least got to see some boats on fake water



#61 William Hunt

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Posted 09 May 2022 - 19:35

Agreed. Piastri is a bolter, worried Lawson will end up in the same bind. But in a grid with Strolls and Lafitis, I don't see Mick as being even close to the worst/egregious backmarker. And if Renault want Piastri so bad, they have two seats. 

 

Frankly I'd love to see some teams paid by the FIA to hold open seats for wildcard drivers with the chops, so the reigning F2 champ can get some seat time, or a special guest (ala Loeb) or a local hero (Dixon? Van Gisbergen? McLaughlin?) could get a look in at some events. 

Sadly the current teams have a vested interest in the pie being slicked as fewer ways as possible, so we're more likely to see three car teams before we see more new ground-up outfits  :well:

 

You're not seriously suggesting that Stroll is as bad as Latifi or that Mick is better as Stroll? Not saying Stroll is a great driver but he is decent. Also there is no indication that Mick is or has been better as Stroll. The way I see it as the Mick will become of the same level as Stroll with more experience. That is a driver who is often invisible, makes driving errors now and then but also has a great race sporadically / a couple of times per year. Anyone who thinks Mick will be good enough to drive for Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes is delusional. He could develop in a decent midfield driver but not a top driver like Leclerc or Norris. Imho Mick & Lance are quite similar in talent. But both are for sure significantly better as Latifi. Both also got in to F1 because of who their dad is. Both also always had the best equipment in their junior days and an unfair advantage in F3. They never had to fight for anything or experienced financial difficulties to advance their racing carreer: on the contrary.


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#62 Dan333SP

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Posted 10 May 2022 - 14:21

You're not seriously suggesting that Stroll is as bad as Latifi or that Mick is better as Stroll? Not saying Stroll is a great driver but he is decent. Also there is no indication that Mick is or has been better as Stroll. The way I see it as the Mick will become of the same level as Stroll with more experience. That is a driver who is often invisible, makes driving errors now and then but also has a great race sporadically / a couple of times per year. Anyone who thinks Mick will be good enough to drive for Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes is delusional. He could develop in a decent midfield driver but not a top driver like Leclerc or Norris. Imho Mick & Lance are quite similar in talent. But both are for sure significantly better as Latifi. Both also got in to F1 because of who their dad is. Both also always had the best equipment in their junior days and an unfair advantage in F3. They never had to fight for anything or experienced financial difficulties to advance their racing carreer: on the contrary.

 

All good points. Mick is a whole heck of a lot more likeable than Lance, though, and seems like a genuinely humble guy despite his roots. Certainly makes it easier to root for him, but it is a shame he really doesn't seem to have a future at a top team. 



#63 tifosi

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Posted 10 May 2022 - 17:24

 No idea where to put this but just read that The Miami F1 race had a larger viewership for < 50 than the NASCAR Darlington race the same day.



#64 HeadFirst

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 16:12

 No idea where to put this but just read that The Miami F1 race had a larger viewership for < 50 than the NASCAR Darlington race the same day.

 

Not sure why they choose under 50. Never see that age as a reference point.