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[ConsiderAndGo]

Beginning of the European leg

 

 

Circuit

 

 

Tyres

 

 

2021 Qualifying

 

 

 

2021 Race Result

 

[monolulu]

Off to Barcelona tomorrow! Really looking forward to this, think Lewis will need my support!

[KWSN - DSM]

Rain?

[Casey]

Rain?

In Spain .....

[Heyli]

Rain?

Probably not.

 

https://www.gpfans.c...ather-forecast/

[Anja]

On paper this track should suit Ferrari better, right? A good response to Red Bull's recent form would be very welcome right around now. 

Edited by Anja, 18 May 2022 - 14:44.

[HeadFirst]

Probably not.

 

https://www.gpfans.c...ather-forecast/

 

The track isn't on the plain, is it?

[Blackjack1967]

Weather Update:

 

Is Fu****g Hot. Since 10-15 days ago we have temps that should belong to late June/early July

 

Lets Go for the 26th consecutive dry race in Barcelona!!

 

 

Just to compare, last wet races in different GP:

Australian: 2010
Imola: 2022
Monaco: 2016
Canadian: 2011
British: 2016
French: 1999
Hungarian: 2021
Belgian: 2021 cough cough
Italian: 2008
Singapore: 2017
Japanese: 2014
USA: 2015 (thx Bleu)
Russian: 2021
Turkish: 2021
Brazilian: 2016

Spanish: 1996

Ok...Austrian: 1978 (but there was a dead gap between 1987-1997)

I fact we had 5 wet races in the Spanish GP in the last 70 years: 1972 and 74 at Jarama and 1991, 92 and 96 in Barcelona
 

Edited by Blackjack1967, 19 May 2022 - 18:29.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Blimey yeah, early 30's degrees c this weekend. Scorchio.

 

2 stopper for sure.

[SophieB]

Beginning of the European leg

 

 

 

 Ha, When this happened, I remember thinking ‘well, this is going to keep me busy for a while.’ Amazing incident.

 

Enjoy Barcelona and that fantastic statue of a fat horse in the airport, all those who are going for the race weekend.

[eoin]

On paper this track should suit Ferrari better, right? A good response to Red Bull's recent form would be very welcome right around now.

Not unless they can dial out some of the understeer that they seem to have. They will really struggle with the front tires if they can't.

[SophieB]

New podium ahoy.

 

@Circuitcat-eng

Hey baby!!! 🤩🤩🤩

Here comes the new podium of the Circuit! 😊😊

[Cliff]

New podium ahoy.

 

@Circuitcat-eng

Hey baby!!!

Here comes the new podium of the Circuit!

 

1995 architecture called, they want their podium back 

[SophieB]

I like that it has to have safety fences to stop giddy drivers falling off the hairpin turns.

[Timorous]

In Spain .....

Falls mostly on the plaine.

[Brian60]

Rain?

I can say after enduring 8 weeks of intermittent rain, heavy and light showers/thunderstorms. The summer heatwave has finally arrived in Spain this week. Anyone travelling for the race weekend should pack plenty of suncream!

[PayasYouRace]

I like that it has to have safety fences to stop giddy drivers falling off the hairpin turns.

I’m disappointed that they’re not allowed into the turn 3 and turn 12 areas.

 

“Sorry lads. We only paid for 8 m of fencing. You can’t have a fence round the whole thing.”

[aportinga]

The Merc story is pretty cool this season IMO. Miami was a totally new circuit and leveled the playing field a bit. Now we're off to a classic track that all the teams have a lot of data on. It should be very interesting how Merc performs.

 

I think Lewis will do well. He'll beat GR and finish 3rd or 2nd but on the podium.

 

If Sainz stuffs it this weekend - there may be talks sprouting up on his future.

 

If Latifi stuffs it he may as well walk home at this point.

 

Always interesting too see the Aston and Alpine drivers compete against each other - so I am looking forward to that.

 

Maybe Verstappen and LeClerc will not play so nice and we'll have an issue on the track?

 

Should be a great weekend!

[LolaB0860]

It's usually one of the less interesting races in general, however it is still the ultimate event for Upgrade War. Maybe next year it'll be more evenly shared between Imola and this one if the lamo sprint race for the Italian event is scrapped, but for now this is the place to upgrade yourself.

Edited by LolaB0860, 18 May 2022 - 16:55.

[KWSN - DSM]

New podium ahoy.

 

@Circuitcat-eng

Hey baby!!! 🤩🤩🤩

Here comes the new podium of the Circuit! 😊😊

 

 

Somehow makes me think 

 

[Ali623]

Excited to see what upgrades teams bring. Apparently the Aston Martin is expected to look noticeably different.

[vlado]

I think the results here should set the order for the next 6-7 races so looking forward to it! 

 

 

On paper this track should suit Ferrari better, right? A good response to Red Bull's recent form would be very welcome right around now. 

 

I don't buy the "on paper" predictions any more..

 

Imola was supposed to be a "Ferrari" track as well. 

[Alfisti]

This is the most important GP of the year IMHO. Lots of upgrades, on paper it suits ferrari etc.... very important sign of things to come. 

[thegamer23]

Get rid of the last corner chicane already!

Those cars should be able to follow each other more closely through the old final corner.

[Red5ive]

Gah - Barcelona followed by Monaco - the 2 worst tracks on the calendar.

 

With the seeming dilution of DRS effect on the new cars I would imagine overtaking will be even more scarce on Barca than previous years. Once Max and Charles drive off the front I expect it will be one huge DRS train for the rest of the field,

[ConsiderAndGo]

Gah - Barcelona followed by Monaco - the 2 worst tracks on the calendar.

With the seeming dilution of DRS effect on the new cars I would imagine overtaking will be even more scarce on Barca than previous years. Once Max and Charles drive off the front I expect it will be one huge DRS train for the rest of the field,

Paul Ricard called…

[LolaB0860]

Paul Ricard called…

Abu Dhabi beat the asses of all of them...

[ARTGP]

Paul Ricard called…

 

We had a cracker of a race there last year. But yeah, not exactly counting on lightning striking twice in the same place....

Edited by ARTGP, 18 May 2022 - 17:48.

[PayasYouRace]

Get rid of the last corner chicane already!

Those cars should be able to follow each other more closely through the old final corner.

It’s the runoff that’s the problem.

[TomNokoe]

Off to Barcelona tomorrow! Really looking forward to this, think Lewis will need my support!

Same!

I think TheFish is going, too?

I am taking a big HAMILTON flag with me

[SilverArrow31]

Now this is a real test of whether the racing has improved! They should be able to follow better through the long corners..

Edited by SilverArrow31, 18 May 2022 - 18:42.

[917k]

It’s the runoff that’s the problem.

We now have flat out corners with almost zero run off at Baku, Jedda and Miami etc.

 

The last two corners at Catalunya should be fine. 

[Tenmantaylor]

If Ferrari don't have a strong fightback against Max here this season is looking like Max's.

The Ferraris should be strong here but Red Bull have beaten them on high speed hot tracks (Miami)and low speed cold tracks (Imola) the last two times out. If they get beaten on medium speed for a 3rd successive race whatever the weather they need some serious upgrades to take the fight back.

Edited by Tenmantaylor, 18 May 2022 - 18:14.

[Jovanotti]

Didn't they think about removing that dreadful chicane? The new cars would be great through the fast final two corners.

[PayasYouRace]

We now have flat out corners with almost zero run off at Baku, Jedda and Miami etc.

 

The last two corners at Catalunya should be fine. 

 

It's not just about space but about angles too. Baku, Jedda and Miami do not have any curves that are as tight, but still fast, as the last one in Barcelona. It means the angle on approach is a lot sharper and it needs a larger runoff, but then the huge "Alonsomania" grandstand means the runoff on exit is limited. That's why the corner can't be used by F1 cars approaching at the speeds they would without the chicane.

 

Baku doesn't have a single corner that's similar to this. It has various flat out kinks where the wall is best at a small angle to the track. Jedda has a few similar corners, and they do have loads of runoff. Miami too, has loads of runoff on every major corner.

[Goron3]

Didn't they think about removing that dreadful chicane? The new cars would be great through the fast final two corners.

They've said they are looking to remove it for next year.

[Autodromo]

It's not just about space but about angles too. Baku, Jedda and Miami do not have any curves that are as tight, but still fast, as the last one in Barcelona. It means the angle on approach is a lot sharper and it needs a larger runoff, but then the huge "Alonsomania" grandstand means the runoff on exit is limited. That's why the corner can't be used by F1 cars approaching at the speeds they would without the chicane.

 

Baku doesn't have a single corner that's similar to this. It has various flat out kinks where the wall is best at a small angle to the track. Jedda has a few similar corners, and they do have loads of runoff. Miami too, has loads of runoff on every major corner.

When I first read that phrase I was thinking that it was a disease whereby Alonso's driving keeps you awake all night.....

[Sam1]

Really looking forward to this, think Lewis the luck of the gods to have any chance 

[balmybaldwin]

Blimey yeah, early 30's degrees c this weekend. Scorchio.

 

2 stopper for sure.

Interesting if we see the same reduction in porpoising due to the heat hat we saw in miami.

[ARTGP]

Interesting if we see the same reduction in porpoising due to the heat hat we saw in miami.

 

I thought that was because of the lower downforce specs that most people had, not the heat. 

[ARTGP]

Beginning of the European leg

 

 

 

The most interesting thing to happen at this circuit since Maldonado. lol. 

[Autodromo]

I thought that was because of the lower downforce specs that most people had, not the heat. 

Probably both; hot air is thinner (which will make it interesting to see when they race at higher elevation as well) so downforce would be different.

[r4mses]

Barcelona will be the test to see if following closely and overtaking - some call it racing - is in fact easier with 2022 regs.

[lewislorenzo]

I’m flying out today for the GP. Do you have to be in the paddock on Friday to meet the drivers for autographs etc?

[MikeTekRacing]

I’m flying out today for the GP. Do you have to be in the paddock on Friday to meet the drivers for autographs etc?

In miami the autograph session was sat morning before fp3

[lewislorenzo]

In miami the autograph session was sat morning before fp3

Thanks. Do you know what area this is usually in? Fan zone?

[MikeTekRacing]

Thanks. Do you know what area this is usually in? Fan zone?

It was close to the paddock but in the general public area. You need to ask local organizers

[Bleu]

Weather Update:

 

Is Fu****g Hot. Since 10-15 days ago we have temps that should belong to late June/early July

 

Lets Go for the 26th consecutive dry race in Barcelona!!

 

 

Just to compare, last wet races in different GP:

Australian: 2010
Imola: 2022
Monaco: 2016
Canadian: 2011
British: 2016
French: 1999
Hungarian: 2021
Belgian: 2021 cough cough
Italian: 2008
Singapore: 2017
Japanese: 2014
USA: 2003
Russian: 2021
Turkish: 2021
Brazilian: 2016

Spanish: 1996

Ok...Austrian: 1978 (but there was a dead gap between 1987-1997)

I fact we had 5 wet races in the Spanish GP in the last 70 years: 1972 and 74 at Jarama and 1991, 92 and 96 in Barcelona
 

 

Austin was wet in 2015.

[IrvTheSwerve]

It's not just about space but about angles too. Baku, Jedda and Miami do not have any curves that are as tight, but still fast, as the last one in Barcelona. It means the angle on approach is a lot sharper and it needs a larger runoff, but then the huge "Alonsomania" grandstand means the runoff on exit is limited. That's why the corner can't be used by F1 cars approaching at the speeds they would without the chicane.

 

Baku doesn't have a single corner that's similar to this. It has various flat out kinks where the wall is best at a small angle to the track. Jedda has a few similar corners, and they do have loads of runoff. Miami too, has loads of runoff on every major corner.

 

I don't know why they don't just extend the run-off outwards on the final corner at Catalunya...there's only an access road and small forest beyond it (there is a train track beyond that but it looks far enough away). I've driven through there and it does seem like plenty of space.

 

Obviously money may be a stumbling block and I'm not sure what the laws are re: the trees. Access road could easily be moved further outwards and towards the railway line (again, not sure what the laws are there re: road proximity to train tracks).

 

I suspect that the awful chicane was a cheaper and easier fix, sadly. It really does ruin the flow of the circuit, which is actually a pretty cool track which I think has been marred by the amount of testing that is done there (granted it has decreased during modern F1).

 

I'd honestly say it's possibly the most frustrating, 'Mickey Mouse' corner on the whole calendar.

[sheSgoTthElooK]

I'm on fire for Barcelona

 

...even though it's really none of my fav tracks. I believe the heat outta there will be good for Mercedes. Time to get a podium finish!

 

Lots of fun to those attending, especially the Lewis and Mercedes weirdos ❤️

Edited by sheSgoTthElooK, 19 May 2022 - 08:03.